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Reality 05-10-2011 05:12 PM

Sux OP.. but it's not the first 3.7l engine to go boom in Canada.
Sounds like you have a good rapport with the Service Manager, which is Key in this situation. You should have no problems with warranty, because the Dealership will bill Nissan Canada, full-pop for labor to replace the motor.
-I went through 2 Rev-up, motors with warranty replacement.. that's how I know..:shakes head:

If you can take a positive from this situation.. If you have plans to go FI, you can ask them to install a new clutch+flywheel for you, at no charge.. since the motor is already out, they won't care!:tiphat:
-Again, I know this through experience.

GL!

roplusbee 05-10-2011 07:15 PM

WOW! That is some carnage right there dude.............'

I am glad that the dealer is on your side on this one. you are making me wnat to check my oil everyday............

Staples 05-10-2011 07:32 PM

I'm sorry man, but at least they said "oil consumption." That's really good news. Sounds like they'll take care of ya.

SPOHN 05-10-2011 07:34 PM

How does Nissan determine what is over excessive oil consumption?

jran76 05-10-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1102256)
How does Nissan determine what is over excessive oil consumption?

I don't remember the exact test, but they check it at 500-1000 mile intervals or similar after they do an oil change, and if it uses over 1-2 quarts it is considered excessive. Their definition of excessive is a lot more than yours probably would be. I just remember that, and that they had to do the testing/checks over a period of time/miles. That is usually followed up with a compression test, and possibly engine replacement....

SPOHN 05-10-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jran76 (Post 1102281)
I don't remember the exact test, but they check it at 500-1000 mile intervals or similar after they do an oil change, and if it uses over 1-2 quarts it is considered excessive. Their definition of excessive is a lot more than yours probably would be. I just remember that, and that they had to do the testing/checks over a period of time/miles. That is usually followed up with a compression test, and possibly engine replacement....

I can agree with that. My 350 did about half a quart every 2500 miles. I believe my 370 is at about 1/4 a quart every 2000. But those are some hard miles. I don't baby this puppy.

WShade 05-10-2011 07:57 PM

http://www.the370z.com/370z-technica...level-low.html

jran76 05-10-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 1102295)

Thanks. I couldn't remember the exact amount and I guess it is not listed. I do remember it worked out to something like 1 quart every 1000-2000 miles. Mine does about 1/4 to 1/3 quart every 1000 miles which seems to be the going rate. My older G and Z were less than this (neither burned much at all, but both were VQ35DE's non-revup).

JTTZR 05-10-2011 08:36 PM

Scary stuff. Just ran into the garage to check my oil level.

jaycz 05-10-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JTTZR (Post 1102410)
Scary stuff. Just ran into the garage to check my oil level.

Me too!:icon18:

SPOHN 05-10-2011 09:03 PM

Check the coolant also. LOL

11Thumper 05-10-2011 09:19 PM

Hope this works out for you. Sounds like the dealer is helping you and not fighting it. I'm glad to hear that.

I have doubts that the crank pulley mod would cause this, but remember you're messing with how the engine was designed. The new pulley could (I mean it's possible, not absolute!) cause internal engine vibrations that might lead to cracking of critical components. Harmonics do play a role in engine longevity.

Best of luck to you! :hello:

Black370 05-10-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1096358)
I don't think your car would have leaned out that bad from your mods. I've seen the Stillen G3s cause the car to lean a little, but not enough to warrant detonation, at least not to the point of the engine going kaboom.

Were you able to look under the car at all? It could be a hole in the block, oil pan, or your oil filter came loose from not correctly tightening. You also said you were low on oil, did you do your own oil change and use a new copper gasket and make sure the drain plug was properly tightened?

Good luck.

What??? Do the G3s present a problem? I'm not going to need a tune am I?

Prosport Gauges 05-10-2011 09:39 PM

when i saw your mods and it said pulley! i instantly thought oh no. Heard to many horror stories with them.

jran76 05-10-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Black370 (Post 1102554)
What??? Do the G3s present a problem? I'm not going to need a tune am I?

If all you have are G3's, you are fine. By themselves, they are not going to affect A/F much. If you have full bolt-ons (test pipes more than anything else with other mods), you should consider it. None of the above should lean your car out to the point you would have serious detonation, but your mods would be much more effective with a tune.

Westwood 05-11-2011 12:08 AM

Thats the problem i rarely checked the oil level! you dont expect a brand new car to suck it like a 20 dolla hooker. Anyway ive learned my lesson!!! basically we gotta check the oil level every month cuz they took out the damn oil pressure gauge. That gauge was my best friend in my 350z.

11Thumper 05-11-2011 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Westwood (Post 1102815)
Thats the problem i rarely checked the oil level! you dont expect a brand new car to suck it like a 20 dolla hooker. Anyway ive learned my lesson!!! basically we gotta check the oil level every month cuz they took out the damn oil pressure gauge. That gauge was my best friend in my 350z.

Very true, but you need to check every week for the first 10k miles on any car you buy. It's up to you to determine the oil usage baseline.

Oil pressure would not indicate low oil level. A Corolla will run forever with no oil maintenance but you can't expect a 332hp sports car to do the same thing.

If I could find a $20 hooker my life would be much better! :tup:

Black370 05-11-2011 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jran76 (Post 1102639)
If all you have are G3's, you are fine. By themselves, they are not going to affect A/F much. If you have full bolt-ons (test pipes more than anything else with other mods), you should consider it. None of the above should lean your car out to the point you would have serious detonation, but your mods would be much more effective with a tune.

Ok, all I have is G3's and a CBE so I assume I'll be ok then. Thanks for the info. :tup:

sucasa 05-11-2011 07:31 AM

For 2009-2010 owners,

Check your VIN against the TSB. There are specific VINs impacted by this issue. I spoke to my dealer, and they will advise you when you go in for service, that the engine falls in the range. So, it's up to the dealer and yourself to do some due diligence.

TBSS2008 05-11-2011 10:28 AM

Sorry to hear about your Z. My 09 370z motor started going bad at 40k miles. It developed what sounded like a Lifter Tick due to oil consumption. It only consumed 1qt every 3-4k miles which some would say is not that bad but still enough to cause the motor to fail. Got a new (2011) short block installed under warranty after breaking the new short block in I started to see the same oil consumption 1qt every 4,000 miles.

Decided to trade it in for the Corvette Grand Sport.

I think a LS2 powered 370z would be awesome!

Reality 05-11-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TBSS2008 (Post 1103263)
Sorry to hear about your Z. My 09 370z motor started going bad at 40k miles. It developed what sounded like a Lifter Tick due to oil consumption. It only consumed 1qt every 3-4k miles which some would say is not that bad but still enough to cause the motor to fail. Got a new (2011) short block installed under warranty after breaking the new short block in I started to see the same oil consumption 1qt every 4,000 miles.

Decided to trade it in for the Corvette Grand Sport.

I think a LS2 powered 370z would be awesome!

Dam! I had been holding out for a 2011 z34, too!!!:shakes head:

Westwood 05-12-2011 12:14 AM

TBS2008 i dont mind checking the oil every week end or so but i shouldn't of trusted that its a new car and its (suppose) to be perfect in a way to not burn oil like a CIVIC. i learned my lesson thats for sure! still waiting for my dealer. hope they give me the good news tomorrow.

JTTZR 05-12-2011 05:02 AM

Hmmm, these things are still rare events, though. I would argue that Westwood was extremely unlucky. Now it's up to Nissan to deliver and make up to you.

But I would not go as far as to discredit the actual engine for its lack of durability - that isn't justified at this point.

Westwood 05-12-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JTTZR (Post 1105613)
Hmmm, these things are still rare events, though. I would argue that Westwood was extremely unlucky. Now it's up to Nissan to deliver and make up to you.

But I would not go as far as to discredit the actual engine for its lack of durability - that isn't justified at this point.

To be honest im a lil disappointed, my 350z had 120km when i sold her and she's still running strong! Yes you gotta check the oil more often but you expect that from an older sports car. Anyway i love my Z and will b more careful with the new engine. Besides my dealer and this thread nobody in my city knows my engine is blown and will not brag about it thats for sure.

Westwood 05-12-2011 07:46 PM

Good news im getting a new engine! the bad new is its back ordered they dont have none in Montreal or Toronto... DAMN!!! they have a rush on the order but im sure its no Z for another 2 weeks :(

Baer383 05-12-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Westwood (Post 1107423)
Good news im getting a new engine! the bad new is its back ordered they dont have none in Montreal or Toronto... DAMN!!! they have a rush on the order but im sure its no Z for another 2 weeks :(

A whole new engine or just a short block.

SPOHN 05-12-2011 07:54 PM

Awesome! It will probably be more than 2 weeks anyways. Are they going to put your mods back on your new motor? So you should get a all new warrenty with the new motor? Or does it work that way?

SPOHN 05-12-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1107436)
A whole new engine or just a short block.

I hope it's a new one. I'd hate to have just a new short block when the other blew up. It had to cause some damage to the heads. It's one thing if it was only oil consumption and the motor didn't let go.

TreeSemdyZee 05-12-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1102945)
Very true, but you need to check every week for the first 10k miles on any car you buy. It's up to you to determine the oil usage baseline.

Oil pressure would not indicate low oil level. A Corolla will run forever with no oil maintenance but you can't expect a 332hp sports car to do the same thing.

If I could find a $20 hooker my life would be much better! :tup:

Oil pressure gauge will indicate low oil. No oil no pressure.
Years ago my dad had a '64 Mercedes that was drinking oil (1qt/50 miles). I didn't know this and was driving around one evening and everytime I would accelerate, the gauge would drop to nothing. I put two quarts in and still didn't show anything on the dipstick. :icon14:

1slow370 05-13-2011 03:21 AM

when my motor went(no oil consumption noticed here at any time) it took over a month nissan f'n blows with backorders.

JTTZR 05-13-2011 08:58 AM

Fantastic news. Congratulations! 2 weeks seem a small issue vs no car at all. Glad to hear they were reasonable.

LafitteZ 05-13-2011 09:31 AM

I know the feeling bro. I blew almost half the block and half of the tranny bell houseing off mine. All over an 2 injectors being double o-ringed on the closest two cylinders to the firewall. Caused oil to not reach the cylinders well. 9 lbs of boost didnt help either. Nissan warrentied everything thank god.

Westwood 05-13-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1107436)
A whole new engine or just a short block.

whole engine! so thats the good part about waiting!!!

Westwood 05-13-2011 10:51 AM

Yeah i know Nissan are slow with back orders at lease its early in the season ill be able to enjoy the summer.

90 ST 05-13-2011 11:42 AM

Wow, Glad everything is going to work out for you.

wilsonp 05-13-2011 04:22 PM

I was going to say maybe their plan to use engines from Tennessee would help you, but it doesn't appear to make our engine. OTOH, the Japan Nissan plant is operational again, but won't be in full production until June.

gr8-wrx 05-13-2011 10:51 PM

Cool, sounds like things will be ok.

Westwood 05-14-2011 10:12 AM

yeah everything should be ok and hoping i get my baby back in June!

TeamMancusoSW 05-29-2011 09:30 AM

Hey Westwood, did you get your car back yet? I blew my motor last night. Same thing as yours I'm sure. My car was consuming oil also so I'm not surprised it let go. Just hope my claim goes smooth, I get a long block, and my tech knows what he is doing.

red6spd 05-29-2011 09:51 AM

Good to hear everything worked out. I check my oil everytime I drive it (once or twice a week) So far I only had to add a squirt of oil hear and there but the worry of low oil is always on my mind, I think an Oil Pressure gauge will be in my future just for added peice of mind.


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