Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

cjwsrt6 · 07-20-2015, 01:16 PM

so i need some opinions, I was going to take my 370z to the dealer last week but couldnt. I priced the aftermarket csc and have accepted ill have to pay.
my questions are, i work at a nissan dealer and they know i autocross, knowing they wont replace the csc at either dealer should i take it in and have it put on file just in case? if so would my dealer knowing i autocross be a bad idea? i dont want the little warranty i have to be viod due to that either way.. so what does everyone think i should do?

johnwiki · 07-20-2015, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Dude, you had to have paid a ton to have all those repairs done...

$1300 for the slave, $700 for the master, clutch line was free, $3200 for this last visit.

kbc749 · 07-20-2015, 03:55 PM

Hello,

I would like to add my name to the list of people who have had this issue.

I was driving back from Estes Park, Colorado to Lincoln, Nebraska and Near Ogalala, my clutch failed in exactly this manner. Clutch pedal went down, did not come back up. Fortunately I was given a push start and was able to limp to a walmart where I got some DOT3 brake fluid and filled the empty clutch fluid reservoir, and was able to pump the clutch back up to have pressure.

I got the clutch pumped back up and took off, thinking all I had was a small leak, having survived the long drive to Colorado and a little spirited driving in the mountain roads. But then 5 minutes later, when i went to try and change gears, I had lost all pressure again. When I went to check the fluid, I found it was still full. Meaning I was losing pressure inside the system, and leaking as well.

I was able to limp home by pumping up the pressure every time I needed to shift out of 6th until I made it to my house, roughly 300 miles later. Thank the car gods for a large gas tank.

Took it in today, and of course it's not covered under my powertrain warranty. (I just broke 41k). So I will be trying to get it covered but I'm not expecting success.

Thanks

KBC

Zbrah · 07-20-2015, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwiki

$1300 for the slave, $700 for the master, clutch line was free, $3200 for this last visit.

Doesn't this fall under the lemon law after three attempts to fix it?

SerialCoderer · 07-20-2015, 05:50 PM

So the dealer came back today and told me my flywheel and some other things pertaining to the clutch (I can't remember) is bad and it needs be replaced. I mentioned the CSC issue and he said he was aware of this issue that other Zs are having, but it is not the case with my car. The dealer said the cost was around $3k to fix.

I really do not want to spend that kind of money and it does not fix the problem.
How much have other people paid to have the aftermarket CSC replaced dealer/non-dealer work.

I am thinking if I get the flywheel and whatever other work the dealer recommends. I can also get the aftermarket CSC fixed as well. Otherwise I am going to sell this car. My 350z was more reliable than this car. SMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerialCoderer

I have been a victim of my clutch pedal losing all pressure and going down to the floor. This has happened to me twice now. The first time one dealer replaced my clutch fluid and with "Gtr fluid" and did some "clutch adjustments". That was supposed to fix the problem.
Three weeks later my clutch pedal is back on the floor. I have it at another dealer since my car broke down out of state. They fixed the problem the same way as the first dealer by bleeding the clutch fluid. I told them that was how my car was fixed the first time and I am scared it will happen again. They said they will look further at it and see if the they can find why this is happening. Can somebody give me some information on what they should look at specifically? If they can't find the issue, I think I will sell my Z.
I really do not want to but I need to be able to drive my car with confidence.

Chuck33079 · 07-20-2015, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerialCoderer

So the dealer came back today and told me my flywheel and some other things pertaining to the clutch (I can't remember) is bad and it needs be replaced. I mentioned the CSC issue and he said he was aware of this issue that other Zs are having, but it is not the case with my car. The dealer said the cost was around $3k to fix.

I really do not want to spend that kind of money and it does not fix the problem.
How much have other people paid to have the aftermarket CSC replaced dealer/non-dealer work.

I am thinking if I get the flywheel and whatever other work the dealer recommends. I can also get the aftermarket CSC fixed as well. Otherwise I am going to sell this car. My 350z was more reliable than this car. SMH

Stop going to the dealer? Go to a good local shop and have better aftermarket parts installed if you're footing the bill anyway? A good clutch/flywheel/csc should be around $1500 and I can't imagine it being more than 5-6 hours of labor to swap it out.

eastwest2300 · 07-20-2015, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwiki

$1300 for the slave, $700 for the master, clutch line was free, $3200 for this last visit.

dude, that is an absolute ripoff, the dealership should be ashamed... buncha azzholes.

eastwest2300 · 07-20-2015, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbc749

Hello,

I would like to add my name to the list of people who have had this issue.

I was driving back from Estes Park, Colorado to Lincoln, Nebraska and Near Ogalala, my clutch failed in exactly this manner. Clutch pedal went down, did not come back up. Fortunately I was given a push start and was able to limp to a walmart where I got some DOT3 brake fluid and filled the empty clutch fluid reservoir, and was able to pump the clutch back up to have pressure.

I got the clutch pumped back up and took off, thinking all I had was a small leak, having survived the long drive to Colorado and a little spirited driving in the mountain roads. But then 5 minutes later, when i went to try and change gears, I had lost all pressure again. When I went to check the fluid, I found it was still full. Meaning I was losing pressure inside the system, and leaking as well.

I was able to limp home by pumping up the pressure every time I needed to shift out of 6th until I made it to my house, roughly 300 miles later. Thank the car gods for a large gas tank.

Took it in today, and of course it's not covered under my powertrain warranty. (I just broke 41k). So I will be trying to get it covered but I'm not expecting success.

Thanks

KBC

Damn dude, I'm sorry bro.

eastwest2300 · 07-20-2015, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Stop going to the dealer? Go to a good local shop and have better aftermarket parts installed if you're footing the bill anyway? A good clutch/flywheel/csc should be around $1500 and I can't imagine it being more than 5-6 hours of labor to swap it out.

You can't say it any better than this.

Listen to this guy here.

johnwiki · 07-20-2015, 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=SerialCoderer;3262335]So the dealer came back today and told me my flywheel and some other things pertaining to the clutch (I can't remember) is bad and it needs be replaced. I mentioned the CSC issue and he said he was aware of this issue that other Zs are having, but it is not the case with my car. The dealer said the cost was around $3k to fix.

thats literally what I just replaced. 5 days and its still going strong.....for now.

SerialCoderer · 07-20-2015, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Stop going to the dealer? Go to a good local shop and have better aftermarket parts installed if you're footing the bill anyway? A good clutch/flywheel/csc should be around $1500 and I can't imagine it being more than 5-6 hours of labor to swap it out.

You are right! It is time I stop going to the dealer. I just need to find a reputable place now out in Jersey.

firulice · 07-20-2015, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerialCoderer

So the dealer came back today and told me my flywheel and some other things pertaining to the clutch (I can't remember) is bad and it needs be replaced. I mentioned the CSC issue and he said he was aware of this issue that other Zs are having, but it is not the case with my car. The dealer said the cost was around $3k to fix.

I really do not want to spend that kind of money and it does not fix the problem.
How much have other people paid to have the aftermarket CSC replaced dealer/non-dealer work.

I am thinking if I get the flywheel and whatever other work the dealer recommends. I can also get the aftermarket CSC fixed as well. Otherwise I am going to sell this car. My 350z was more reliable than this car. SMH

Tell the dealer to sit on their thumb and bounce.... go here. ..ZSpeed Performance Nissan Infinti Performance Parts and OEM
buy a set for 1300 and install at a shop for 5-600. You'll get a reliable setup and be good to go

MagmaRed370z · 07-20-2015, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice

Tell the dealer to sit on their thumb and bounce.... go here. ..ZSpeed Performance Nissan Infinti Performance Parts and OEM
buy a set for 1300 and install at a shop for 5-600. You'll get a reliable setup and be good to go

Zbrah · 07-20-2015, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjwsrt6

so i need some opinions, I was going to take my 370z to the dealer last week but couldnt. I priced the aftermarket csc and have accepted ill have to pay.
my questions are, i work at a nissan dealer and they know i autocross, knowing they wont replace the csc at either dealer should i take it in and have it put on file just in case? if so would my dealer knowing i autocross be a bad idea? i dont want the little warranty i have to be viod due to that either way.. so what does everyone think i should do?

If you're worry about warranty issue, I think it's a good idea to not let your dealer know you're involved in any type of aggressive driving, whether autox or on the back roads.

KoolKarmaJoe · 07-20-2015, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice

Tell the dealer to sit on their thumb and bounce.... go here. ..ZSpeed Performance Nissan Infinti Performance Parts and OEM
buy a set for 1300 and install at a shop for 5-600. You'll get a reliable setup and be good to go

Agree! ZSpeed is the way to go. I'm very pleased with my new setup.

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07-20-2015, 03:55 PM	#1053 (permalink)
kbc749 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 161 Drives: 2010 370z 6MT Rep Power: 10	Hello, I would like to add my name to the list of people who have had this issue. I was driving back from Estes Park, Colorado to Lincoln, Nebraska and Near Ogalala, my clutch failed in exactly this manner. Clutch pedal went down, did not come back up. Fortunately I was given a push start and was able to limp to a walmart where I got some DOT3 brake fluid and filled the empty clutch fluid reservoir, and was able to pump the clutch back up to have pressure. I got the clutch pumped back up and took off, thinking all I had was a small leak, having survived the long drive to Colorado and a little spirited driving in the mountain roads. But then 5 minutes later, when i went to try and change gears, I had lost all pressure again. When I went to check the fluid, I found it was still full. Meaning I was losing pressure inside the system, and leaking as well. I was able to limp home by pumping up the pressure every time I needed to shift out of 6th until I made it to my house, roughly 300 miles later. Thank the car gods for a large gas tank. Took it in today, and of course it's not covered under my powertrain warranty. (I just broke 41k). So I will be trying to get it covered but I'm not expecting success. Thanks KBC WI_Hedgehog likes this.

07-20-2015, 06:28 PM	#1060 (permalink)
johnwiki Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California Age: 32 Posts: 66 Drives: 2011 Gun Metallic Z Rep Power: 11	[QUOTE=SerialCoderer;3262335]So the dealer came back today and told me my flywheel and some other things pertaining to the clutch (I can't remember) is bad and it needs be replaced. I mentioned the CSC issue and he said he was aware of this issue that other Zs are having, but it is not the case with my car. The dealer said the cost was around $3k to fix. thats literally what I just replaced. 5 days and its still going strong.....for now. MagmaRed370z likes this. __________________ Mods: Z1 CAI, Fast Intentions HFC + Cat Back, 4.08 Gears + VLSD Swap, Southbend DxD Clutch+lightweight flywheel = 310 HP 285 ft/lbs

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07-20-2015, 01:16 PM	#1051 (permalink)
cjwsrt6 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 452 Drives: 2005 crossfire Srt6 Rep Power: 11	so i need some opinions, I was going to take my 370z to the dealer last week but couldnt. I priced the aftermarket csc and have accepted ill have to pay. my questions are, i work at a nissan dealer and they know i autocross, knowing they wont replace the csc at either dealer should i take it in and have it put on file just in case? if so would my dealer knowing i autocross be a bad idea? i dont want the little warranty i have to be viod due to that either way.. so what does everyone think i should do?