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Old 07-19-2010, 02:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Every time you mention you're getting your tires rotated along with your oil changes, a kitten, somewhere, is dying.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ester oil is just a gimmick. Absolutely no need for it.
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Ester oil is just a gimmick. Absolutely no need for it.
Though I have switched from Ester to Full Synth I don't believe that the Ester is just a gimmick.

Ester oil has certain molecular characteristics absent in mineral and synth oils that:

1. Stays bonded better to the engine internals when the engine is started in very cold temperatures, paerticularlly the winter weather.

2. Maintains exacting tolerances between parts to a greater degree.

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Ok after my first oil change I was a bit shocked at the price and then the dealer told me about the special oil they have to use in the 370.
I use to have a 350 and that was never the case, so I bought a quart of this new and improved oil and had it analized by a friend who researhes oils and greases for the industry.
His words to me were there is nothing in the Nissan oil that is any different from Mobil 1.
Do I still use the NIssan oil yes because I don't want them to tell me I have voided the warranty but I do believe this is just another rip off
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Ok after my first oil change I was a bit shocked at the price and then the dealer told me about the special oil they have to use in the 370.
I use to have a 350 and that was never the case, so I bought a quart of this new and improved oil and had it analized by a friend who researhes oils and greases for the industry.
His words to me were there is nothing in the Nissan oil that is any different from Mobil 1.
Do I still use the NIssan oil yes because I don't want them to tell me I have voided the warranty but I do believe this is just another rip off
See... Esther is a gimmick. It's a waste of $.

Nissan cannot void your warranty if you don't use their voodoo grease.

Any name-brand off-the-shelf oil will be fine if you plan on following the "every 3750 miles" schedule.
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See... Esther is a gimmick. It's a waste of $.

Nissan cannot void your warranty if you don't use their voodoo grease.

Any name-brand off-the-shelf oil will be fine if you plan on following the "every 3750 miles" schedule.
Well.... it's your money (and engine... valve train to be specific).

As someone mentioned earlier... I'll be using oil with that spec. (Amsoil to name names).

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"His words to me were there is nothing in the Nissan oil that is any different from Mobil 1."

Your crack(head) oil expert said there is no difference between a synthetic oil and a dino oil?
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"His words to me were there is nothing in the Nissan oil that is any different from Mobil 1."

Your crack(head) oil expert said there is no difference between a synthetic oil and a dino oil?
From all of my research, it's yet to be proven that Nissan's retail-packaged Ester oil is not a synthetic oil. The filed patents all say that the additive package is designed for either synthetic or conventional. People are going off a few statements that only hint at the Nissan oil not being synthetic-based.

Until somebody actually analyzes a bottle of the stuff, it's all assumptions.
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They can't void your warranty because you don't use their Ester oil. So don't worry about that. In the user manual it even states that their Ester oil is only "recommended" and not required.
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I use Motul Power Racing 300v, I love it thus far. Even on a cold start the car settles in very fast, its ester based, and for at least the first run with Motul I got a great deal off a forum member. I think I'm going to keep using it, might as well go with the best.
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Default Valvoline vs. NEO

We have 2 2009 370's in our family which we purchased from 2 different dealers. One dealers service department uses NEO exclusively in one 370 while the other uses a Valvoline oil in all their oil changes. The Z using NEO is much quieter at startup while the car running Valvoline ocassionally has a tapping noise at startup and on hard acceleration you ocassionally hear what sounds like ticking between 4-5K rpms. While this is not a controlled study I personally am convinced the NEO is better for the Z. On the next oil change I will convert the Valvoline car to NEO and see if this makes a difference.
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We have 2 2009 370's in our family which we purchased from 2 different dealers. One dealers service department uses NEO exclusively in one 370 while the other uses a Valvoline oil in all their oil changes. The Z using NEO is much quieter at startup while the car running Valvoline ocassionally has a tapping noise at startup and on hard acceleration you ocassionally hear what sounds like ticking between 4-5K rpms. While this is not a controlled study I personally am convinced the NEO is better for the Z. On the next oil change I will convert the Valvoline car to NEO and see if this makes a difference.
When comparing conventional oils, I'm sure this is true, but a true Group IV PAO oil is definitely better for your engine overall than Nissan Ester Oil unless it is also a full synthetic.
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