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Lug 07-27-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 646902)
True... the Z does have a modest increase in power per performance, but the Z can be made lighter in weight. Those modest gains then become more significant.

And besides that, the Z is a freakin looker. I love the GT500 and the new Stang, but the Z has that WHOA factor.

Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

Zsteve 07-27-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 647014)
Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

This is true, they should have changed the body of the stang to a small but noticeable degree to make it stand out as the new standard to beat, and not to look like the lesser power stangs. The current stang body style is so over done its lost its cool status.

TBSS2008 07-27-2010 03:15 PM

The Z is definitely a very nice looking car. I did the basic mods I/HFC/CBE and tune. The car is definitely faster and sounds better then before but still not Corvette territory. I spent about $2,500.00 for all the mods which includes the cost of installing the parts as well. I haven't been to the track since completing the mods but it should be good for high 12s.

I thought about FI but I am just going to enjoy what I have and buy a used Corvette LS3 Z51 6M in a few years when the Z has about 100k miles on it I am at 30k right now.

Now the Corvette responds very well to mods. I was actually cross shopping the 2009 C6 Z51 and the 370z Sport/Touring some times I think I should have coughed up the extra 5-6k for the C6. It's ridiculous how much HP they put out.

C6 Corvette Bolt-Ons - LS3 Performance Package Test - Corvette Fever Magazine
C6 LS3
Stock: 371whp 365wtq
Bolt ons (I/H/E/Tune): 431whp 412wtq +60hp +46tq

Zsteve 07-27-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TBSS2008 (Post 647169)
The Z is definitely a very nice looking car. I did the basic mods I/HFC/CBE and tune. The car is definitely faster and sounds better then before but still not Corvette territory. I spent about $2,500.00 for all the mods which includes the cost of installing the parts as well. I haven't been to the track since completing the mods but it should be good for high 12s.

I thought about FI but I am just going to enjoy what I have and buy a used Corvette LS3 Z51 6M in a few years when the Z has about 100k miles on it I am at 30k right now.

Now the Corvette responds very well to mods. I was actually cross shopping the 2009 C6 Z51 and the 370z Sport/Touring some times I think I should have coughed up the extra 5-6k for the C6. It's ridiculous how much HP they put out.

C6 Corvette Bolt-Ons - LS3 Performance Package Test - Corvette Fever Magazine
C6 LS3
Stock: 371whp 365wtq
Bolt ons (I/H/E/Tune): 431whp 412wtq +60hp +46tq

If the wife gets the new job she is trying for then I will be trading in the Z for a 2011 GS LT3 corvette. It looks nice and having 400+ hp and 400+ tq on a NA is awesome. Here in El paso I will have some pretty good open areas to feel the cars potential and there is a nice hilly twisty road that goes over the mountain to get to the other side of the city that will be a nice drive for it.

Wifey gets the new job I get the new car. Gotta love it.

WarmAndSCSI 07-27-2010 09:20 PM

Honestly, the 370Z is quick enough out the door for most people. The only mods we do will be ones that are fun to do. When I'm used to making or losing 30-50 WHP depending on a tune, 20-30 WHP just isn't worth the thousands of dollars it costs to achieve. This is definitely not a car you buy to go fast in a straight line. ****, if that's all you want, buy an SRT-4 and throw some slicks on it.

mrcardio 07-27-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 645157)
I had a Audi TT and a canned tune for it gave me 50 hp and 80 tq on a 2.0t 4 cyl. Add the downpipe and CBE and add another 20 or so hp/tq. I had over 300 tq on a fwd car.

Yeah with just an intake +20-25hp/tq the MS3 makes over 300ft-lbs of Torque, with mods you listed it's at like 360-380ft-lbs. Not exactly great with FWD though unless you're doing a 3rd gear roll-on.

TBSS2008 07-28-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 647666)
If the wife gets the new job she is trying for then I will be trading in the Z for a 2011 GS LT3 corvette. It looks nice and having 400+ hp and 400+ tq on a NA is awesome. Here in El paso I will have some pretty good open areas to feel the cars potential and there is a nice hilly twisty road that goes over the mountain to get to the other side of the city that will be a nice drive for it.

Wifey gets the new job I get the new car. Gotta love it.

I wish you and your wife the best of luck with the possible new job offer.

The Grand Sport is sick! I really like the wheels and the wide body look. Not to mention just a few mods brings that LS3 almost to Z06 hp. The C6 Z06 puts down about 443whp 412wtq (Z06 dyno numbers - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum) vs bolt on LS3 431whp 412tq pretty damn close for ALOT less money and still get the wide body looks!:tup:

But for the record I still love my Z. It's funny how quick you get use to power. I took a vacation recently and rented a Kia with a 1.6 4cyl for a week. When I got back from the trip and drove my Z again I thought did someone put a supercharger in this thing while I was gone, damn its fast. Few months go by and I am in here talking about a Corvette, never enough lol. :shakes head:

Zsteve 07-28-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TBSS2008 (Post 647994)
I wish you and your wife the best of luck with the possible new job offer.

The Grand Sport is sick! I really like the wheels and the wide body look. Not to mention just a few mods brings that LS3 almost to Z06 hp. The C6 Z06 puts down about 443whp 412wtq (Z06 dyno numbers - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum) vs bolt on LS3 431whp 412tq pretty damn close for ALOT less money and still get the wide body looks!:tup:

But for the record I still love my Z. It's funny how quick you get use to power. I took a vacation recently and rented a Kia with a 1.6 4cyl for a week. When I got back from the trip and drove my Z again I thought did someone put a supercharger in this thing while I was gone, damn its fast. Few months go by and I am in here talking about a Corvette, never enough lol. :shakes head:

Thanks, and yea I know what you mean about never having enough power once you get use to it. Thats one of the reasons Im going to the vette, would love a GTR but I dont think I can afford that yet. Still have a kid in college and another in the pocket still too.

TongMan 07-28-2010 09:53 AM

Once you got the Vette...you'll be wanting the GTR more...or maybe the ZR1...its a cycle of torture.

Vegitto-kun 07-28-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 647014)
Yep, the 'Stang is a great car now, but it will never turn heads like a 370z.

Over here people would cream their pants if they see a new mustang.

including me

TongMan 07-28-2010 10:05 AM

It's going to be funny to see Mustang owners buying those 5.0 emblems and sticking it onto their base Mustang...haha...

theDreamer 07-28-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 648126)
It's going to be funny to see Mustang owners buying those 5.0 emblems and sticking it onto their base Mustang...haha...

Huh? Base Mustangs, are you referring to V6 Mustangs?

Vegitto-kun 07-28-2010 10:42 AM

I want a mustang now after checking out the GT500 :roflpuke2:

jnaut 07-28-2010 10:54 AM

well, it is deff more expensive to modify these cars, but the increase is still there. Yes i am full of bolt-ons, and just had it tuned yesterday, i am 74 hp over stock. i put down 319 and on the same dyno stockers do 245. So the moral is u gotta pay to play, lol. not used to this have since i had a mustang and civic before , which we all know it dont get any cheaper than those cars for mods!!

Lug 07-28-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 648252)
I want a mustang now after checking out the GT500 :roflpuke2:

I imagine a GT500 sticker price would make you go :eek2: in Belgium!


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