That's just aweful to have such a problem with so new of a vehicle.

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:eek: Let's see how Nissan will weasel their way out of this one...


This is what my clutch fluid looked like yesterday...there are bits of black debris sitting at the bottom of the reservoir. You can see my fluid level is about half way between Max and Min. Not sure where that fluid went...
http://www.the370z.com/members/zbrah...7438-image.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/zbrah...7437-image.jpg

I used a syringe bulb to suck out all of the dirt and fluid from the reservoir and then filled it up with new dot 3 brake fluid I picked up earlier in the day. After doing so my clutch pressure returned, there is still some slack in the pedal however, but that was already there since I removed the clutch pedal spring. I know I'm on borrowed time right now. I'm taking it into my shop this Saturday to check out, but most likely a new clutch kit will be going in very soon.

My clutch fluid looks like that at every oil change just about. I remove the old fluid from the MC and do quick gravity bleed on the system every 5-10k miles. I am running Dot4 also. In the summer I have to do it more often due to the heat of the cats. Nissan didn't rap the little metal line down at the bottom. It has some kind of rubber protector on it but it does not cover it all and does nothing for the heat.

Has anyone noticed a positive difference when using Nissan GTR BRAKE fluid? Or is it the same as any DOT 4

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Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158
2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605
3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000
4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????
5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500
6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412
7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????
8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500
9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000
10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140
11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000
12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600
13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000
14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????
15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000
16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300
17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000
18: Bking - ???? - ????
19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000
20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000
21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200
22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000
23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????
24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000
25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000
26: windex - ???? - ????
27: Neptune - 2009 - ????
28: afbunn - 2009 - ????
29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000
30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500
31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????
32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000
33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200
34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000
35: Simota1 - ???? - ????
36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000
37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)
38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000
39: luigi90210 - 2011 - ????
40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000
41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????
42: Zensation - ???? - ????
43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????
44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000
45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*
46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000
47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000
48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000
49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000
50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500
51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000
52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900
53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*
54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000
55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*
56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243
57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????
58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000
59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000
60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*
61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*
62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000
63: radensb - 2009 - ????
64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????
65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*
66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)
67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000
68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????
69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????
70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000
71: UXI - 2015 - 1,900
72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700
73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000
74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000
75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????
76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - ????
77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075
78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000
79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465


That took a long *** time to compile...

for EVERYONE that has experienced or even are concerned for yours to go out give Nissan North America a ring and tell the rep you're issues or concerns. 1-800-NISSAN-1

As I went through this entire thread making my list, Several people had good results by switching the fluid but then there are still quite a few that still had CSC failure further down the road. It seems like it's just a band aid.

I'm having a ZSpeed HD CSC installed as well as new CMC, with insulated CLUTCH line ; I was thinking of using the GTR BRAKE Fluid from now on . Do you thats a good idea or should I use a different brand of fluid?

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Dude this is amazing work!:bowdown:

Sucks that it is BS about a nissan part though :shakes head:

I don't recall anyone asking that question... But I believe Joe@Zspeed will help you out, He's chimed in on this thread several times.

Thank ya... Yeah it is, I thought there would be more. But there probably is that I didn't see or didn't chime in yet.

Won't hurt anything to use the GTR fluid, We have been using Motul RBF-600 with good results also.

You can add me to that list. Had mine go out in my 2010 Sport @ approx. 29K

Dealer put in the GTR fluid and that has held up for the last 6K or so.

And not everyone who owns a Z joined a forum either. I'm sure there are many more out there got screwed by the stealership and no where to turn for support.

That's true... Maybe should start a petition and try and get it to pass around on other forums and sites like autoblog or jalopnik... The G37's and newer 350Z's (i'm assuming G35's too) had/have this issue and in 2008 they actually did a recall for the 350Z to replace the clutch slave cylinder

Recall on slave cylinder - MY350Z.COM Forums

very nice work BamBamz

Any of you guys thought about going to your local news affiliate? I mean this is pretty serious, and here you have Nissan tap dancing, I say the hell with calling 1800 Nissan, let the news MAKE them do something about it.. Like chevrolet, and the air bag recall.

I was just over 2000 actually, BamBam.

Wonder how long before we have a 2016 up there.

Anyone on the 370z fb group? Please make a post and share the link to this thread to spread the word. The more attention we can get the better.

Great ide! We need to find someone with direct contact.

Yeah I already went down the corporate route when it happened. I did get the car back a day earlier than they originally told me but still lost Memorial Day weekend to a bottom feeder Kia Rio rental, but that was it. :\

Man, if you brought that list alone to the news, I garauntee they'd jump on that, a little bit of research on their part, they could find out if anyone was hurt/injured or died in direct cause of this defect.

Nissan would hate you for contacting the news, but you'd be doing a pretty noble thing for a sh1t ton of people.

Nissa can kiss my azz

looking at the bigger picture, i can assure you, if someone went to the news, the bad press alone will MAKE nissan act, bad press = lost sales (usually)

The trick is getting the press to take it up.

Highly recommend the Motul:tup:

When the dealer covered my CSC replacement (you can add me to the list 2010 G37 Coupe - 1200 miles on odometer) I brought them off the shelf synthetic dot 4 and had no issues with my replacement OEM CSC. It worked perfectly until 43k when I upgraded it for the turbo swap to one of Joe's HD CSC. Went Motul at that time, good stuff :tup:

That is what I did [I am just concerned now it hasn't failed yet (knock on wood)] Count me in in that list.

This is what I use also.

why wouldnt they, I mean, this is a serious issue that could potentially injur or kill someone.

370Z Clutch Slave Cylinder Complaint to NHTSA
 

I filed my CSC Failure complaint here: (easy, only took about 5 mins)

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml Conf. No. (ODI) 10726352

I know this has been said before, but if there's any chance of forcing Nissan to take responsibility for this problem then a lot of us are going to have to complain where it could do some good.

My symptoms were: Clutch pedal occasionally sticking to floor on a warm day with engine hot and running hard. It never did leak fluid and I could pop the clutch pedal back up easily with my toe. It would work normally after it cooled a bit.

Fix: Installed the Zspeed HD CSC improved slave cylinder (along with a whole new clutch 'n flywheel).

P.S. Thanks BamBam !

I guarantee there are many others who had issues that aren't even "on" forums. But if we raise enough noise & post in many other forums, when people decide to Google "350Z CLUTCH Problems" or "370Z CLUTCH Problems", our posts & forums will appear. Try it, Google anything about 370 Z and odds are you will be referred to this forum. What other Nissan vehicles use this same CSC? If there are any, reference them also so as to get more info out there on Nissan's cheap CSC. :mad:

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Well take a "page out of my play book". Like many who attend car meets/shows who have a sign displayed of mods/dyno runs of their car, I also intend to have a sign of CSC failure. I'm including complaints (emails) to Nissan I have sent with Nissan replies, pics of my Z being towed, its exhaust/transmission being taken out, copies of invoices showing costs(labor, Tow, parts). I will post this at every Nissan dealership car show/meet I attend as well as all " Z DAY" functions, and other such events. Then I will take photos of my vehicle being display this way at these events and post them online as well as forward them to Nissan.

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When do they 2016's get released? Estimate about a month after that.

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Oh no ,, a Kia RIO? Seriously? That is just Wrong on so many levels.

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I was in the market for a Sentra SE-R around that time but ended up getting the GXE (new high school grad at the time). I recall my decision being swayed based on the numerous transmission issues reported between 2003-2004. I should have extrapolated correctly and assumed that other models would be plagued by transmission/clutch/clutch assembly issues. Lesson learned.

Done. Everyone in this thread right now should fill one out. Thanks!

I didn't do an elimination kit, I had the entire clutch assembly replaced.

With my car, when the shop called Nissan they were told "when the TSB doesn't work we've started recommending replacing the entire clutch assembly." Cheap, lazy bastards...

That's why I think we should get this stuff out all over the social media outlets first. It's easier because the more attention we can drum up online the press are more inclined to talk about it.

Just put in my complaint on nhtsa. OID number 10730187 :tiphat:

Waiting my post to get approved then post it on Nissan's fb. Don't know how to use tweeters =\

C'mon folks. We need more!

I filled out the complaint. This takes 3 minutes. Please everybody do this and lets make NISSAN put a recall about this!

Confirmation number (ODI Number) is: 10730197

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