Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside!

denchan350gt · 06-21-2016, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

I have all the usual bolt-ons and am wondering what these cams along with maybe ported TBs, and upper/lower manifolds will do to a car that already has everythign else.

Hopefully we will find out in a few weeks just waiting on the stg 2 results.

I have ported upper and lowers
70mm TBs
3in intakes
Aluminum driveshaft (I have a G37) 370's are CF stock.

Before the cams and the mods above car put down 320/260 on a dynojet.

Elmo370z · 06-19-2016, 11:49 PM

Interesting

brucelidat · 06-21-2016, 01:55 AM

Where did you get the 70mm TBs and intake? Do you have headers installed already?

synolimit · 06-21-2016, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat

Where did you get the 70mm TBs and intake? Do you have headers installed already?

Prob Jake and Mosef, eps and admin.

denchan350gt · 06-21-2016, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat

Where did you get the 70mm TBs and intake? Do you have headers installed already?

I got the TBs from EPS tuning had them for about a year.

3in intakes my friend at RZG is making for me. I will have a set of AAM 2.75 intakes for sale soon.

My upper and lower was ported by Synolimit

No headers yet I'm waiting to see what the Motordyne LTH produce. Wish they were out while the motor is still on the stand.

brucelidat · 07-19-2016, 12:09 PM

[QUOTE=denchan350gt;3501830]I got the TBs from EPS tuning had them for about a year.

3in intakes my friend at RZG is making for me. I will have a set of AAM 2.75 intakes for sale soon.

What do these 3" intakes look like? Are they designed like the AAM intakes, just with a thicker pipe? Are the 70" TBs made to fit 3"?

MAMotorsports · 06-22-2016, 08:14 AM

None of that was aimed at you directly, I just wanted to clear the air as I keep getting calls from people with very false info on these. I just dont want people to be miss informed or waiting on a product for a few weeks, when in all honestly it will be a few months.

Also, unless you have long tubes the C2s are not going to work as well as they should. With a larger cam like this the engine will really need to breathe.

-Daelen

synolimit · 07-19-2016, 12:26 PM

Based on rules for TT at my current weight I need 16 more HP. I'd love cams but idk what to do at this point. I've tried E85 on uprev and lost 12hp. $800 for ecutek doesn't sound appetizing. Uprev claims huge release soon but I doubt a tune/timing/fuel etc will net 10hp. Only cheap thing I could try is maybe bigger TB's and go back to larger intakes. Other than that I'd love a cam that should produce a result unlike keeping my fingers crossed on a tuning package.

MAMotorsports · 07-20-2016, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit

Based on rules for TT at my current weight I need 16 more HP. I'd love cams but idk what to do at this point. I've tried E85 on uprev and lost 12hp. $800 for ecutek doesn't sound appetizing. Uprev claims huge release soon but I doubt a tune/timing/fuel etc will net 10hp. Only cheap thing I could try is maybe bigger TB's and go back to larger intakes. Other than that I'd love a cam that should produce a result unlike keeping my fingers crossed on a tuning package.

I know we have spoken before about the issues you have had, I would honestly say the jump to ECUtek may be the best bet with all the problems you have had on UpRev. Start with that, and see where it takes you, although I think cams will help it sounds to me like other issues need to be sorted first.

-Daelen

brucelidat · 07-19-2016, 02:13 PM

If I could pick up 40who/40wtrq from Larger TBs, larger intake piping, ported upper/lower manis and the Cams for about $5500 all in (including labor and tune) without it sounding bad (the 'lobe lobe lobe' sound I've heard from some other cams), I am probably in. I know that's asking a lot, but that's what it would take for this investment to be worthwhile to me at this point. Any knowledgeable people think that is reasonable or possible?

These are my hopes/expectations for gains

Stage 2 cams - 20whp, 35wtrq (seems like a lot, but they're saying the stage 1s gained 30 so...)
Ported upper/lower mani - 7whp
70mm TBs - 6 whp
Larger CAI piping - 4 whp
bump (top end) from losing the m370 - 5 whp
Trq from combination of piping, TBs, upper/lower manis - 10 wtrq

total - 42 whp, 45 wtrq
end result - 350+whp, 310 wtrq for under 6k

Is this a pipe dream?

Elmo370z · 07-19-2016, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat

If I could pick up 40who/40wtrq from Larger TBs, larger intake piping, ported upper/lower manis and the Cams for about $5500 all in (including labor and tune) without it sounding bad (the 'lobe lobe lobe' sound I've heard from some other cams), I am probably in. I know that's asking a lot, but that's what it would take for this investment to be worthwhile to me at this point. Any knowledgeable people think that is reasonable or possible?

Would you could run into a flow issue? I'm be interested in those results with that set up. I"m halfway into my savings for the big NA build.

MAMotorsports · 07-20-2016, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat

If I could pick up 40who/40wtrq from Larger TBs, larger intake piping, ported upper/lower manis and the Cams for about $5500 all in (including labor and tune) without it sounding bad (the 'lobe lobe lobe' sound I've heard from some other cams), I am probably in. I know that's asking a lot, but that's what it would take for this investment to be worthwhile to me at this point. Any knowledgeable people think that is reasonable or possible?

These are my hopes/expectations for gains

Stage 2 cams - 20whp, 35wtrq (seems like a lot, but they're saying the stage 1s gained 30 so...)
Ported upper/lower mani - 7whp
70mm TBs - 6 whp
Larger CAI piping - 4 whp
bump (top end) from losing the m370 - 5 whp
Trq from combination of piping, TBs, upper/lower manis - 10 wtrq

total - 42 whp, 45 wtrq
end result - 350+whp, 310 wtrq for under 6k

Is this a pipe dream?

These numbers do not seem like a pipe dream to me, but the variance from brand to brand for each part will have to be taken into account. As one brand may loose power, one may make power. Only testing will tell. Even more so with every car being a little bit different, and people being in different locations, different dynos, etc. The number on the dyno is not always the full story.

One big thing I see missing on your list is headers, its in my belief that to take full advantage of the upcoming C2s a set of long tubes will be a big step forward. Even more so if you are on the hunt for torque.

-Daelen

brucelidat · 07-19-2016, 04:06 PM

I have no idea. I am waiting for people who know better than me to figure it out. Waiting for updates from people who do these mods.

brucelidat · 07-20-2016, 10:08 AM

I already have headers

MAMotorsports · 07-21-2016, 01:37 PM

Perfect

06-21-2016, 01:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	Where did you get the 70mm TBs and intake? Do you have headers installed already? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

07-19-2016, 12:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	[QUOTE=denchan350gt;3501830]I got the TBs from EPS tuning had them for about a year. 3in intakes my friend at RZG is making for me. I will have a set of AAM 2.75 intakes for sale soon. What do these 3" intakes look like? Are they designed like the AAM intakes, just with a thicker pipe? Are the 70" TBs made to fit 3"? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq Last edited by brucelidat; 07-19-2016 at 12:15 PM.

06-22-2016, 08:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 18	None of that was aimed at you directly, I just wanted to clear the air as I keep getting calls from people with very false info on these. I just dont want people to be miss informed or waiting on a product for a few weeks, when in all honestly it will be a few months. Also, unless you have long tubes the C2s are not going to work as well as they should. With a larger cam like this the engine will really need to breathe. -Daelen 12nismo likes this. __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828 Last edited by MAMotorsports; 06-22-2016 at 02:18 PM.

07-19-2016, 12:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3391	Based on rules for TT at my current weight I need 16 more HP. I'd love cams but idk what to do at this point. I've tried E85 on uprev and lost 12hp. $800 for ecutek doesn't sound appetizing. Uprev claims huge release soon but I doubt a tune/timing/fuel etc will net 10hp. Only cheap thing I could try is maybe bigger TB's and go back to larger intakes. Other than that I'd love a cam that should produce a result unlike keeping my fingers crossed on a tuning package. Spartan 1771 likes this. __________________ 13 370z- Last edited by synolimit; 07-19-2016 at 12:43 PM.

07-19-2016, 02:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	If I could pick up 40who/40wtrq from Larger TBs, larger intake piping, ported upper/lower manis and the Cams for about $5500 all in (including labor and tune) without it sounding bad (the 'lobe lobe lobe' sound I've heard from some other cams), I am probably in. I know that's asking a lot, but that's what it would take for this investment to be worthwhile to me at this point. Any knowledgeable people think that is reasonable or possible? These are my hopes/expectations for gains Stage 2 cams - 20whp, 35wtrq (seems like a lot, but they're saying the stage 1s gained 30 so...) Ported upper/lower mani - 7whp 70mm TBs - 6 whp Larger CAI piping - 4 whp bump (top end) from losing the m370 - 5 whp Trq from combination of piping, TBs, upper/lower manis - 10 wtrq total - 42 whp, 45 wtrq end result - 350+whp, 310 wtrq for under 6k Is this a pipe dream? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq Last edited by brucelidat; 07-19-2016 at 05:38 PM.

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Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,730 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295380	Interesting

07-19-2016, 04:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	I have no idea. I am waiting for people who know better than me to figure it out. Waiting for updates from people who do these mods. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

07-20-2016, 10:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	I already have headers __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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