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More of an indication of air in the lines. Air might have entered through the csc by the seal but if the seal failed completely then the fluid would have

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Old 12-24-2013, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More of an indication of air in the lines. Air might have entered through the csc by the seal but if the seal failed completely then the fluid would have drained and you never would regain pressure
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VIN: BM554556
Purchase Date: Oct 2013
1st failure- Nov 30, 2013- final "STF" (Stick To Floor) 11/30/2013 @ 1:27PM CST
Occurrence Mileage: 37K Miles
Clutch Type: OEM
2nd Occurance: Just 45 days after Replacement of Slave Cylinder and fluid - Bell housing leaking also. 1/19/2014 HWY 635 - Dallas Near Addison and NDTollway

Update: ON the way back from old apartment in a last final trip, clutch dropped to the floor only 45 days after being fully replaced by Trophy Nissan in Dallas. To say I am pissed and livid is an understatement at the moment. To make matters worse, they still owe us parts from WE OWE when we bought the car. TOP off matters , on the last time we were in we found out the car was in for this same issue just a month earlier in which they said it had been fixed then also. SO that would make for time 1 prior to us buying the car (upon trade in as the Service manager told us), 11/30 the time we brought it in, making time number 2, and now time number 3 which is 1/19/2014. This is a Effing nightmare. Have MPP 6/100,000 coverage when we bought it, and it's still under the 5/60,000 Powertrain as of right now. SMH....WHAT THE F***.

Does anyone know if i can tell the dealership to order ZSpeed Performance parts and replace em with that? I don't think so, but i figured I would ask.

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Old 01-20-2014, 08:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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VIN: BM554556
Purchase Date: Oct 2013
1st failure- Nov 30, 2013- final "STF" (Stick To Floor) 11/30/2013 @ 1:27PM CST
Occurrence Mileage: 37K Miles
Clutch Type: OEM
2nd Occurance: Just 45 days after Replacement of Slave Cylinder and fluid - Bell housing leaking also. 1/19/2014 HWY 635 - Dallas Near Addison and NDTollway

Update: ON the way back from old apartment in a last final trip, clutch dropped to the floor only 45 days after being fully replaced by Trophy Nissan in Dallas. To say I am pissed and livid is an understatement at the moment. To make matters worse, they still owe us parts from WE OWE when we bought the car. TOP off matters , on the last time we were in we found out the car was in for this same issue just a month earlier in which they said it had been fixed then also. SO that would make for time 1 prior to us buying the car (upon trade in as the Service manager told us), 11/30 the time we brought it in, making time number 2, and now time number 3 which is 1/19/2014. This is a Effing nightmare. Have MPP 6/100,000 coverage when we bought it, and it's still under the 5/60,000 Powertrain as of right now. SMH....WHAT THE F***.

Does anyone know if i can tell the dealership to order ZSpeed Performance parts and replace em with that? I don't think so, but i figured I would ask.

Thanks for lending shoulders my Z family.
I would make sure they replace the clutch assy and flywheel this time. It must be what is causing this many failures of the stock slave, I mean yes the slave is junk, but normally last OK with the stock clutch unless something is wrong with the stock clutch assy.
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I would make sure they replace the clutch assy and flywheel this time. It must be what is causing this many failures of the stock slave, I mean yes the slave is junk, but normally last OK with the stock clutch unless something is wrong with the stock clutch assy.
Thanks for this, and after finally talking to our Service Manager and the director, I have told them to look at those in replacement, as well as having them contact your line of business for proper HD parts to rebuild instead of OEM garbage which was originally installed on the car. Crossing fingers right now. They have had the car for a week now, and are saying it will be no quicker than next thur or fri before we get it back.
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So I have basically read through this entire thread. I have a clutch issue but am able to pump it back up and there is no fluid loss. I have the ZSpeed CSC on the shelf. It looks like I will need to replace the Master Cylinder as well. I am really debating on replacing the entire clutch and flywheel and just be done with the whole thing. I have 46K on my '09 right now.

Another question: Is there a DIY for the CSC, other than what was written up on page 20 or so?
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No fluid loss=bad master, fluid loss =bad slave

DIY section here has a pretty good guide w lots of pics but not a sticky is towards top of first page.
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ive never heard of a dealer putting on none OEM parts for the tranny or hydrolic system. be cool if they do though!
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Highly doubt they would because if that part fails they are not liable for it.
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Highly doubt they would because if that part fails they are not liable for it.
Here's the kicker of that whole definition as was told to me in the last meeting we had. Since Nissan is aware of this issue, the CSC falls now under the base 3/36 warranty and so those which are outside this, Mine (38K) miles , and being rebuilt 2x already now, it falls to my Aftermarket MPP Warranty which i purchased with the car when i bought it. Thus now, allows them to buy and replace with any parts suitable and warrantable by the MPP company we have approval for. Correct in your statements if its' under their Nissan OEM 3/36 warranty then yes, OEM would be the only way they would go. However as I have been informed that its now not part of the 5/60K warranty powertrain (not sure how much I believe in that) but i got the phone call from MPP saying they would approve the repairs and rebuild. So we will see i guess. If they don't fix it correct this time and it goes out again, I'm going to another dealership.
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So is there s TSB or Recall on this?? =/
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So is there s TSB or Recall on this?? =/
There is a TSB as I had mine replaced with 1,200 miles on the car and the service manager told me as much. They couldn't replicate the issue but replaced it since there was a TSB. Not sure what the number is though but you can probably google it and find a list for everything for your year model.
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There is a TSB as I had mine replaced with 1,200 miles on the car and the service manager told me as much. They couldn't replicate the issue but replaced it since there was a TSB. Not sure what the number is though but you can probably google it and find a list for everything for your year model.
Can someone else please verify/confirm this as well? What does it cover? Just transmission oil?
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Bulletin NTB13-026A

2009 Nissan 370Z clutch assembly service bulletin (Bulletin NTB13-026A)



Bulletin Date: Apr. 10, 2013
Component: Clutch assembly.
Bulletin Summary: Nissan: clutch pedal does not return to rest position.
Vehicles covered in this TSB: • 2009 Nissan 370Z
• 2010 Nissan 370Z
• 2011 Nissan 370Z
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What's interesting in more information that I received lately from another Nissan source was that in the Powertrain warranty it's for Transmission - All fluid and mechanical working parts within the transmission. Which means since the clutch is on the outside of the transmission, it according to this source, falls in the 3/36 and not the 5/60 warranty. Got to love BS small writing. Either way it's covered under the TSB that is listed above :

NTB13-026A
Bulletin Date: Apr. 10, 2013
Component: Clutch assembly.
Bulletin Summary: Nissan: clutch pedal does not return to rest position.
Vehicles covered in this TSB: • 2009 Nissan 370Z
• 2010 Nissan 370Z
• 2011 Nissan 370Z
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What's interesting in more information that I received lately from another Nissan source was that in the Powertrain warranty it's for Transmission - All fluid and mechanical working parts within the transmission. Which means since the clutch is on the outside of the transmission, it according to this source, falls in the 3/36 and not the 5/60 warranty. Got to love BS small writing. Either way it's covered under the TSB that is listed above :

NTB13-026A
Bulletin Date: Apr. 10, 2013
Component: Clutch assembly.
Bulletin Summary: Nissan: clutch pedal does not return to rest position.
Vehicles covered in this TSB: • 2009 Nissan 370Z
• 2010 Nissan 370Z
• 2011 Nissan 370Z
OK, I just had this happen for the first time this weekend.

The 3/36 warranty just expired but, it's a Certified Pre-Owned so I still have the 7yr/100k warranty.

Should I be covered?
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