Yep, You know what they say. It never runs so good until just before it blows up!

So true...so true...

Can someone with a stock car take it to the dealer and complain about high temps please? have them fix it.

I think someone did this already. From what I recall, the dealer looked it over, changed the oil and sent him away.

The 370Z officially goes on sale here in Australia from tomorrow (1st May). I must say this oil issue has caused me to hesitate on purchasing the car. I will keep reading this thread with much interest.

Australia will be the real test, it gets f'n hot and there are lots of roads on which to open it up. Unfortunately it is heading into Winter for most of the country but it will still but hot and dry up north.

Taking the suggestion from this thread I called Nissan customer affairs at 1.800.647.7261 this Tuesday. I talked with Jennifer Irwin, extension 41622, and voiced my concern about the high oil temperature issue. I also told her I was thinking about cancelling my 370Z order due in July because of the very hot summers we get in Texas. She open up file #6479687. I got a call back from her this morning. According to her supervisor, Nissan is aware of the problem and that their engineering is currently working on an oil cooler kit that is to be available in two to three weeks. Of course doubting this I asked if she was sure and she said that it was a fact and she had been authorized to tell me about the kit.

We shall see.....

I've heard that the Nismo kit is being ramped up for production but I am dubious about the 2-3 week time frame.

Did she say if this cooling unit would be installed under warranty?

I did not ask this obvious question....:icon14:

Hopefully Nissan will recall the car to be fitted with the oil coolers. If not I guess it'll be more money thrown into the pit!:tup:

I had a manual 370 for a couple months, and the oil temps went as high as 250-ish. I tgraded it in for an auto, and the highest I've seen is 200. Wonder what the difference is.

Matt

I've spoken with another support person at that number and she knew nothing. She just told me to take it to my dealer. When I told her about the quote above and Jennifer Irwin, she was taken aback. Apparently Jennifer Irwin is one of their 'top support personnel'. The representative I was talking to changed gears from saying "go take your car in" to "uh, please call back periodically for updates on the situation."

I've placed a message with Jennifer regarding the warranty coverage question. I'll post a message here as soon as I get a reply.

One important note, the representative I spoke with said that as more people call in and complain, the issue will be noticed and addressed more quickly. SO GET ON THE PHONE!!!

do you mind posting the phone number?

I got it from a post above. Here is it again: 1.800.647.7261

Still nothing back from Ms. Irwin, but her message says she'll reply within 24 hrs.

Sent a long email to Nissan they just called me back from the email and told me to take it to the dealer. I explained that the only way this is going to get fixed if Nissan steps up to the plate and adds oil cooling system to our high performance cars that we bought from them also explained my 5.6 L Titan and my 3.5 L M-35 does not overheat the oil.

So lets keep slamming them with emails and phone calls and maybe our voice will be heard !and we can all get the FACTORY OIL COOLERS needed to make are cars run COOL and don't overheat and blow engines:stirthepot:

Fingers crossed on this one - but it sounds like good news, as long as it's part of the standard warranty - any news yet?

I talked with folks at this number as well.. they are just $8/hr ppl working a call center... they are sub-contracted by nissan and their primary purpose is to screen in bound calls/inquiries, not resolve issues.

Nissan reads this board... this is the place to get your voice heard.

In addition, re-posting coordinates if you want to write them.

nissan north america inc consumer affairs
po 685003
franklin, tn 37068
nnaconsumeraffairs@nissan-usa.com

Finally, as mentioned previously, we need to work the press... call them

About time, lets see how they handle it though..

I did this as well, and refused to take mine to the dealer. I also made sure I was transferred to Ms. Irwin after creating my own case number, and left her a message as well.

COME ON PEOPLE, LET'S DO THIS!!

(And don't forget to make sure they understand you want the oil cooler ordered and installed FOR FREE under warranty or as part of a recall!!)

Have you guys seen this thread yet?

http://www.the370z.com/vq37vhr/4090-...l-coolers.html

$780.... Phffftt.. I guess that's why they're called stealerships.

^^like i said in the other thread, I want them to call me to have them put on that oil cooler. im not paying for something that should have come from the factory!

Hello from Florida.
Temperature today was 86. I am still breaking the car, in so am keeping the revs below 4K.
Oil temperarature gauge hit 260 with moderate speed on a quiet stretch of road.
I am calling 800-647-7261 right now. I want an oil cooler!

This forum is great. You guys kept me from wasting money on a worthless NISMO radiator cap and even though I have a set of Berk HFCs in the garage with an Invidia cat back and Status-Elite intake on the way, the car will stay stock until Nissan gets the engine heat under control.

Thanks!

$780!!!! FOR THAT?! No...

Sorry, but Nissan should have included the oil cooler in the car to begin with. It's a $100 part in cost. It wouldn't have hurt them to add it.

I just drove my car down to GA and back (~3 hours each way) and most of the time it sat at 220, there and back, in about 85*F weather.

However, when I got into the city I kept the car more in the powerband (between 3k and 5k RPM) for more immediate power (take no prisoners city driving, it's crazy in Charlotte). After about 5 minutes of this my oil was hitting 250. Luckily I was driving right past the Nissan dealer and had them document this overheating. They were clueless of course, saying that it was a bad sensor and they had seen it before. Suuuure...

So I can cruise for hours in 6th gear at 220*F, but as soon as I change gears and run at a higher RPM things start to overheat quickly. This definitely jives with the bubbling oil theory stated earlier.

New England driver so still cool outside, normally oil in low 200's, but noticed immediately after short period aggressive driving oil temp very quickly jumps up 20-30 degree's in just a couple minutes- may be a problem come summer- other than that all good

http://www.the370z.com/vq37vhr/4090-...l-coolers.html

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$780!!!! FOR THAT?! No... Sorry, but Nissan should have included the oil cooler in the car to begin with. It's a $100 part in cost. It wouldn't have hurt them to add it.

Not quite $100. The photo in the link above looks like a series 6 25 row Setrab. That's about $225. The fittings appear to be AN10's. A decent swivel and reusable AN10 90 degree runs about $25 each. Add the sandwich plate adapter, the hoses, the Setrab adapter plates and labor for hose assembly to the above.
I do agree that Nissan should have included it with the car. I would have paid an extra $500 for the cooler if they had it as an option without blinking.

BTW, Stillen's kit is really looking like a pretty good deal!

just past the breakin now im done granny shifting at 3k and back to my normal shifting at 4k-5k and my itch to always redline and go (not slow-lol)
tonight i saw 240 for the first time
it got me thinking i really need to bump my oil cooler up my list to buy

nissan needs to get to this and get a fix

*crosses fingers**

Here's the latest data from our oil temp survey thread (here http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...html#post66299)... thanks to everyone that has taken it so far!

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u.../oilsurvey.png

I went to town up and down the halls of STILLEN after everyone up to and including Steve Millen to keep the cost of this kit as low as was possible..

And while a bigger cooler can be built, obviously, this is in our opinion more than enough to handle virtually all driving needs for the 370Z, up to and including track use. It was built to spec to give maximum cooling at the lowest cost possible, utilizing a blend of super quality components like the SETRAB cooler and Goodrich stainless lines, down to the custom brackets, PS cooler relocation hardware, etc.

It's nice to see the guys with the STILLEN cooler seeing the benefits after testing and hard use.. and I would anticipate additional feedback from guys soon, as I know a number are embarking on trips to the track soon..

Got my Stillen kit installed today ! track day Sunday ! :)

In addition to the kit, I think we will all benefit from some additional time on motor and maybe switching to a more efficient motor oil

Just to make sure there's no confusion, the oil cooler pictured in that article is not the upcoming Nismo cooler. They explicitly state that in the article.

That's the prices at retail cost. But when you're a manufacturer, you can cut the prices by nearly 3/4. For example, good DVI cables for video sell for about 50-70 bucks, but the retail cost is around $3.00!

If Nissan manufacturered their own oil coolers, the prices on them would have been astoundingly lower.

It was 88 to 90 degrees yesterday and I saw a steady 230 degrees in oil temp just cruising around town.. this seems ludacris, but I also don't know what temps are considered dangerous and which temps are in the safe zone.

Jay

It's not really dangerous until you are continuously riding near or above 260. At that point there is a risk to bearings.

230 isn't bad itself, but it is when you consider that temp was while cruising. Once you step the RPM's up the oil temp is going to go up with it.

Same here, I'm in Charleston and the temps and humidity are not too far off from Jax. I am still in break-in. I am reasonably certain that once I begin pushing the RPMs as the car was meant to be driven, in our weather, temps will be far too high to be safe and allow longevity to the engine.

John

Crash,

It would be nice if it were that simple. But to be honest I don't see how you could price a Setrab cooler at 75% off the already discounted $225. That would indicated a cost of around $56. You couldn't buy the raw materials and stamp the plates for that amount of money.

For grins, call a BMW parts department and price a cooler for a 335i. It will be a rude awakening. Or just go online and add up the parts. Don't forget to add in a tube of Neosporin. If you have never put together AN fittings and SS hose your fingers are going to hate you.

Have had the car for two days now, not pushing it (have shifted at 5k twice only from 2-3), and my temps have not passed 220 yet, thankfully. I am still under 200 miles so it will be a few weeks before I get her opened up, but in Houston it has been getting humid and warmer lately so if I start seeing this creep up during the break in period with me shifting <4k, I will be putting in my call.

what about this little guy? Only $120.

B&M 70270 - B&M SuperCooler Oil Coolers

I don't know what core that is, could be a great one, could be crappy. The Setrab cores that the Stillen and Nissan Motorsports kits are using are a solid, well-proven design though. Also, that kit looks like it uses plain rubber hose. It will "work", but personally I wouldn't trust a plain rubber hose for something as critical as oil cooler lines. If they burst, or a cheap hose-clamp connection leaks or breaks loose, or something rubs on them and cuts them, or even wears a weak spot in it (leading to a burst)... it takes a very very short window of time to destroy your engine once your oil starts dumping on the ground from such a failure. Good quality hoses (and attention paid to the details of routing and protecting them) are a must for an oil cooler.

In a somewhat related incident from my past, I once had a transmission cooler on a TH400 auto tranny on an 81 Firebird that was run up to the front with rubber hoses like that. A few thousand miles after install, when I was pretty confident it was holding up well, I was on a long highway cruise in the middle of summer. Running down a highway between towns with no exit or service station in sight, one of the hoses blew out. I heard it and immediately shut the car down onto the shoulder and turned it off, but it wasn't fast enough to save anything.

2 Hours on the roadside waiting for a tow truck, a *long* tow back to the nearest large town, and refilled the fluid, but the tranny was dead. Had to do a complete rebuild on it. :shakes head:

Moral of the story: don't skimp out on hoses and connections for critical fluids.