Hayden / Napa / Summit oil cooler kit. Anyone?

Unclemeaty

I think Im gonna try this kit out. I found out that Napa will price match Summit since I'm within about 50 miles from the main Summit store. The only things I'm going to change are the hose clamps, and I'm going to try replacing the brass barb 3/8 NPT fitting to something steel.

RockStarKick

Just FYI, the hose barb fittings if paired with the correct ID hose are very secure. We incorporate those into a lot of assemblies at work and trying to get
the hose off after it's installed correctly is a real pain. We usually end up just
cutting a slit in the hose to be able to pull it off..

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Trips

I would suggest to 1st support our Vendors before looking elsewhere. Napa is not paying to advertise here! I hope the OP understands.
Thank You.

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gaveup

Napa also isn't overcharging for a kit we could put together ourselves for less than $200.

I understand supporting the vendors of this site and how it helps us all, but I feel sometimes vendors know this and charge stupid amounts of money because they can. Because they know a fool and his money are easily separated.

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RedBullRR

^ It would be nice if our Vendors sold setups in stages. So you can go bigger later on when it's needed but already have the hardware there.

Trips

They already do, Stillen offers a 19 row, and a 23 row, And GTM offers a 25 row, and comp version 34 row.
These have been tested and use quality cores and custom hoses. Thats one of the reasons they are pricey but well worth the $$

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SPOHN

That doesn't even make since. Triple's already cleared up one part. But why would you go bigger later. Just get the right size the first time. It wouldn't be an issue.

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Trips

Go Big or Go Home

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RedBullRR

Since or Sense? The prices these oil coolers are start at 500. For someone who has less then 3K on the car and has been told numerous times of oil heat being an issue in the summer. I just need a basic setup. I would have been happy with the setup the 350Z came with. While this doesn't make sense or since to you, it does to me.

SPOHN

Sorry for the honest spelling mistake. Sorry it bothers you so much. If you need a basic setup that's fine. I respect that. But you stated that you wanted to see stages of these kits (which they have) in case you wanted to go bigger later. You can go bigger now with no issues and not have to purchase another later.

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RedBullRR

I really was just teasing about the spelling error man. I'm not a spell Check Grammar Check Nazi. If we were talking in person you would probably bust out laughing. I was...

I'm not really sure what kind of setup I will need for the summer. I purchased the car in the late fall and its been sitting pretty much till recently. I'm not sure why they didn't just come with the same sandwich plate the 350Z came with. Most likely I'll end up with the first stage Stillen kit, but it is nice to see others trying something cheaper for an added benefit.

SPOHN

10-4

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1slow370

well if fun on twisty backroads on hot days is your thing it is better to get the smaller cooler so your oil will reach temperature for regular driving, the larger cooler are best for cars that see track use and need the extra cooling or turbo setups.

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Unclemeaty

I went ahead and took a shot at trying this cooler. Napa in my area matched a price printout from SummitRacing.com so it was a pretty good deal for a local sale. I ended up also grabbing some wider hose clamps at the time because the kit includes clamps which are particularly small in size. I just used screw style clamps for this.

Install went well enough for a universal kit. I ended up not having to cut cut anything from the car at all, and routed the hose around supports and out of site; using zipties about every 6 inches. The cooler itself is securely tied directly to the radiator and condensor using the included special one-way zipties. The install looks very factory from the front of the car, and the cooler is right up against the condensor which makes it look clean. I should note at this point that the aftermarket coolers from our vendors usually place the oil coolers further in front than how I've installed this; meaning that my setup would be worse for heat disapation due to it possibly obsorbing heat from the condensor and radiator. Aftermarket coolers are closer to the bumper skin; similarly to our factory power steering coolers which is likely much better for cooling.

The two biggest note about installation is with the included 20mm adapter bolt from the kit, and also fitting the correct oil filter.

1. For whatever reason, the entire bolt mechanism is about 1/8 inch too long, which didnt allow the sandwitch plate to install securely. All I had to do was cut/machine about 1/8 of an inch off the nut/sleeve side of the adapter bolt and then the sandwitch plate could be tightened perfectly tight.

2. The oil filter was a bit of a concern at first, but after trying a few dozen in the napa isle I finally found a good fitting one which wasnt overly huge. I cant really post the number of the filter I bought, because they actually had three filters on the shelf all with the same number, but one of them was actually smaller in diameter! When looking to get the right filter, make sure the filter has a 20mm thread and not overly long. The adapter plate -REQUIRES- a filter which is larger in diameter than stock for a properly maited surface. Without this, you will spring some high-pressure leakes. I bought both filters that fit and will just have to keep this in mind when shopping for one in the future.

I have my worries and concerns about the absolute length of life of the included rubber hose. Although it is rated for 300psi, I really would not put 100% trust into that. In the future I may speculate purchasing about 8 feet of -8 AN hose, some good T-Bolt clamps, and fittings to attach the hose to 3/8 NTP at the plate.

The outcome is pretty good thus far. Atlanta weather was pretty hot this weekend, at ~80 peak. Crusing around I saw oil temperatures fluctuate between 190-200, whereas before I'm pretty sure I would have seen 220+. Merging swiftly onto the highway saw temerature of 205, but then ~5 miles up the road the temperature dropped back to 195.

The oil will still hit 220 degrees; if you drive really hard from stop light to stop light after about ~3 lights or ~10 hard pulls to redline in 1st/2nd/3rd gear. That being said I'd imagine most coolers would suffer from this, as the lack of airflow is a sure temperature killer. I might go buy a small cooler fan and see how she goes.

I do have an IR temperature gun, which always caught the cooler at about ~170 degrees.

Recap:

-Maximum temerature seen with Napa cooler: 220 w/o long term airflow (195 average)
-1/2 inch hose (-8 AN) could use some slightly better hose but its OK as it is
-Slice 1/8 inch off the adaptor plate bolt for proper fitment
-Oil filter needs careful size consideration (Possibly a manual effort)
-System may need/like a small electric fan to aid in faster cool-off

Final note:
I think this sytem is fine for daily driving use or short term spirted driving like Autocross. I'll have to get back with the outcome of a mountain run, but I'd say for almost sure that this kit would not be the right choice for turbo charging and track usage.

ChrisSlicks

Be careful that you left enough slack in the hoses where they mate to the adapter plate. We've seen a few failures from hoses pulling free from the adapter plate presumably due to engine twist.

If you mount the oil cooler in front of the radiator you can take advantage of the A/C mode kicking on the extra cooling fan and drawing air through the radiator and your oil cooler.

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