Nissan 370Z Forum  

Auto to Manual Swap - 370z

I know I know, it's cheaper to buy a manual car.. trust me I do want that. but the options in Korea are a bit limited.. there are 7 manual

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain

Like Tree6Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-09-2019, 12:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default Auto to Manual Swap - 370z

I know I know, it's cheaper to buy a manual car.. trust me I do want that.
but the options in Korea are a bit limited.. there are 7 manual 370z's and the I know all the owners and they do not want to sell it. to bring a used manual car from the states or canada costs around +170% of the car to just bring it here, so my options are either a swap or get rid of the car and drive a hyundai. I want to do the swap. I have a couple people who worked on Z's for a long time (professionally) so we can have the parts and hardware installed, no problem. The only problem is the software side of things. Since noone has tried to convert a 370z auto to a manual with the original VQ engine, there are no information available to me. So despite all the criticism from basically everyone who doesn't drive manual here in Korea, how would the software side work to make this swap work?


P.S. please keep the criticism to yourself, I'm pretty tired of all this "I would buy a BMW, BENZ, etc. with that money" crap that I get everyday while I'm here: I just love this car and I love to drive manual.
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
Rated Z
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 38
Posts: 30,050
Drives: 2011 370Z Sport MT
Rep Power: 2684423
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratatouille89 View Post
Since noone has tried to convert a 370z auto to a manual with the original VQ engine, there are no information available to me. ... how would the software side work to make this swap work?
I haven't heard of anyone doing the swap successfully, which is why there is virtually no information. Since you're paving the way here, I'm guessing you're on your own for figuring out the software. Good luck!
wideglideleon likes this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | RJM | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 12:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 7,560
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 45678
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You will need to replace the ECM and TCM plus some wiring harnesses. Plus the shifter position switch will have to be replaced. Probably some other stuff.

The FSM (link in sig) will be a useful resource for your project.

Personally, I'd enjoy the auto until one of the manuals comes on the market.
wideglideleon likes this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 12:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Taipei
Posts: 218
Drives: 2012 370z
Rep Power: 20
andy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

There are almost 10 370Z/G37s that have converted from 7AT to 6MT including mine here in Taiwan. I have been driving it for almost 3yr without problem.

To answer your question, you can either swap to 6MT ECU or use your original ECU to re-flash it to the version you want.
JARblue, Brendan and Jayhovah like this.
__________________
Current: 2018 Cayenne / 2012 370z / 2012 C250 Coupe
Gone: 2013 Cayenne / 2004 Cayenne S / 2003 SL55 AMG / 2008 C300 / 2006 350z / 2006 C280 4Matic
andy_meng1024 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 01:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
macdaddymayZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Alabama
Posts: 1
Drives: 17 370Z Red A7
Rep Power: 2
macdaddymayZ is on a distinguished road
Default

I would *LOVE* to swap my 7AT to a 6MT!!! I have two teenagers who have grandiose visions of going to college, so my dream of upgrading to a 2019 or 2020 6MT Nismo will continue to remain a dream for LONG time. By the time I am ready to upgrade to a 6MT Nismo, Nissan will have a new Z ready to buy (ha-ha, just kidding).

I love my Z and I have little desire to replace it with anything (...except possibly a Camaro 2SS...), I just wish it had a manual transmission.
__________________
I Sport-Tech my Red Z!
macdaddymayZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 02:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_meng1024 View Post
There are almost 10 370Z/G37s that have converted from 7AT to 6MT including mine here in Taiwan. I have been driving it for almost 3yr without problem.

To answer your question, you can either swap to 6MT ECU or use your original ECU to re-flash it to the version you want.
do you have details on how u have done it ?
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 02:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by macdaddymayZ View Post
I would *LOVE* to swap my 7AT to a 6MT!!! I have two teenagers who have grandiose visions of going to college, so my dream of upgrading to a 2019 or 2020 6MT Nismo will continue to remain a dream for LONG time. By the time I am ready to upgrade to a 6MT Nismo, Nissan will have a new Z ready to buy (ha-ha, just kidding).

I love my Z and I have little desire to replace it with anything (...except possibly a Camaro 2SS...), I just wish it had a manual transmission.
yeah if there was a nismo in korea I would have got it straight away but the 3~4 nismos here costs around $80,000 and nissan korea doesnt sell manual or nismo
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 02:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
You will need to replace the ECM and TCM plus some wiring harnesses. Plus the shifter position switch will have to be replaced. Probably some other stuff.

The FSM (link in sig) will be a useful resource for your project.

Personally, I'd enjoy the auto until one of the manuals comes on the market.
sweet thnks for the info ! we have some used salvaged parts that we can get directly from japan and a manual tranny is one of them
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 02:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JARblue View Post
I haven't heard of anyone doing the swap successfully, which is why there is virtually no information. Since you're paving the way here, I'm guessing you're on your own for figuring out the software. Good luck!
hey thanks for the support, really appreciate it
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 03:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
Track Member
 
vtec to vvel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: 813
Posts: 822
Drives: 13 Z
Rep Power: 5738
vtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratatouille89 View Post
but the options in Korea are a bit limited.. there are 7 manual 370z's and the I know all the owners and they do not want to sell it. to bring a used manual car from the states or canada costs around +170% of the car to just bring it here, so my options are either a swap or get rid of the car and drive a hyundai.

I'm sorry, but Japan is right across from the Korean peninsula and wouldn't be it easier/cheaper bringing the vehicle from Japan where it's made?
__________________
This Space Intentionally Left Blank

Last edited by vtec to vvel; 09-09-2019 at 03:40 PM.
vtec to vvel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 08:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtec to vvel View Post
I'm sorry, but Japan is right across from the Korean peninsula and wouldn't be it easier/cheaper bringing the vehicle from Japan where it's made?
I wish it was but with the boycott that is happening currently in Korea, the tax is enormous if you want a right hand drive car.
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 09:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
Track Member
 
vtec to vvel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: 813
Posts: 822
Drives: 13 Z
Rep Power: 5738
vtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond reputevtec to vvel has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratatouille89 View Post
I wish it was but with the boycott that is happening currently in Korea, the tax is enormous if you want a right hand drive car.
Fortunately, the dollar is at the moment way stronger than the won. I’m currently in the Gangnam area of Seoul for work and I’m treated like a king when I tell them I’m an American (I’m 100% Korean but born in the States) and you’d be surprised how much they will bargain and deal. But yeah, good luck on your venture and keep us posted!
__________________
This Space Intentionally Left Blank
vtec to vvel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2019, 10:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Taipei
Posts: 218
Drives: 2012 370z
Rep Power: 20
andy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond reputeandy_meng1024 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ratatouille89 View Post
do you have details on how u have done it ?


Yeah I bought new trans, clutch combo, clutch oil reservoir including clutch line, pedals, and manual shifter. Rear diff, manual drive shaft, and ECU I also bought but theyíre optional. Seb can do the manual ECU firmware reflash if you donít have a local tuner thatís capable of doing it.


iPhoneTapatalk
JARblue likes this.
__________________
Current: 2018 Cayenne / 2012 370z / 2012 C250 Coupe
Gone: 2013 Cayenne / 2004 Cayenne S / 2003 SL55 AMG / 2008 C300 / 2006 350z / 2006 C280 4Matic
andy_meng1024 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2019, 12:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_meng1024 View Post
Yeah I bought new trans, clutch combo, clutch oil reservoir including clutch line, pedals, and manual shifter. Rear diff, manual drive shaft, and ECU I also bought but theyíre optional. Seb can do the manual ECU firmware reflash if you donít have a local tuner thatís capable of doing it.


iPhoneTapatalk
so there were no electrical issues like no rev matching or other sorts?
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2019, 12:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Seoul
Posts: 20
Drives: 14 Nissan 370z
Rep Power: 1
Ratatouille89 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vtec to vvel View Post
Fortunately, the dollar is at the moment way stronger than the won. Iím currently in the Gangnam area of Seoul for work and Iím treated like a king when I tell them Iím an American (Iím 100% Korean but born in the States) and youíd be surprised how much they will bargain and deal. But yeah, good luck on your venture and keep us posted!
yeah same for me , I'm 100% korean but born in the states, lived in Canada for the other half of my life. but the paycheck I get is won and it kinda sucks for me cuz the won is at a shitty state atm. I'm also in gangnam haha nice to meet someone like me here
Ratatouille89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
370z auto transmission swap Jay_BJJ Engine & Drivetrain 11 05-27-2014 03:01 PM
manual Swap megalapagas Engine & Drivetrain 30 08-01-2013 05:00 AM
370z auto vs manual Axelsc1 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 19 11-28-2011 08:25 PM
auto vs. manual 370z bmarcinczyk14 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 24 08-03-2009 09:25 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2