Forged Performance: Our First 370Z Custom ECU Flash

Sharif@Forged · 10-26-2009, 09:27 AM

UpRev has finalized all the ROM's for the 370Z so on Saturday we dyno tuned our first 370Z. Prior to the tune, we installed Stillen Hi Flow cats, and a Stillen cold air intake.

One of the key features of the UpRev software, as the ability to conduct real time tuning, and allows for very precise adjustments to be made quickly in real-time. I ended with a net 15whp gain once the dyno tune was completed.

As a reminder, our Dyno Dynamics dyno typically reads about 10% lower than a dynojet. For instance a bone stock 370Z registers about 250-255whp. Let me know if you have any question.

FuszNissan · 10-26-2009, 10:21 AM

I was hoping for more. But I am not too fimilar with ECU tunes; is 15whp after bolt-ons pretty normal. And these other companies that advertise 30% increase including the bolt-on numbers with tune vs. the base dyno to pad their numbers?

Thanks

cotizi · 10-26-2009, 10:57 AM

thats more than I expected actually. Im interested to see if there is any change in power delivery and if the rev limter has been moved up. Data seems to end at 7500 RPM. Looks like power is gained all throughout the rev range as well.

kannibul · 10-26-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I was hoping for more. But I am not too fimilar with ECU tunes; is 15whp after bolt-ons pretty normal. And these other companies that advertise 30% increase including the bolt-on numbers with tune vs. the base dyno to pad their numbers?

Thanks

I think this was showing after mods, then after mods + ecu-mod.

15whp isn't a bad gain after that...

Sharif@Forged · 10-26-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I was hoping for more. But I am not too fimilar with ECU tunes; is 15whp after bolt-ons pretty normal. And these other companies that advertise 30% increase including the bolt-on numbers with tune vs. the base dyno to pad their numbers?

Thanks

A true NO BS gain of 15whp from ECU tuning alone is very respectable. We always choose the highest pre and highest post tune runs. We could pad the numbers we choosing our lowest pre tune, and highest post tune numbers, but we've never done that. Aside from the absolute power gain, you also end up with a engine that is running at it's peak from a safety and power standpoint.

I have seen some cars with bolt on mods, running 14:1 AFR's at WOT without tuning which is definatley not safe. Every car is a little bit different, so the level of gains will depend on the current state of the base tune. For instance, if a 370Z came in with an overly rich tune, or overly lean, the gains could be 20whp+ once we are doing properly calibrating the ECU.

As a general rule, we usually see about 10-15whp from normally aspirated ECU tuning.

Modshack · 10-26-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

A true NO BS gain of 15whp from ECU tuning alone is very respectable. .

...Nice work!

Mike · 10-26-2009, 11:26 AM

and you didn't mention this to me when I was just there??????

jpit · 10-26-2009, 12:22 PM

Sharif,

When an owner comes in and wants to get a dyno tune I assume he buys an Osiris Flash service ($300) and then dyno time. How many runs did it take to get the 15 hp?
Thanks

Sharif@Forged · 10-26-2009, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

and you didn't mention this to me when I was just there??????

Because you didn't make an appointment...LOL....just kidding!!!

FuszNissan · 10-26-2009, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the insight Sharif.

JoeD · 10-26-2009, 02:29 PM

Very nice. Similar gains to this are right within expectations of a proper dyno-tune.

shabarivas · 10-26-2009, 02:40 PM

Good question - also would like to know

semtex · 10-26-2009, 02:48 PM

All set for Sharif to tune my car on Wednesday.

ssqpolo · 10-26-2009, 03:51 PM

nice! can't wait to get mine done now. not to make this another cobb vs uprev war, but which one do u prefer?

Ricochet48 · 10-26-2009, 08:39 PM

15hp on a reflashed ECU is solid. That's about what I have on my Hondata reflash. What's the torque increase at? The curve is looking great already.

The real question is the price. I paid ~$500 for my reflash, to unlock an ECU for dynamic tuning you are looking at $1000+.

Good work! I will definitely get intakes and probably the hi-flow cats too

10-26-2009, 09:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 17	Forged Performance: Our First 370Z Custom ECU Flash UpRev has finalized all the ROM's for the 370Z so on Saturday we dyno tuned our first 370Z. Prior to the tune, we installed Stillen Hi Flow cats, and a Stillen cold air intake. One of the key features of the UpRev software, as the ability to conduct real time tuning, and allows for very precise adjustments to be made quickly in real-time. I ended with a net 15whp gain once the dyno tune was completed. As a reminder, our Dyno Dynamics dyno typically reads about 10% lower than a dynojet. For instance a bone stock 370Z registers about 250-255whp. Let me know if you have any question. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified Last edited by Sharif@Forged; 10-26-2009 at 09:33 AM.

10-26-2009, 10:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I was hoping for more. But I am not too fimilar with ECU tunes; is 15whp after bolt-ons pretty normal. And these other companies that advertise 30% increase including the bolt-on numbers with tune vs. the base dyno to pad their numbers? Thanks __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

10-26-2009, 10:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
cotizi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 391 Drives: 2012 VW GTI 6MT Rep Power: 217	thats more than I expected actually. Im interested to see if there is any change in power delivery and if the rev limter has been moved up. Data seems to end at 7500 RPM. Looks like power is gained all throughout the rev range as well. __________________ Past - 2009 Silver 6MT Sport 370Z Current - 2012 VW GTI 6-Speed

10-26-2009, 11:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	and you didn't mention this to me when I was just there?????? __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-26-2009, 02:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	Thanks for the insight Sharif. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

10-26-2009, 12:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	Sharif, When an owner comes in and wants to get a dyno tune I assume he buys an Osiris Flash service ($300) and then dyno time. How many runs did it take to get the 15 hp? Thanks

10-26-2009, 02:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	Very nice. Similar gains to this are right within expectations of a proper dyno-tune.

10-26-2009, 02:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Good question - also would like to know

10-26-2009, 02:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 53 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	All set for Sharif to tune my car on Wednesday. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

10-26-2009, 03:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
ssqpolo Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 882 Drives: '12 Black Nismo Rep Power: 267	nice! can't wait to get mine done now. not to make this another cobb vs uprev war, but which one do u prefer?

10-26-2009, 08:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ricochet48 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Darien, IL Posts: 117 Drives: 06 Acura RSX Type S Rep Power: 16	15hp on a reflashed ECU is solid. That's about what I have on my Hondata reflash. What's the torque increase at? The curve is looking great already. The real question is the price. I paid ~$500 for my reflash, to unlock an ECU for dynamic tuning you are looking at $1000+. Good work! I will definitely get intakes and probably the hi-flow cats too __________________ I feel like some RWD and torque!

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