Engine will not start, seeking ideas

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 02:04 PM

So, Friday I traveled 2 hours home from work without problem. At my exit I took a little fast but no more than usual. At the base of the exit as soon as I hit accelerator it died (manual). Then after it shutter started a few times, no pings or bangs. More like a couple cylinders wer r firing others werent.

Fast forward to a tow coming because battery died trying to get it started....

He hooked up the wrong terminals. Then it wouldn't turn over at all.

This morning tried to start it and got a click per attempt but no turn over. There is a high pitched whistle though that only goes away if the negative is taken off.

There is now a new battery in it and it still won't turn over. There a fuse I need to check or something? Need help.

All other electrical items work but are running off battery power so i have taken the negative off for the time being.

Anyone had this happen? Know how it happened or how to fix it?

DOOMMONKEY777 · 06-21-2015, 02:20 PM

Bad fuel pump, coil, or worse situation ECU. Also check fuses behind the battery and next to your clutch pedal if they all give continuity.

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 02:38 PM

Ah yes, fuses was the first place I went. Kick plate fuses all tested good. Fuses next to battery good including the starter one.

Please tell me there is another set I missed, I mean that, I hope it's just a fuse.

Dealership is coming to pick up tomorrow but I hate to see what that is going to run

DOOMMONKEY777 · 06-21-2015, 02:42 PM

Let them diagnose it, it might be the coil pack not sending electricity to all the plugs.

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 02:46 PM

The high pitched humming, almost a buzz, idea of what that may be? Isolated it to the drivers side of the engine bay.

DOOMMONKEY777 · 06-21-2015, 02:55 PM

Ohh vacuumed tube leak maybe, check the hoses connections near and behind engine.

Z_ealot · 06-21-2015, 03:21 PM

Sorry to suggest it, but seeing as your tow truck driver hooked the battery up wrong, there might be a chance he fried some things, maybe even the alternator

DOOMMONKEY777 · 06-21-2015, 03:54 PM

I just looked at my engine and tried to figure out what could make that sound and its only the throttle bodies electric motor gears might be stripped and the valve is in closed position, where no air is goin to the engine.

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 03:59 PM

Those are all things I was worried about. Originally I thought it was air in the lines from the sharp turn. Anyone know what side it's on. I took a hard right so the fuel would have been forced to the left.

And another weird thing. I had 40-50% fuel when it died. Got 3 gallons in it and then it read little over 1/4.

Jordo! · 06-21-2015, 04:05 PM

Ehhh... he might have fried or at least "bricked" the ECU

Can you get it on enough to plug a reader into the OBDII port?

EDIT: Wait, did you say you took a sharp right hand turn and it died. It's probably fuel starvation then -- there's tons of threads on that.

SouthArk370Z · 06-21-2015, 04:06 PM

If you have checked all the fuses (don't forget the fusible links near the battery terminal), then it's time to let a pro look at it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauran

... He hooked up the wrong terminals. Then it wouldn't turn over at all ...

May have damaged one (or more) of the electronic modules.

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 04:12 PM

Kick plate fuses and the ones next to the battery are all good. No signs of burn or burn through

Bauran · 06-21-2015, 04:13 PM

And literally everything in the car, save the eengine, electronically work. I'm hoping that means the on board computer isn't fubar.

Also rocked the car in gear without it skipping over to see if maybe the starter bound, old trick

BC416 · 06-22-2015, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauran

So, Friday I traveled 2 hours home from work without problem. At my exit I took a little fast but no more than usual. At the base of the exit as soon as I hit accelerator it died (manual). Then after it shutter started a few times, no pings or bangs. More like a couple cylinders wer r firing others werent.

Fast forward to a tow coming because battery died trying to get it started....

He hooked up the wrong terminals. Then it wouldn't turn over at all.

This morning tried to start it and got a click per attempt but no turn over. There is a high pitched whistle though that only goes away if the negative is taken off.

There is now a new battery in it and it still won't turn over. There a fuse I need to check or something? Need help.

All other electrical items work but are running off battery power so i have taken the negative off for the time being.

Anyone had this happen? Know how it happened or how to fix it?

Did this happen to be a right handed turn and were you low on fuel?

Bauran · 06-22-2015, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416

Did this happen to be a right handed turn and were you low on fuel?

Yes 35 mph exit going faster than 35, 1/4 tank

06-21-2015, 02:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	Engine will not start, seeking ideas So, Friday I traveled 2 hours home from work without problem. At my exit I took a little fast but no more than usual. At the base of the exit as soon as I hit accelerator it died (manual). Then after it shutter started a few times, no pings or bangs. More like a couple cylinders wer r firing others werent. Fast forward to a tow coming because battery died trying to get it started.... He hooked up the wrong terminals. Then it wouldn't turn over at all. This morning tried to start it and got a click per attempt but no turn over. There is a high pitched whistle though that only goes away if the negative is taken off. There is now a new battery in it and it still won't turn over. There a fuse I need to check or something? Need help. All other electrical items work but are running off battery power so i have taken the negative off for the time being. Anyone had this happen? Know how it happened or how to fix it?

06-21-2015, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	Bad fuel pump, coil, or worse situation ECU. Also check fuses behind the battery and next to your clutch pedal if they all give continuity. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

06-21-2015, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	Let them diagnose it, it might be the coil pack not sending electricity to all the plugs. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

06-21-2015, 02:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	Ohh vacuumed tube leak maybe, check the hoses connections near and behind engine. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

06-21-2015, 03:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	I just looked at my engine and tried to figure out what could make that sound and its only the throttle bodies electric motor gears might be stripped and the valve is in closed position, where no air is goin to the engine. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

06-21-2015, 02:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	Ah yes, fuses was the first place I went. Kick plate fuses all tested good. Fuses next to battery good including the starter one. Please tell me there is another set I missed, I mean that, I hope it's just a fuse. Dealership is coming to pick up tomorrow but I hate to see what that is going to run

06-21-2015, 02:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	The high pitched humming, almost a buzz, idea of what that may be? Isolated it to the drivers side of the engine bay.

06-21-2015, 03:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,044 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10090	Sorry to suggest it, but seeing as your tow truck driver hooked the battery up wrong, there might be a chance he fried some things, maybe even the alternator

06-21-2015, 03:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	Those are all things I was worried about. Originally I thought it was air in the lines from the sharp turn. Anyone know what side it's on. I took a hard right so the fuel would have been forced to the left. And another weird thing. I had 40-50% fuel when it died. Got 3 gallons in it and then it read little over 1/4.

06-21-2015, 04:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	Ehhh... he might have fried or at least "bricked" the ECU Can you get it on enough to plug a reader into the OBDII port? EDIT: Wait, did you say you took a sharp right hand turn and it died. It's probably fuel starvation then -- there's tons of threads on that. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-21-2015, 04:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	Kick plate fuses and the ones next to the battery are all good. No signs of burn or burn through

06-21-2015, 04:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bauran Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC Posts: 117 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo M6 Rep Power: 12	And literally everything in the car, save the eengine, electronically work. I'm hoping that means the on board computer isn't fubar. Also rocked the car in gear without it skipping over to see if maybe the starter bound, old trick

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