Is it necessary to ger an Oil Cooler?
 

So I mentioned on my last thread that I feel a lack of throttle response time to time. I've come to the conclusion that every single time the oil temp hits 220 or above, it becomes very sluggish. Anything below, even slightly below 220, car seems to run fine. It's the weirdest **** ever. Ive checked my air filter theyre SLIGHTLY dirty. Its been doing this last year as well and the filters were still mint. Not sure if getting a for example a Mishimoto Oil Cooler would help keep the temp steady at 180 or so. Not tracking the car at all so that's why I feel its unnecessary to get an oil cooler but I'm too anal with my Z. Not sure if a vented hood would help dissipate heat. Not sure. Any input will be appreciated.

Before I got an oil cooler, I was reaching 250 just driving on the freeway with no traffic. I got the Z1 25 row cooler, and my temps have never gone over 210 (in Arizona when it was 110 degrees out). Id get it just to keep the temps down. I wouldnt go with the Mishimoto as Ive heard horror stories about them though.

:iagree: about Mishimoto. Avoid if you can.

An oil cooler is absolutely necessary for this car. Yours is pulling timing from overheat. Absolute no to Mishitmoto though. It's like buying your infant a toy made of depleted uranium and painted with lead - you just don't do it.

Go Z1 or FI. I prefer Z1 bc the oil lines have a larger diameter.

What year is your Z?

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Mmmmmm! Lead based painted walls taste like candy! Yum!! :icon14: Can... not... re... sist!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This. Explains. So much.

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An oil cooler is a must.When I first got my stock Z(before the trip down the rabbit whole with mods) and was driving it 400 miles home.A little spirited driving would spike the temp.I had just bought the car and this really concerned me.

As other have said, if you do any spirited driving, an oil cooler is a good idea. In your case, since you are hitting the temperature nanny, it sounds like it would be a great idea.

With a good cooler, hood vents shouldn't be necessary.

No way? I thought Mishimoto was always the "go-to" brand? So is it possible for you to send me a link to the Z1 Cooler?

miSHITmoto is nothing more than rebranded Chinese garbage. Stay away!!

The reason you think they are good is because they cheap out on the products to the extreme and then spend all their money on marketing to trick the consumer into thinking the products aren't big pieces of crap.

If by "go-to" you mean "go-to buy a new engine bc the thermostatic plate's o-ring failed and your Z shat all its oil out on the road in about 6 seconds," then yes.

https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...it-p-4135.html

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My Z's a 2013. So go with the Z1 for sure?

Lmfaooooo, thank you!

That's crazy! Well looks like I'm sold for the Z1! Thanks for the heads up!

For example: these are the exact same cans.

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Yes, definitely Z1. Buy a 34 row. You can always throw on a blockoff plate in the winter.

I went with a 25 row thinking I didnt need a 34 row bc I dont track the car. A year later I ended up buying a 34 row. So save yourself the expense and go BIG.

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Since you have the stock oil cooler sandwich you'll have to use a shot oil filter if you arent already. Like Mobil1 1008A.

The longer filters can technically fit. Mine did. But I'd have to loosen the hose fittings to the thermo plate to get the filter off and a new one on. Not worth the hassle and subsequent seepage.

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Having had a 19 row Mishimoto oil cooler back in the day the AN fittings were anything but durable they leaked and the sandwich plate leaked over time. I have had quite a few different brand oil coolers over the years and the out of all of them the only oil cooler that I installed on my Z that never leaked was the AAM Competition S-Line oil cooler and fitment was excellent. An oil cooler is there to do one thing and that’s lower your engine oil temperatures.

I did end up swapping in Aeroquip braided stainless lines and fittings. No leaks so far but OTOH the Z hasn't been out of the garage since...

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Still sucking that AAM ****, huh? STOP GIVING ADVICE.

OP, do not listen to this guy. He is notorious around here for bad advice and blind loyalty to terrible vendors. AAM is garbage people making garbage parts. Buy your oil cooler from FI($$$), Z1($$) or piece together one with the following: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ttsa-pics.html .

Do i need to play peace maker?

Now would you mind and explain what a 25 Row or 34 Row is? And where can I get a blockoff plate? I'm assuming that's just strictly for the Winter, don't want toooo low of a temp lol. Also do I HAVE to use a longer size oil filter? if so, why? And I know they should fit, like the OEM Nissan 65FOE can be swapped with the OEM 9E long filters but do the filters make a difference?

The rows are the size of the oil cooler. They seem to mostly be 19, 25 and 34 rows. You make the blockoff plate yourself. If the oil won't get warm enough, make a plate to cover part of the oil cooler in the winter.

Make sure you get one with a thermostatic sandwich plate, or the oil will never get up to temp.

Don't defend that retard. He's really becoming a cancer on this forum.

Yes :rofl2:

Can I ask you what a thermostatic SANDWICH PLATE?? I'm on Z1 and theres an option to get one, what is it and what does it do? And is a blockoff plate necessary though? What would the blockoff plate do? Sorry if I'm too extra :/

The sandwich adapter goes between the oil filter and the motor, with lines running into and out of the core. That's how the cooler gets fed oil. A thermostatic sandwich plate had a temperature controlled valve in it that blocks most all of the oil flow until the oil heats up. That way it can still get up to temp. It's like the thermostat in your cooling system. The blockoff plate is only needed if the oil is getting overcooled in winter. It just covers part of the cooler to block airflow to it, and raise the temp of the oil.

A thermostatic plate is a thermostat, allows more or less oil to pass to the cooler. Just like your engine coolant termostat.

I have a Z1 34 row with the thermostat. During the hot GA Summers I was running around 220 degrees with the stock cooler. Since the install, she runs between 180 and 190 depending on how “Spirited” I’m driving that day.

Cruising the freeway at 70 - 85 MPH in 96 degree weather is usually locked at 180 degrees.

Money well spent.

Okay here goes a ear full of questions haha.

-What happens if I don't run a Thermostatic Sandwich Plate?

-If I do run a Thermostatic Plate, from my understanding the Oil Filter is on the Thermo Plate, and the Thermo Plate is connected to the STOCK Oil Cooler?

-How does the Z1 Cooler work? So during the Winter how does the Z1 Cooler shut down to get up to temp? Does the stock oil cooler do the job to get it up to temp and THEN the Z1 Cooler kicks back on?

-When the Z1 Cooler shuts down, do I still have oil in and out of my oil filter? Just asking because Ive seen a picture on Google with the Lines running out of the Thermo Plate, so if it shuts down, am I "filterless" until it kicks back on when up to temp?

-Also why would I need to change Oil Filter types? Why cant I use the OE Oil Filter? And if it has to be changed, which brand filter would you recommend?
Sorry for these nonsense questions lol, gotta knowwwww

I've posted it before and I will post it again. Yes.

Daily driving, spirited driving (no track) and traffic jams? - 19 row cooler recommended

All the above plus track usage - 34 row oil cooler needed

Mandatory things to get done to the Z once in you possession unless done so already (in terms of importance):

1) Wheel lock removal
2) CSC elimination kit (Z1 or Z speed)
3) Oil cooler (Get one with Setrab core, check out Z1, Stillen, Zspeed or Fast intentions)
4) Differential bushing change (White line or SPL)

now you know how i feel

Note that the Stillen one will require a different size oil filter

fast intentions and z1 retain the stock size, ALTHOUGH i recently found out that certain brands won't fit because they used a larger size

The Pennzoil filter did not fit on my Nismo with the 36 row Z1 because it is larger than stock. A Wix filter fit fine

I am FOR SURE grabbing the EZ-Street Stage 2 Clutch Kit along with the CSC Delete Kit from ZSPEED soon!

Now can I just get the 34 Row for the hell of it? I'm driving in Jersey traffic and Summer temps averaging between 85-100 a day. No track days whatsoever.

Got Z1 Polyurethane Diff Bushings

What is a "Setrab Core"?

Why does the Oil Cooler kit require a different Oil Filter and not just keep it OE?

The plate bypasses the cooler when the oil is cold (the oil flows straight through the plate). As the oil warms up, more and more of the flow is sent through the cooler. During colder weather, you may want to block some of the air flow over the cooler as few, if any, plates will completely block flow to cooler (no positive shutoff).

My question is what does installing an oil cooler do to a warranty?

I would guess that would depend on what work your having warranted. Same as changing the exhaust, the intakes, tuning it...

I’m still using the stock size. You’ll find out why you don’t want to go bigger if you change your own oil. It’s a bitch getting the filter on and off.

Being born and raised in N.J., I will tell you without a doubt you want a thermostat. Gets way too cold not to have one.