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rhd 04-24-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1683550)
I'm game, a couple of plugs, and some time to experiment... Let's do this.

Find the connectors and well go into production... :hello:

I searched for quite a while with no luck. :rolleyes:

L33T Z34 04-25-2012 08:28 AM

Boomslang.us Reply
 
BoomSlang.us replied to my e-mail on 23 APR 12. He said it wouldn't be profitable for him to create one for the 370Z community. :(

GaleForce 04-25-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by L33T Z34 (Post 1684470)
BoomSlang.us replied to my e-mail on 23 APR 12. He said it wouldn't be profitable for him to create one for the 370Z community. :(

Maybe he can point us in the direction for sourcing plugs?

kenchan 04-25-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L33T Z34 (Post 1684470)
BoomSlang.us replied to my e-mail on 23 APR 12. He said it wouldn't be profitable for him to create one for the 370Z community. :(

if it's less than 500 each i think people will buy? lol :rofl2:

memorylasts 04-25-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1685047)
if it's less than 500 each i think people will buy? lol :rofl2:

I would pay 500 for the damn harness, as it would prevent me from going through potentially multiple locks...

Okay maybe not 500 but still...


this may be able to go directly to the gtr...so it might be more profitable then he thinks.

simota1 04-25-2012 03:22 PM

^^^^ lol..... im not down for a 500 dollar harness hahahahah...
subd!!!!! btw

memorylasts 04-25-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 1685352)
^^^^ lol..... im not down for a 500 dollar harness hahahahah...
subd!!!!! btw

LOL im not either but it is cheaper then a new lock.... :ughdance:

KingZee 04-25-2012 04:00 PM

sub'd

Dwight Frye 04-25-2012 06:10 PM

A harness needs to be under $100.00 Closer to $50 would be better. Otherwise when my warranty runs out I'll just cut the brown wire and live without the lock feature. If someone is going to steal the car they are going to get around the lock anyway.

rhd 04-25-2012 07:27 PM

This is the connector we need to make this go, the closest I have come is sourcing from outside the USA at the thousands of pieces to place an order.

Find some of these, the rest is fairly easy...

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...og/Connect.jpg

GaleForce 04-25-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rhd (Post 1685643)
This is the connector we need to make this go, the closest I have come is sourcing from outside the USA at the thousands of pieces to place an order.

Find some of these, the rest is fairly easy...

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...og/Connect.jpg

Can anyone here negotiate in Chinese? How do you say free sample please?

ChrisSlicks 04-25-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1685688)
Can anyone here negotiate in Chinese? How do you say free sample please?

Those ones were made in Japan so Chinese won't do you any better than English trying to talk to them :)

I found what looked like a compatible part from another manufacturer but it had 16 pins instead of 8 (there are multiple versions with different pin counts from 4 to 40). I'm still researching but if anyone else wants to help dig I found the other one by searching for connectors under "025 series". Also look under "064 series" as that is the metric size.

rhd 04-25-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1685713)
Those ones were made in Japan so Chinese won't do you any better than English trying to talk to them :)

I found what looked like a compatible part from another manufacturer but it had 16 pins instead of 8 (there are multiple versions with different pin counts from 4 to 40). I'm still researching but if anyone else wants to help dig I found the other one by searching for connectors under "025 series".

Need to contact some Japanese Z lovers to get us some! - these ones in the picture are made by Sumitomo Wiring Systems Ltd.

Sumitomo Wiring Systems, Ltd.

GaleForce 04-25-2012 08:57 PM

Hmm, I just figured China made everything now days.

ChrisSlicks 04-25-2012 09:08 PM

This one might work.

http://www.onlinecomponents.com/imag...r1376352_l.jpg

1376352-1 TE CONNECTIVITY / AMP BRAND is on order | Buy 1376352 1 | Onlinecomponents.com

Part Datasheet

LMBmikeZ 04-26-2012 06:47 AM

Bdl99 could probably help us he made all the other plug and play stuff members on here are using. He also started off in the gtr forums and came here second. So this would be right up his alley. I'm going to send him a pm with a link to see if he thinks he could help us all out!

bdl99 04-26-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 1686297)
Bdl99 could probably help us he made all the other plug and play stuff members on here are using. He also started off in the gtr forums and came here second. So this would be right up his alley. I'm going to send him a pm with a link to see if he thinks he could help us all out!

Thanks, I think I can help... Give me 48hrs to confirm, I already have the plugs I just need to check I can get the sockets.

As others have mentioned minimum order quantities are generally the issue. What sort of demand is there for this? I don't want to make a ton of money here but don't want to be stuck with thousands of connectors either.

Would $50-70 be a reasonable price? I need to confirm the prices and qty of connectors before committing to that. That may seen expensive but the issue is the quantity, if we want 10K I can probably get it down to more like $5

Ni55anPat 04-26-2012 03:26 PM

FOR 50-70$ I would def. buy

Baer383 04-26-2012 03:36 PM

Fvck it cut it up.:excited:

simota1 04-26-2012 03:37 PM

im in for that price.... as long as it isnt 150 or more lol im in

kenchan 04-26-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1687474)
Fvck it cut it up.:excited:

:icon18: honestly, that's wat i would do. and as fritz mentioned, just put a spade connector in place just incase i want the feature turned back on for some unknown crazy f-ked up reason. :icon17:

memorylasts 04-26-2012 04:32 PM

In!

SPOHN 04-26-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1687474)
Fvck it cut it up.:excited:

:iagree: I couldl be fine with that method.

But I would purchase the connector also. My problem lies with no other person has done this to help me feel better about this isssue. I also wish the OP would post pics.

LMBmikeZ 04-26-2012 06:51 PM

I knew you could come through! Thanks yet again bdl99!!! I know this is going to be in high demand!

bdl99 04-26-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1687262)
Thanks, I think I can help... Give me 48hrs to confirm, I already have the plugs I just need to check I can get the sockets.

As others have mentioned minimum order quantities are generally the issue. What sort of demand is there for this? I don't want to make a ton of money here but don't want to be stuck with thousands of connectors either.

Would $50-70 be a reasonable price? I need to confirm the prices and qty of connectors before committing to that. That may seen expensive but the issue is the quantity, if we want 10K I can probably get it down to more like $5

Ok, I have an order already in progress for other connectors so I'm going to add a few samples of the female connector. I'm still aiming for the target prices of $50.

I know it doesn't matter, but what color are the other wires? Does anyone have a photo of the plug showing the wires? I know it is anal but I will make the extension harness with the same colors as the original if I know what color they are.

The suggestion was 8-10in of wire between the plug and socket, with the brown wire there but will probably supply pre-cut. I will offer LMBmikeZ one of the first kits if he wants it because he was the one who contacted me, who else is in on $50 beta units?

LMBmikeZ 04-26-2012 06:55 PM

:happydance:And I happily accepted that offer!!!:tup:

SiXK 04-26-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1687837)
who else is in on $50 beta units?

I'll buy one.

Mike 04-26-2012 07:11 PM

I'll take one

KaienZ34 04-26-2012 07:34 PM

If we can confrim that it works i'll be in.

SPOHN 04-26-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1687881)
If we can confrim that it works i'll be in.

:iagree:

GaleForce 04-26-2012 08:27 PM

Yes, exactly this.^^^ A mass order for plugs is a little premature, some testing/experimenting needs to be done first.

ChrisSlicks 04-26-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1687837)
The suggestion was 8-10in of wire between the plug and socket, with the brown wire there but will probably supply pre-cut. I will offer LMBmikeZ one of the first kits if he wants it because he was the one who contacted me, who else is in on $50 beta units?

I'll take one, since I can't find the connectors easily I'll be using it for lock removal bypass experiments. If I get it figured out you can make and sell that one too.

I will do the brown wire (pin 1) cut on Saturday to confirm Fritz's findings.

bdl99 04-26-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 1687839)
:happydance:And I happily accepted that offer!!!:tup:

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger (Post 1687853)
I'll buy one.

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1687857)
I'll take one

OK, that will be the first three test kits.

bdl99 04-26-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1687944)
Yes, exactly this.^^^ A mass order for plugs is a little premature, some testing/experimenting needs to be done first.

Maybe I'm missing something, but hasn't the testing already been done by a couple of folks and by physically cutting the wire?

I haven't placed a mass order for plugs, I have added a few connectors to an existing order. I'm going to make three and go from there.

memorylasts 04-26-2012 09:55 PM

IN!

GaleForce 04-26-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1687881)
If we can confrim that it works i'll be in.

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1687887)
:iagree:

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1688068)
Maybe I'm missing something, but hasn't the testing already been done by a couple of folks and by physically cutting the wire?

I haven't placed a mass order for plugs, I have added a few connectors to an existing order. I'm going to make three and go from there.

I know of one person who has done this (the OP). Others have talked about doing it, but nobody has reported their findings. After doing some digging around the service manual and with the OP's finding I was going to do some testing myself, but I wanted to try to source out the plugs so I could do my testing without cutting up my wire harness.

Mike 04-26-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1688062)
OK, that will be the first three test kits.

awesome!!!!!!:happydance:

AUtigers370z 04-26-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1687837)
who else is in on $50 beta units?

I'm down for the second batch if the first 3 beta units work out!

Ridgerunner 04-26-2012 11:05 PM

So is this the scenario if the dummy plug works?

Unlock steering wheel, unplug steering lock connector, put new dummy connector plug with brown pin disabled in between steering lock and current connector.

Steering lock now set permanently unlocked. If so desired, you can return to stock setting by removing dummy plug and reconnecting steering lock with original connector.

Nice and neat, no wires to cut

Boost_lee 04-26-2012 11:36 PM

I'm also in if it works


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