Avi, gratz on making it out of the basement and into positive rep territory.

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Guys, it seems to me that avitech is trying to make a positive contribution after an admittedly lackluster start to his membership on this forum. Human nature being what it is, I understand the urge to just pile on him whenever he posts something. But maybe we should try to give him a break? I mean, if he's trying to turn a new leaf, we could have a little generosity of spirit and meet him halfway by giving him a second chance. Just a thought.

r u srs...

after he calls members trolls...

honestly woild you feel the same way if he called you a troll...:icon14:

Well, maybe not any... But probably not very many. :tup:

No, I probably wouldn't. But I don't think he was unprovoked either, and that's why I'm saying let's try to meet him halfway. Let's look at what happened. After I posted Nissan's official position, he made a post expressing his relief that Nissan would be 'taking some action'. Modshack said what the heck are you talking about, Nissan isn't paying for anything, and avitech clarified that he wasn't trying to say that Nissan is paying for anything -- only that they've provided a part number, and it is for that which he is grateful. Okay, everything's constructive and civil to this point. No name calling, no insults. But then Ricky Bobby comes along and says 'Hey do you even have a Z? Aren't you the guy who won't go over 80? You don't need an oil cooler!' (I'm paraphrasing.) That's when it goes downhill, with Antennahead poking fun by giving him the "Mr. < 80" name. So then avitech gets defensive and stands up for himself by calling him a troll. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with him calling Antennahead a troll. I'm just trying to recognize that he (avitech) was trying to behave when someone dredged up his past posts to make fun of him. This is what I mean by cutting him some slack. Has he said some dumb crap in the past? Sure. But let's leave the past in the past. Let's not dredge it up every time he tries to start over and post something civil in a thread.

But hey, take everything I'm saying with a grain of salt, cuz I'm loaded up on hydrocodone today after my surgery yesterday. ;)

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:eek: thats why your so damn happy :shakes head:

i should have known...vicodins got ya all in the holiday spirits eh :icon17:

just becareful the vicodin farts will play hell on ya and stink ya out of your own chair :icon14:

While I would agree with your post, it's comments like this " Once again. There is nothing wrong with the original design" ........ when he doesn't even own the car, that make people shake their head :shakes head: Which college of auto engineering did he graduate from?

:tup: I hope all went well with, and after, the surgery :tiphat:

Well thank you so much for seeing things with an unbiased point of view. I believe Antennahead is still holding a grudge because of my comments I said earlier about his/her hometown. In any case if he/she is listening. It must of sounded worse than it was. I was not putting down the "South" if you will. As a matter of fact I happen to appreciate the South a great deal because it's a nice contrast to California. Atlanta is known to have the best residential housing in the country if not all of the Americas thanks to it's generous attitude toward land use. I have been there. I have seen the South. I was merely making a point about what I have seen in Charleston in particular during one of my journeys over there. I noticed that it had a 3 or 5 story parking garage without a single elevator and all the handicap spaces were at the ground level. When I said these things I wasn't being hypercritical about the south, I was merely being descriptive in order to show to Antennaehead that I have actually been to his hometown.

For example if I were to say that I had a Red Apple. Notice I didn't use any negative adjectives in order to describe the item? It was just pure descriptive.

If I had offended anyone in this whole newsgroup then you have my sincere apologies. Upsetting and or insulting anyone is not and never was my intention.

It's just that wen I hear about other people breaking traffic laws and doing things on the public access roads that are unsafe for the general public at large then I tend to want to encourage safe driving practices.

If you want to drive faster than 80, sure you can. You can do so all day if you want. All I ask is you just do it the legal way by going to a closed race track or by driving in a dry lake bed where it is safe and there are no cars, people, or animals in the way. Aside from that, if you want to travel at higher speeds to get from point A to point B then it's better to try the Autobahn with no speed restrictions. Or better yet, learn how to fly a single engine aircraft.

But driving >100mph on any limited access highway in North America is both illegal and highly not advised or encouraged. Unless of course that stretch of highway is closed down just for racing.

I'm just worried for myself and my friends who have to share the road with speeders who don't respect life.

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It came across as very condescending. Charleston has actually won the most friendly city in America so many times, that Conde Nast retired us from the competition. The reason the handicapped parking spaces are on the ground level is to make it easier for a handicapped person to manuver. The top level does not have elevator service on some of the older garages, that were built before certain code restrictions applied. By increasing the number of handicapped spaces on the first level however, we were making it easier for a handicapped person to park. I believe there are more than enough to pass code taking into account that the top level has no elevator service.

I do not favor excessive speed on public highways. That said, we have stretches of interstate in the south with a posted limit of 75MPH. People regularly drive close to 85 MPH on them. Assuming the vehicle is in good mechanical condition and tires are fine, there is little danger in that, assuming no racing is going on.

WOW! I'm gonna go top out, be back later:tiphat:

I was offended by his insults of Charleston and I haven't even lived there since "77. :)

What'd he say about Charleston? Why I oughtta.....:shakes head:

On topic???

Why is this thread even still open...I mean really, what is there to say about the "oil temp issue" that hasn't been said 100 times over at this point?

I totally agree, and wish Ak would Lock it!
I took a stab at it and posted a lock pic to send
a signal, and it was taken down. lol

It’s sunny & 65’F today in Connecticut. I’ll bet I can get my Z’s oil temp up to around 220 in the Litchfield County hills!

"assuming no racing is going on". I like that.

As for there being little danger at 85mph. You are absolutely right. Under certain conditions it is perfectly safe. But until Americans can push for higher speed limits to be posted and better drivers training; some cop is gonna write as many tickets as he/she can in a lifetime.

As for now. Driving even 1 mph above the posted speed limit is a ticket-able offense. Plus you are sharing the road with a lot of incompetent drivers with cars in poor mechanical condition with roads that could use better signage among other improvements.

was at 145-155 for awhile last nite oil temp was at 240, outside temp 40 degrees 5k on the car

I forgot to add……I drive it like a Tiger Woods on a NY/Vegas Hostess!

I would not disagree with that point at all. I only take exception with those that don't realize that different climates, driving styles, AND conditions can affect the temps. For those in colder climates that don't experience any higher temps I tip my hat to you :tiphat: I have stated many times that in the summer here, when the air temp is 100 degrees, the ambient temps on the pavement can be 115. As others have also stated, lack of airflow contributes to the oil temperature rise as well. My drive home from work must be the perfect storm lol, I get a nice open drive and some spirited driving (winding out the gears), followed by gridlock and no airflow. In the aforementioned summer air temps, I will hit 250 to 260 oil temps. I have never achieved limp mode. I am not screaming at Nissan to buy me an oil cooler, nor am I whining, just stating the facts. I contributed this for information purposes mostly, as again, I am not whining at Nissan. I may add a cooler in the spring or early summer, as I am not sure how I feel about running 260 daily for a couple of months. I do know that the car doesn't feel as "peppy" in the butt dyno at 250/260 :p Anyway, no bitching here, just the facts. I would never let this stop me from owning this fine automobile, I still love it and recommend it to anyone wanting a great sports car at a reasonable price :tup:

John

Might that be Edgar Allen Poe in your avatar good man .............. "nevermore saith the raven"........... I think I saw you on Gold Bug Island just the other day :p

Dammit I was driving just south of Litchfield today!:hello:

One of these days I'll see another 370Z on the road. One of these days. :icon14:

I'm with you, John. 260 is too high. I saw 240 in traffic the other day. It was 56 outside. Come spring, the oil cooler gets installed, Mocal using the Modshack DIY, which is the same brand I installed on a Ford Fiesta I used to race, back when the Earth was cooling...

Anything over about 240 and you start to see the beginnings of viscosity breakdown, or thermal breakdown, or whatever the f you call it :icon14:. Heat is never good.

One good thing that happened to mine and a few others, once it breaks in some and you get a few miles on it, in cooler weather it won't top out past about 230, even after spirited driving and traffic inhibiting airflow. Once we got out of all that extreme summer heat we get here for about two months, I was back to 220 cruising and 230 max. But I agree, I would feel better about oil breakdown and engine life, as well as better performance with a cooler :iagree:

I'd like to close this thread with the OFFICIAL response from Nissan that I received few months ago.
I currently have 12,500 miles on my Z and they are street driven miles. From cold 30 degrees weather to intense summer temperature of 110+ degrees Fahrenheit -- I could never bring my temp up over 240 (my highest oil temp in the hottest weather). Basically, if you're going to drive your 370z in the street or do quick AUTOX (30 seconds to <5 min) or drag race, you WILL NOT need an oil cooler. If you plan on tracking the Z(long road course), you will need an oil cooler. Also, putting some good synthetic motor oil (i.e. REDLINE, AMSOIL, Royal Purple etc) will keep the oil temp cool as well.

Thanks

AK