up-hill starts in stop-go traffic

nismo 1234 · 10-02-2010, 12:19 AM

i live in bc... hills everywhere. and idiot drivers always drive up so close. so everyitme before i stop at a hill or someone is driving towards me, i just roll back a bit engage clutch and roll back a bit than engage the clutch again. the driver behind wil get scared and stay away

fritz · 10-02-2010, 04:43 PM

All those driving experts! This FIA International "A" licence holder (ex) did AOK in that department, thanks.

Apparently folk can do the one-shot start anywhere (like at my garage too) but that's not the problem.

Electronics advice..throttle..was the polite request on the "Engine and Drivetrain Forum" for an "engine and drivetrain" solution. One lives in hope.

Regards to all,

Fritz

cossie1600 · 10-02-2010, 09:03 PM

Good for you, I can pay $4000 to get my racing license too. Without doing it, I can still drive my car up a hill without rolling backwards. WOOHOO

ROC1ROB · 10-03-2010, 07:48 AM

I'd be embarassed to ask the question in the first place!!

But it seems to me you need to get out there and do it, do it and do it again. The roll back close method usally works for people that follow too close, until you meet a guy like me that enjoys a game or two. I'll swap paint with you!!!!

drivin blind · 10-04-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

subaru comes with a feature called 'hill holder' its designed so you have a second or two to start moving forward on a hill without rolling backwards.

My STI came with this feature and can't be turned off! (08) To me, someone that's driven manual transmissions for over 40 years, I absolutley hate it! My .02 RP

Jeffblue · 10-04-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by drivin blind

My STI came with this feature and can't be turned off! (08) To me, someone that's driven manual transmissions for over 40 years, I absolutley hate it! My .02 RP

i feel like i wouldn't mind it in san fransisco. i'm used to driving stick by now, but i have to admit, on a really steep hill, when someone pulls really close up behind me, i definitely am paying more attention to how i start.

cossie1600 · 10-06-2010, 12:44 PM

Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

Jeffblue · 10-06-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

In many other countries, you have to take a road test on a manual transmission.

Push370zzz · 10-06-2010, 03:37 PM

just.....

clutch in, brake in, first gear, rotate heel over to gas, tap, let out clutch to catch point

come on dudes, nobody else does this???

Lloydy · 10-06-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

Yes, in the UK certainly, the "Hill Start" is part of the driving test. The E Brake is used in this situation to hold the car while you let the clutch out, you fail if you roll back.

cossie1600 · 10-06-2010, 04:52 PM

i guess you dont need to pass that to get a fia license haha

Jeffblue · 10-06-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs

just.....

clutch in, brake in, first gear, rotate heel over to gas, tap, let out clutch to catch point

come on dudes, nobody else does this???

i do. i dont do that handbrake stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloydy

Yes, in the UK certainly, the "Hill Start" is part of the driving test. The E Brake is used in this situation to hold the car while you let the clutch out, you fail if you roll back.

you fail if you roll back at all? or just if you roll back a significant amount?

Lloydy · 10-06-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i do. i dont do that handbrake stuff

you fail if you roll back at all? or just if you roll back a significant amount?

Sorry should have said, you fail if you rollback a significant ammount, you have to show that you are in control of the car at all times, they could also fail you if you kept stalling the car while doing this too.
That said, I did mine 20 years ago, it may have changed now, but I doubt they made it any easier.

Jeffblue · 10-06-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lloydy

Sorry should have said, you fail if you rollback a significant ammount, you have to show that you are in control of the car at all times, they could also fail you if you kept stalling the car while doing this too.
That said, I did mine 20 years ago, it may have changed now, but I doubt they made it any easier.

i was gonna say, no rollback is pretty hard. there nothing really unsafe about 1-2 inches of rollback when starting on a steep hill.

Anarky · 11-02-2010, 12:02 AM

I agree with what many others have all ready said.Use the E brake and practice till you learn the car.I live in Utah and drive in the Mnts and they get up to 9000 + above sea level.Every manual I've ever owned was diff and took some time to get use to

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nismo 1234 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada BC Posts: 501 Drives: 10 370z M6 40th Rep Power: 15	i live in bc... hills everywhere. and idiot drivers always drive up so close. so everyitme before i stop at a hill or someone is driving towards me, i just roll back a bit engage clutch and roll back a bit than engage the clutch again. the driver behind wil get scared and stay away

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fritz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Andorre Posts: 90 Drives: 2010 370Z M6 Rep Power: 15	All those driving experts! This FIA International "A" licence holder (ex) did AOK in that department, thanks. Apparently folk can do the one-shot start anywhere (like at my garage too) but that's not the problem. Electronics advice..throttle..was the polite request on the "Engine and Drivetrain Forum" for an "engine and drivetrain" solution. One lives in hope. Regards to all, Fritz

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Good for you, I can pay $4000 to get my racing license too. Without doing it, I can still drive my car up a hill without rolling backwards. WOOHOO

10-03-2010, 07:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
ROC1ROB Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 201 Drives: 09 MT BS Base/Sports Rep Power: 14	I'd be embarassed to ask the question in the first place!! But it seems to me you need to get out there and do it, do it and do it again. The roll back close method usally works for people that follow too close, until you meet a guy like me that enjoys a game or two. I'll swap paint with you!!!!

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Don't most European countries require you to do an uphill start without the parking brakes in order to pass a driving test?

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	i guess you dont need to pass that to get a fia license haha

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Anarky Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 118 Drives: 2011 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 14	I agree with what many others have all ready said.Use the E brake and practice till you learn the car.I live in Utah and drive in the Mnts and they get up to 9000 + above sea level.Every manual I've ever owned was diff and took some time to get use to