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Huck 12-03-2013 12:37 AM

I saw those on ijdmtoy and was wondering how those might work, honestly for $6 I didn't expect much from them. I'll be interested to hear your opinion of them :tup:

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-04-2013 08:08 AM

Hey guys...there's another thread and I know there was some concern here with the small projector mod for the turn signal getting too hot and bubbling the paint. One theory is the sun reflects down through the lens there and bakes the paint. What would be your thoughts on tinting the projector glass or maybe just the bottom half of it for a remedy?

Huck 12-04-2013 03:40 PM

There's always the chance that I'm wrong but I would think thay the sun coming from the outside of the lens shining into it would not be refracted back outwards but to the inside of the lens (behind the lens).

Zdayz 2014!!

VDC_OFF 12-04-2013 04:42 PM

I have had this problem on every dual halo setup I have done. One solution I am willing to try is using BBQ pit black paint which is meant for high temperatures. I will try this on my next project.

Huck 12-06-2013 12:18 AM

What about just good ole caliper paint? Thats supposed to stand temps of like 5000 degrees isn't it?

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Meulen 12-06-2013 10:37 AM

IDK about the caliper paint. I just sent my lights to the painter. He's going to tint the small flasher lens for me. Between that and using high quality automotive paint I'm hoping it will not be a problem on my lights.

Nut_N_Much 12-08-2013 09:03 AM

Caliper Paint, been there done that.. Because of the high temps it with stands it creates a cooking effect under the paint. Bubbles the plastic underneath, if you have a lens conversion done. Also the finish is a little dull.

AutoTouchUp.com has 3 stage paint to color match your car or a color you like. Primer, Base, Clear Coat. Extremely durable.

Also Krylon Paint is what most of us use.

Another option is HyDro Dip any color design you want, from basic to wild.

Also you can buy a airbrush Gun and us PPG, the best finishes. Need a clean space for it.

Nut_N_Much 12-08-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2593945)
Hey guys...there's another thread and I know there was some concern here with the small projector mod for the turn signal getting too hot and bubbling the paint. One theory is the sun reflects down through the lens there and bakes the paint. What would be your thoughts on tinting the projector glass or maybe just the bottom half of it for a remedy?

My last post was in response to this I meant to post with it. Sorry..

Ya, I have had that issue on my own lights, I swapped out the dual fulfillment bulb and installed LEDs, also swapped out everything else I could with LEDs to cut down on heat.

I never though about the sun baking the lens and focusing the light. Makes sense that could be the issue. I wonder if a lite tint on the front of the lens would fix it.

I can tell you I already tried the high temp paints and it bubbles faster than Krylon. I think we need to come up with a small spacer to fit behind the shroud that pushed the lens back enough that the sun can't reflect off it. Nothing major but 1/4 may fix the issue. Or use a light tint on the face of the lens to cut reflection down.

I am about to rebuild mine with a ton of bells and whistles, I will try it out and see if it can be done. The LED Turn Signal Bulb I use is same length as the stock so I will have 1/2 to play with. I'll take some pictures and see what I come up with.

Anyone want to hook up computer fans to there lights :rofl2: ...

Huck 12-08-2013 09:42 AM

Joe I'm probably gonna just bring all my stuff to you when I have the money for it, I've got all the supplies but I just havent been motivated, and I dont feel like messing with all the wiring lol. I think I'll leave this one to the pros :tup:

Zdayz 2014!!

Huck 12-08-2013 09:43 AM

I want bells and whistles!!

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-08-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nut_N_Much (Post 2599892)
My last post was in response to this I meant to post with it. Sorry..

Ya, I have had that issue on my own lights, I swapped out the dual fulfillment bulb and installed LEDs, also swapped out everything else I could with LEDs to cut down on heat.

I never though about the sun baking the lens and focusing the light. Makes sense that could be the issue. I wonder if a lite tint on the front of the lens would fix it.

I can tell you I already tried the high temp paints and it bubbles faster than Krylon. I think we need to come up with a small spacer to fit behind the shroud that pushed the lens back enough that the sun can't reflect off it. Nothing major but 1/4 may fix the issue. Or use a light tint on the face of the lens to cut reflection down.

I am about to rebuild mine with a ton of bells and whistles, I will try it out and see if it can be done. The LED Turn Signal Bulb I use is same length as the stock so I will have 1/2 to play with. I'll take some pictures and see what I come up with.

Anyone want to hook up computer fans to there lights :rofl2: ...

Computer fans! Lol

I'll take lots of pictures and report back as well. My lights are going to have dual XBs, color changing demon eyes tinted flasher lens and using Automotive paint. It shouldn't be long til I have them back

I also was experimenting with different positions for the demon eye LEDs. I was going to drill holes in the mirror shroud behind the light, but decided to try the weatherproof led strips instead. I'm hoping to stick them on the top edge of the mirror shroud and go around that lip with enough LEDs to put out a good glow and not have to drill anything. When I took my lights apart I found someone had broke that piece and it was dangling free in there broken off the brackets. So I had to epoxy it back together. I'm worried that if I start drilling holes in it it will just break again so trying the strips out.

I'll take lots of pics and post them when I'm done.

Meulen 12-11-2013 08:49 PM

Ok.....

I tested out the led strips. This is 6 LEDs on the inside of the projectors reflective shroud.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/usuqagar.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/sareteze.jpg

I'm just a little worried the 3m tape on the back won't stand up to the heat in there. So may add some adhesive to it

Meulen 12-11-2013 09:23 PM

I hooked it up to a controller and made a little video on my FB page too

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200360584571942

Huck 12-12-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2605433)
Ok.....

I tested out the led strips. This is 6 LEDs on the inside of the projectors reflective shroud.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/usuqagar.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/12/sareteze.jpg

I'm just a little worried the 3m tape on the back won't stand up to the heat in there. So may add some adhesive to it

When you say six LEDs do you mean six of those strips or one strip with the six actual LEDs on it? That looks nice and bright.

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-12-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2605742)
When you say six LEDs do you mean six of those strips or one strip with the six actual LEDs on it? That looks nice and bright.

Zdayz 2014!!

That's 1 strip with 6 LEDs. They come in strips of 15. I covered the rest with the towels for now so you couldn't see them. I'll have to cut them to length of 6 and solder on new wires. I'm connection them all to an RGB controller w/ wireless remote. :tup:

The 6 turns out perfect IMO. It perfectly lines the entire outline of the reflective backing shroud of the headlight projecor. I think what I'm going to do is use the 3m tape to stick it on. Worst case it gets hardened and crusty from the heat. So I'll dab some spots of automotive goo or epoxy strategically along the strip so it stays in place even if the 3m tape goes bad. That way if it all gets too hot and doesn't work I can grind the spots off and not ruin the reflective backing shroud.

Huck 12-12-2013 03:49 PM

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Where did you get the strip from?

Meulen 12-12-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2606885)
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Where did you get the strip from?


http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...ls-rgbx2/1473/

Nut_N_Much 12-12-2013 06:51 PM

Looks great brother.. Nice and crisp, the little 5mm are not even close to that.. Good job. Agree with the 3m, will get hot and come off. :tiphat:

equalme 12-12-2013 07:16 PM

Nut - I used your box method to heat up my headlights...worked wonders and so simple not having to worry about melting it in the oven.

Huck 12-13-2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2606933)

Well dammit, $240? This is getting onto 180customs price range lol... Thanks for the info man!

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-13-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2607512)
Well dammit, $240? This is getting onto 180customs price range lol... Thanks for the info man!

Zdayz 2014!!


Hahaha! Whoops! Try this one. You don't need the whole reel!

http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...wfls-rgb/1472/

VDC_OFF 12-13-2013 10:08 AM

This is what I did for a demon eye mod of a 350z. I just placed a flat led inside of the projector facing the lens. Worked awesom as was a cheap and easy installation due to the 3m backing

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/ahateder.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/qu5uhu8e.jpg


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Meulen 12-13-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF (Post 2607918)
This is what I did for a demon eye mod of a 350z. I just placed a flat led inside of the projector facing the lens. Worked awesom as was a cheap and easy installation due to the 3m backing




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NICE!! If that 3m tape held up there I'm not sure why I'm worried about further back of the HID bulb on the reflective shroud!:tup:

Nut_N_Much 12-15-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equalme (Post 2607166)
Nut - I used your box method to heat up my headlights...worked wonders and so simple not having to worry about melting it in the oven.

Thats awesome bro, It really is easy to do. Just nerve racking the first time :tiphat:. :santasleigh2:

Nut_N_Much 12-15-2013 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF (Post 2607918)
This is what I did for a demon eye mod of a 350z. I just placed a flat led inside of the projector facing the lens. Worked awesom as was a cheap and easy installation due to the 3m backing

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/ahateder.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/qu5uhu8e.jpg


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Man, thats looks so simple, thats what I am doing.. Thanks for the post VDC_OFF. I have a small 3 LED chip, it might be to bright, yours looks perfect. :tiphat:

VDC_OFF 12-15-2013 08:03 AM

Thanks! Here's also another mod you might consider. The new halos from retrofit are thinner than they used to be and tabless. Also the white ones look white when off not yellow. I found some diffuser covers on tmart.com that cover them perfectly. However there is a little bit of cutting you have to do to make them fit on the 370z lights. You have to evenly cut a few mm's of the outer edge of the 90mm and cut the 3 tabs off both but then they look like this. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/aqadydud.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/7ymu6u2u.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/2adate5e.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/udyqu2yz.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/e8uza7ed.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/pehazabe.jpg


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Huck 12-15-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF (Post 2607918)
This is what I did for a demon eye mod of a 350z. I just placed a flat led inside of the projector facing the lens. Worked awesom as was a cheap and easy installation due to the 3m backing

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/ahateder.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/14/qu5uhu8e.jpg


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That looks a lot simpler than drilling for multiple LEDs, do you have a linky for flat LEDs of choice? I would appreciate it!

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-16-2013 02:00 PM

Nice! You have a link to the halos and diffusers?

Nut_N_Much 12-16-2013 05:17 PM

I called RetroFit the other day about the XB's with tabs. I told them I was disappointed they shipped me a set with tabs. The manager said to call and place your order, they carry both (w/Tabs & wo/tabs) and to just let them know. I asked them if they could add that to there drop down menu, he said they would look into it.

That looks nice and clean, That is defiantly a solution to fix the yellowish/green tint the XB's have. Thats awesome man.. :tiphat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF (Post 2610080)
Thanks! Here's also another mod you might consider. The new halos from retrofit are thinner than they used to be and tabless. Also the white ones look white when off not yellow. I found some diffuser covers on tmart.com that cover them perfectly. However there is a little bit of cutting you have to do to make them fit on the 370z lights. You have to evenly cut a few mm's of the outer edge of the 90mm and cut the 3 tabs off both but then they look like this. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/aqadydud.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/7ymu6u2u.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/2adate5e.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/udyqu2yz.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/e8uza7ed.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/15/pehazabe.jpg


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Meulen 12-16-2013 05:37 PM

Crap! I wonder if they will take back my XBs for exchange. I'll have to call.

I got some teasers today from my painter.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/yze3e5e4.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/qyse8uvy.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/gudubane.jpg

Huck 12-16-2013 08:57 PM

Looks good man!

Zdayz 2014!!

VDC_OFF 12-17-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2610147)
That looks a lot simpler than drilling for multiple LEDs, do you have a linky for flat LEDs of choice? I would appreciate it!

Zdayz 2014!!

Little Dot SMD LED Accent Light | Pre Wired LEDs and LED Bolts | Accent Lighting | Super Bright LEDs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2611990)
Nice! You have a link to the halos and diffusers?

Morimoto XB LED Angel Eyes - Accessories from The Retrofit Source Inc
90mm LED Car Angel Eyes Light Protect Cover - Tmart.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nut_N_Much (Post 2612304)
I called RetroFit the other day about the XB's with tabs. I told them I was disappointed they shipped me a set with tabs. The manager said to call and place your order, they carry both (w/Tabs & wo/tabs) and to just let them know. I asked them if they could add that to there drop down menu, he said they would look into it.

That looks nice and clean, That is defiantly a solution to fix the yellowish/green tint the XB's have. Thats awesome man.. :tiphat:

Thanks, you can just leave it in the comments or special instructions when you order. Btw I have seen some variance in color output from some of the tabless. At first they were a bluish white now they seem to be bright white.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 2612329)
Crap! I wonder if they will take back my XBs for exchange. I'll have to call.

They will accept unused halos for credit or exchange

VDC_OFF 12-17-2013 01:15 PM

Another thing to add is that with the diffuser, the diameter of the 70mm is increased greatly. This means you have to shave into the housing a lot and on all three sides. I am now considering 60mm to see if those fit better.

Meulen 12-20-2013 10:29 AM

OK.....

I was a little put off of the yellowish color of the XB's at first. To be honest, now that things are coming together I actually like it! However, my wife wasn't so crazy about it. I know....I know.... you guys probably think that doesn't matter, but the Z is "our" project car. :) Anyway, I looked up those light covers from Tmart. For $10 it was hard not to order them and give it a try. I contacted rhetrofitsource about swapping my XB's for the new White/white ones and they were ok with that. I think I'll just get the 60mm's as opposed to the 70's. My shrouds are already painted and I don't want to do anymore cutting. I've got the covers coming first so I can test fit things before I actually exchange the XB's. I hate to extend this project out anymore, but I want to get this JUST RIGHT, before I put them back together.

thanks everyone for your input, this thread has definitely been a great help!

VDC_OFF 12-20-2013 10:43 AM

Good luck man, Im waiting for my 60mm diffusers to come in the mail as well so I can measure and test them out too.

Huck 12-20-2013 11:30 AM

I wish I had another daily driver so I could open up my lights and take my time playing with them. The way it is now I have two days to open them up do everything perfect and put it all back together.

Zdayz 2014!!

Meulen 12-20-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2618571)
I wish I had another daily driver so I could open up my lights and take my time playing with them. The way it is now I have two days to open them up do everything perfect and put it all back together.

Zdayz 2014!!

I hear ya man!

It's winter here, so I've got the car put away anyhow. Lucky I have a daily driver to get through Chicago winters!!! Time to play is another thing though. I'm also finishing a basement, taking to old dogs back and forth to the vet constantly, helping my wife start a new business, and continue my training for the upcoming triathlon season. I have the time the car can be down, but don't really have the time to play with the lights. Too much other stuff going on right now! :):icon14::ughdance:

Huck 12-20-2013 11:49 AM

Yeah that's a lot on your plate. I'm in the middle of a garage remodel so the place is a wreck. Plus I'm in Florida and it's currently 81* here hahaha, I drive the Z every day.

Zdayz 2014!!

Huck 12-21-2013 06:14 PM

Just ordered 8 red flat mount led's and 8 blue ones, as well as some new drl led's and white turn signal led's for my headlight mod. That will be a lot less drilling and wiring. I also got some "cool white" flat mount led's for some foot well lighting when I open the doors, and maybe something actually on the doors, not sure yet. We have that red reflector thing on the doors, I've been wondering if I could put a light in that thing.

Meulen 12-22-2013 08:00 PM

I just figured out 3 LEDs I the strip lights stuck to the reflective shroud is just about as bright as 6! So I'm sticking them in with 3m tape. I put a little epoxy on the edges to keep it on good and will be drilling 1 small hole in the shroud to run the wires out of.


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