Worlds first vq37 nismo swaped bmw e30

K2e2vin · 02-22-2022, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by backman_66

What would be a good cheap truck to swap a VQ37VHR into? I'm gonna do it when I win the crypto lottery. Honestly though I'd love to hear some suggestions. I think it would be super cool to throw one in an old ranger or S10 or whatever, especially if THE BULL sells full wiring kits

Old Datsun/Nissan hardbody would be cool. Besides this E30, they've already put them in a S30, Miata, and S2000. The DEs have been swapped into even more chassis, including a Sunny truck.

THE BULL · 06-09-2022, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

It won't do staged/ecu-controlled nitrous, at least on a switch. Where the stock ECU limits you is when you need more I/O(stock ECU is just repurposed existing I/Os, so still limited in that aspect).

You're right, inputs and outputs are limited however take some time to study the diagram and you'll find it's 128 pins. Only exotic ECMs can take on the job and ALL of them require the use of the OEM VVEL unit. It would take a Motec PDM 30 or something along those lines to handle all of the inputs. which is why a flashed OEM ecm is the best it gets cost wise

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Originally Posted by backman_66

What would be a good cheap truck to swap a VQ37VHR into? I'm gonna do it when I win the crypto lottery. Honestly though I'd love to hear some suggestions. I think it would be super cool to throw one in an old ranger or S10 or whatever, especially if THE BULL sells full wiring kits

Cheap american 4 cyl truck. Ideally you'd want a truck that companies make DE swap kits on since the mounts would work. The rest is gathering all the copper spaghetti needed.

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Originally Posted by Spooler

You don't need it for high hp cars but there is a big benefit to it. The only reason folks don't have one is because of the cost. It's 10k. Most folks on this platform won't spend that on their turbo kit much less what it cost for a proper built engine. That's why were are stuck in the stone age as far as development is concerned.

With 37HRs hitting 400whp all motor, VHRs hanging in the 360+ cams, bolted allmotor and boosted setups only having engine issues we can agree that an exotic ecm might not yield that much especially since an exotic ECM would have a hard time controlling the Speedometer/triple meter.

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin

Old Datsun/Nissan hardbody would be cool. Besides this E30, they've already put them in a S30, Miata, and S2000. The DEs have been swapped into even more chassis, including a Sunny truck.

The idea is to follow vehicles they make DE swap kits for since the mounts are the same height a VHR in theory will bolt up using DE swap mounts, softening the financial requirements of this swap.

THE BULL · 06-09-2022, 08:41 AM

I have a friend in south FL who VHR swapped a 03 Z with EVERYTHING from a 370z.

From an electronic standpoint the man spent $2k on recycled wiring and had a perfectly running VHR swapped 350z.

The issue is how much stuff the OEM wiring has and dissecting these to leave the just the necessary is just as challenging

From the BMW standpoint wiring might be a bit easier depending on how complete that VHR swap is.

I'm a firm believer the VHR dominates, their only downfalls are gallery gaskets and oil cooler. I compare the gallery gasket to BMW Vanos issues if it ever develops. Anything 6 cylinders making more than 300whp will heat up that oil, the VQ will just heat it up faster than most.

Once both cars are set up, engine failure would be most cost effective with a VHR. The BMW counterpart is starting to become a more exotic engine due to it's age.

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THE BULL Base Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 216 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 26850	I have a friend in south FL who VHR swapped a 03 Z with EVERYTHING from a 370z. From an electronic standpoint the man spent $2k on recycled wiring and had a perfectly running VHR swapped 350z. The issue is how much stuff the OEM wiring has and dissecting these to leave the just the necessary is just as challenging From the BMW standpoint wiring might be a bit easier depending on how complete that VHR swap is. I'm a firm believer the VHR dominates, their only downfalls are gallery gaskets and oil cooler. I compare the gallery gasket to BMW Vanos issues if it ever develops. Anything 6 cylinders making more than 300whp will heat up that oil, the VQ will just heat it up faster than most. Once both cars are set up, engine failure would be most cost effective with a VHR. The BMW counterpart is starting to become a more exotic engine due to it's age.