Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

ShutokuZ · 07-07-2015, 10:21 PM

Looks like the guy with the 16 CSC failure posted it on the Nissan FB page. And surprise surprise! Nissan comments back to contact a dealer.... Again, no s**t!

Anifaust · 07-08-2015, 12:51 AM

So I had the infamous clutch sink on Thursday night, July 2nd. Was taking a friend home and we got mildly spirited on the way (4-5k revs big whoop right?) Well apparently the car thought so cause after I pulled the pedal up with my foot and downshifted into second right before turning on her street less than 1/4 mile from the clutch drop I popped it into neutral to coast to her house which was 3 in from the main street.

Tranny locked into second yet my gearshifter was in neutral middle. It would push right side between the 5th/6th forks but wouldn't go left betwen 1st/2nd. I was completely locked out of any gear I attempted to choose. All the while if I started the car with the clutch depressed I could ease out and immediately knew I was in second due to how much rev/bog I had depending on gas pressure.

Note I drive a '09 6spd MT with roughly 47k and change on the OD. Never had issues with the CSC prior. Since I'm out of warranty and the stealership has screwed me in the past with the Steering lock stating I had to pay almost $1,600 to fix- yet I found this forum thankfully and fixed it myself with the 10A fuse pull only to find out a month after they recalled my model and wanted to replace it for free (of course I let them and let them firmly know my displeasure of fixing it myself by pulling the fuse- they still neglected to replace the 10A when I had the part replaced). I took it to a very well reviewed local transmission shop here in OKC.

Since it was hauled in on July 3rd and they couldn't get to it until "today"- July 7th I missed the holiday weekend with friends and family. Thanks Nissan.

It's thusfar cost me around $500 just to have the shop drop and pop the transmission. His best guess prior to opening it up was that I had a bent/broken fork or dislodged rod. I prepared myself for the worst, torn up internals, complete replacement etc. Come to find out the shops master tech's best advice was that since the clutch was in the full flux of CSC jenk that it just got out of sync and locked the tranny down. He said it was the cleanest he had ever opened up and could've used the fluid he drained from it as brand new in someone else's ride and sold it as brand new.

Note- I baby the hell out of my Z. I love her to death but god damnit Nissan get your **** together.

For those of you who have never seen the internals they are truly a work of art in my opinion. My pics seem to be too high rez for the website so here's a link to a public drive I have setup, note the burn gel with Lido for all my butthurt.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Xc&usp=sharing

firulice · 07-08-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anifaust

So I had the infamous clutch sink on Thursday night, July 2nd. Was taking a friend home and we got mildly spirited on the way (4-5k revs big whoop right?) Well apparently the car thought so cause after I pulled the pedal up with my foot and downshifted into second right before turning on her street less than 1/4 mile from the clutch drop I popped it into neutral to coast to her house which was 3 in from the main street.

Tranny locked into second yet my gearshifter was in neutral middle. It would push right side between the 5th/6th forks but wouldn't go left betwen 1st/2nd. I was completely locked out of any gear I attempted to choose. All the while if I started the car with the clutch depressed I could ease out and immediately knew I was in second due to how much rev/bog I had depending on gas pressure.

Note I drive a '09 6spd MT with roughly 47k and change on the OD. Never had issues with the CSC prior. Since I'm out of warranty and the stealership has screwed me in the past with the Steering lock stating I had to pay almost $1,600 to fix- yet I found this forum thankfully and fixed it myself with the 10A fuse pull only to find out a month after they recalled my model and wanted to replace it for free (of course I let them and let them firmly know my displeasure of fixing it myself by pulling the fuse- they still neglected to replace the 10A when I had the part replaced). I took it to a very well reviewed local transmission shop here in OKC.

Since it was hauled in on July 3rd and they couldn't get to it until "today"- July 7th I missed the holiday weekend with friends and family. Thanks Nissan.

It's thusfar cost me around $500 just to have the shop drop and pop the transmission. His best guess prior to opening it up was that I had a bent/broken fork or dislodged rod. I prepared myself for the worst, torn up internals, complete replacement etc. Come to find out the shops master tech's best advice was that since the clutch was in the full flux of CSC jenk that it just got out of sync and locked the tranny down. He said it was the cleanest he had ever opened up and could've used the fluid he drained from it as brand new in someone else's ride and sold it as brand new.

Note- I baby the hell out of my Z. I love her to death but god damnit Nissan get your **** together.

For those of you who have never seen the internals they are truly a work of art in my opinion. My pics seem to be too high rez for the website so here's a link to a public drive I have setup, note the burn gel with Lido for all my butthurt.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Xc&usp=sharing

Sucks man. So what now? Are putting an HD CSC in? anything else?

KoolKarmaJoe · 07-08-2015, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice

Sucks man. So what now? Are putting an HD CSC in? anything else?

Dam! I really luv Z's, but Nissan Corporate sucks! I would advise others against buying any Nissan

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MagmaRed370z · 07-08-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Dam! I really luv Z's, but Nissan Corporate sucks! I would advise others against buying any Nissan

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This really sucks big time. I wish I had lots of disposable income to hire lawyers, all kind of media including articles in the top 10 car magazines, TV, radio, newspapers and propaganda about this sh*t.

Sorry and rant over.

Anifaust · 07-08-2015, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice

Sucks man. So what now? Are putting an HD CSC in? anything else?

Yeah, gonna go ahead and replace the clutch and CSC. Still waiting on them to give me a quote on what they've done so far and parts they want to order. If I can find them cheaper he said do it. Gonna order the Zspeed tomorrow. He also has some neat heat-restraining kevlar wrap we're going to lock down around the pipes instead of buying the 40$ braided line for the CSC.

eastwest2300 · 07-09-2015, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anifaust

Yeah, gonna go ahead and replace the clutch and CSC. Still waiting on them to give me a quote on what they've done so far and parts they want to order. If I can find them cheaper he said do it. Gonna order the Zspeed tomorrow. He also has some neat heat-restraining kevlar wrap we're going to lock down around the pipes instead of buying the 40$ braided line for the CSC.

Im gonna order my fluids today... I have all the parts to upgrade the CSC/CMC, clutch & flywheel but no fluids.

KoolKarmaJoe · 07-09-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Im gonna order my fluids today... I have all the parts to upgrade the CSC/CMC, clutch & flywheel but no fluids.

Definitely upgrade fluids. Joe (ZSpeed) 100% correct with draining trans & replacing with MOTUL Gear Oil (74.00 = 4qts). Extremely pleased with kit & flywheel . A very noticeable improvement in performance. Much more responsive. Haven't really got on it too hard as ACT Clutch Kit recommends 300-500 mile break-in before racing.

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MagmaRed370z · 07-08-2015, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

Looks like the guy with the 16 CSC failure posted it on the Nissan FB page. And surprise surprise! Nissan comments back to contact a dealer.... Again, no s**t!

WOW, that is progress. Surprising. (Sarcasm)

KoolKarmaJoe · 07-08-2015, 02:57 PM

I just received another email from NISSAN, here it is:

7/8/2015

Case # ****6389
VIN # *************5337

Dear Mr. Joseph (****),

Thank you for contacting Nissan North America. We apologize for any inconvenience this situation may have caused you.

Please be advised that Proof of Ownership is required for Nissan North America to notifies the current owners of a vehicle affected by a campaign at the current address available in our systems also to maintain accurate records.

More information about campaign can be found on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) website Home | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

Case#****6389 has been created to document your inquiry. If you have any further questions or comments, feel free to call 1-800-647-7261 (Extension 457356) and reference your case number.

Thank you again for contacting us and allowing us the opportunity to be of assistance.

Sincerely,

Nissan

________________________
Cherielyn
Consumer Affairs Representative
Nissan North America, Inc.

07-08-2015, 12:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anifaust Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: OKC Posts: 17 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 12	So I had the infamous clutch sink on Thursday night, July 2nd. Was taking a friend home and we got mildly spirited on the way (4-5k revs big whoop right?) Well apparently the car thought so cause after I pulled the pedal up with my foot and downshifted into second right before turning on her street less than 1/4 mile from the clutch drop I popped it into neutral to coast to her house which was 3 in from the main street. Tranny locked into second yet my gearshifter was in neutral middle. It would push right side between the 5th/6th forks but wouldn't go left betwen 1st/2nd. I was completely locked out of any gear I attempted to choose. All the while if I started the car with the clutch depressed I could ease out and immediately knew I was in second due to how much rev/bog I had depending on gas pressure. Note I drive a '09 6spd MT with roughly 47k and change on the OD. Never had issues with the CSC prior. Since I'm out of warranty and the stealership has screwed me in the past with the Steering lock stating I had to pay almost $1,600 to fix- yet I found this forum thankfully and fixed it myself with the 10A fuse pull only to find out a month after they recalled my model and wanted to replace it for free (of course I let them and let them firmly know my displeasure of fixing it myself by pulling the fuse- they still neglected to replace the 10A when I had the part replaced). I took it to a very well reviewed local transmission shop here in OKC. Since it was hauled in on July 3rd and they couldn't get to it until "today"- July 7th I missed the holiday weekend with friends and family. Thanks Nissan. It's thusfar cost me around $500 just to have the shop drop and pop the transmission. His best guess prior to opening it up was that I had a bent/broken fork or dislodged rod. I prepared myself for the worst, torn up internals, complete replacement etc. Come to find out the shops master tech's best advice was that since the clutch was in the full flux of CSC jenk that it just got out of sync and locked the tranny down. He said it was the cleanest he had ever opened up and could've used the fluid he drained from it as brand new in someone else's ride and sold it as brand new. Note- I baby the hell out of my Z. I love her to death but god damnit Nissan get your **** together. For those of you who have never seen the internals they are truly a work of art in my opinion. My pics seem to be too high rez for the website so here's a link to a public drive I have setup, note the burn gel with Lido for all my butthurt. https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Xc&usp=sharing Last edited by Anifaust; 07-08-2015 at 02:41 AM.

07-08-2015, 02:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
KoolKarmaJoe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 417 Drives: 09' Nissan 370Z R M6 Rep Power: 11	I just received another email from NISSAN, here it is: 7/8/2015 Case # **6389 VIN # *********5337 Dear Mr. Joseph (), Thank you for contacting Nissan North America. We apologize for any inconvenience this situation may have caused you. Please be advised that Proof of Ownership is required for Nissan North America to notifies the current owners of a vehicle affected by a campaign at the current address available in our systems also to maintain accurate records. More information about campaign can be found on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) website Home \| National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) Case#**6389 has been created to document your inquiry. If you have any further questions or comments, feel free to call 1-800-647-7261 (Extension 457356) and reference your case number. Thank you again for contacting us and allowing us the opportunity to be of assistance. Sincerely, Nissan ________________________ Cherielyn Consumer Affairs Representative Nissan North America, Inc. __________________ "Joe" AAM True 3" Duals / Whiteline Bars & Rear Links / Tanabe Sustec Pro / Mishimoto Oil Cooler / Michelin Pilot SS ACT HD Pressure Plate / ACT Performance Disc / ACT Streetlite Flywheel / ZSpeed HD CSC on GTR Fluid.

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07-07-2015, 10:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShutokuZ Track Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 512 Drives: 2013 PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 13	Looks like the guy with the 16 CSC failure posted it on the Nissan FB page. And surprise surprise! Nissan comments back to contact a dealer.... Again, no s**t!