Nissan 370Z Forum  

DIY: Nissan 370Z Oil change (AK370Z way) Pictures inside

Are you guys using torque wrenches to tighten those plugs? 25ft-lbs and I've never stripped one.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > DIY Section (Do-It-Yourself)


Like Tree100Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2011, 06:42 AM   #511 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

Are you guys using torque wrenches to tighten those plugs? 25ft-lbs and I've never stripped one.
__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 08:39 AM   #512 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FricFrac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 1,481
Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240
Rep Power: 228
FricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond reputeFricFrac has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to FricFrac
Default

Forget about the oil plug that strips your pan. Just grab a couple of neodynium magnets from an old hard drive and slap them up agains your oil filter. Simple, effective and cheap. Way stronger than the oil plug as well.
__________________
'09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //
FricFrac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 10:45 AM   #513 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
onzedge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Battle Lake MN
Age: 63
Posts: 183,964
Drives: 370Z 240Z
Rep Power: 2684736
onzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond reputeonzedge has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Do not over-tighten and you cannot strip the pan.
__________________
Koni|Swift|Michelin|Motordyne|Berk|RJM Performance|Gates|SPL|Motul|Technafit|Ate Super Blue|Hawk
Tommy Kaira|Momo|Optima|Hella|Hotchkis|Red Line|ZSpeed|Stillen|B&M|H&R
onzedge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2011, 01:03 AM   #514 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 2,359
Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport
Rep Power: 20
ZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud ofZForce has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
Are you guys using torque wrenches to tighten those plugs? 25ft-lbs and I've never stripped one.
Hand tighten and then a quarter more turn, just snug enough. Honestly I think the tech over tightened the one that stripped. The additional heat may have contributed to the plug stripping. IMO... aluminum and steel do not mate well.

Dimple STEEL magnetic drain plug

MAGNETIC DRAIN PLUGS

.
ZForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2011, 04:37 PM   #515 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: VA
Posts: 115
Drives: 2010 370z Sport
Rep Power: 14
370Fan2000 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for taking the time to make this tutorial. Just did the oil change today.
370Fan2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2011, 05:38 PM   #516 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 62
Drives: '04 TSX, '10 370ZR
Rep Power: 15
vifferman is on a distinguished road
Default

First, thanks AK for your excellent post. I've changed my own oil for some 45 years (really) and while I have the FSM, and knew what to do, your photos ensured confidence and a clear understanding of the position of things, et al -big help. Thank you. Now - the good, bad & ugly of my 4/30/11 experience...

1) Removed the air deflectors and raised my 2010 Z Roadster onto the Rhino Ramps (2x4s in front for clearance insurance). No issues.

2) Open hood & loosened the oil filler cap (many forget this step). Chose to remove the four rearward bolts and lower the access flap rather than to go thru the pain of full belly pan removal. It works, but the lowered flap is a considerable hinderance to easy access, so I may follow AK's lead in the future.

3) Because of the awkward access (had to reach from below rather than from above), the drain plug removal resulted in my first significant "beyond-the-pan" spill in 45 years. Big mess, but I always place an absorbant pad under the drain pan (in this case, an old mattress pad), so no permanent concrete stains or the like. Still - big mess with inordinate clean-up time - ARGH!

4) Waited till oil had drained to a painfully slow drip, then replaced the drain plug (w/new washer) & filter. Based on others' reports of overfills with 5 quarts, I added roughly 4.8 quarts of fresh Nissan Ester to bring it to within about 1/4 inch of the 'full mark.' Perfect IMO, and still there after several drives.

Notes & Observations: 1) IMO - all the magnetic stuff (drain plug & filter attachment) is largely unnecessary snake oil. If it makes you feel better, do it (it will do no harm), but regular oil/filter changes will likely serve you well enough sans the snake oil. 2) If you must use a magnetic drain plug, buy one made of steel, as aluminum plug threads are commonly subject to failure (stripping) against the stronger steel oil pan mounts. 3) And, no offense intended to AK, whether you use an aluminum or steel drain plug, AK's stated positioning of the OEM crush washer is wrong. It may mean little, but the proper position of the copper crush washer (per Nissan) is for the dimpled side to be screwed on against the bolt seat , with the larger flat surface to mate with the oil pan surface.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 274027127.jpg (94.7 KB, 15063 views)
vifferman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2011, 04:23 PM   #517 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 62
Drives: '04 TSX, '10 370ZR
Rep Power: 15
vifferman is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
First, thanks AK for your excellent post. I've changed my own oil for some 45 years (really) and while I have the FSM, and knew what to do, your photos ensured confidence and a clear understanding of the position of things, et al -big help. Thank you. Now - the good, bad & ugly of my 4/30/11 experience...

1) Removed the air deflectors and raised my 2010 Z Roadster onto the Rhino Ramps (2x4s in front for clearance insurance). No issues.

2) Open hood & loosened the oil filler cap (many forget this step). Chose to remove the four rearward bolts and lower the access flap rather than to go thru the pain of full belly pan removal. It works, but the lowered flap is a considerable hinderance to easy access, so I may follow AK's lead in the future.

3) Because of the awkward access (had to reach from below rather than from above), the drain plug removal resulted in my first significant "beyond-the-pan" spill in 45 years. Big mess, but I always place an absorbant pad under the drain pan (in this case, an old mattress pad), so no permanent concrete stains or the like. Still - big mess with inordinate clean-up time - ARGH!

4) Waited till oil had drained to a painfully slow drip, then replaced the drain plug (w/new washer) & filter. Based on others' reports of overfills with 5 quarts, I added roughly 4.8 quarts of fresh Nissan Ester to bring it to within about 1/4 inch of the 'full mark.' Perfect IMO, and still there after several drives.

Notes & Observations: 1) IMO - all the magnetic stuff (drain plug & filter attachment) is largely unnecessary snake oil. If it makes you feel better, do it (it will do no harm), but regular oil/filter changes will likely serve you well enough sans the snake oil. 2) If you must use a magnetic drain plug, buy one made of steel, as aluminum plug threads are commonly subject to failure (stripping) against the stronger steel oil pan mounts. 3) And, no offense intended to AK, whether you use an aluminum or steel drain plug, AK's stated positioning of the OEM crush washer is wrong. It may mean little, but the proper position of the copper crush washer (per Nissan) is for the dimpled side to be screwed on against the bolt seat , with the larger flat surface to mate with the oil pan surface.
Addendum - this was my ZR's first oil/filter change. Didn't trust the dealer to do it, so took the free oil & filter to do the job myself. Still, I must admit that at age 63 with some health issues, I'm getting too old for such painful obsessive-compulsive behavior. I ached for three days - Ha! Had the dealer been willing to ignore the OSHA rules and allow me to watch, I'd have let them do it in a heartbeat, but they wouldn't allow it. I have an enthusiast acquaintance who owns an independent auto repair shop, so may approach him with a similar proposition ("I'll pay a premium if you allow me under the rack to oversee the job"). I really don't want to deal with the mess anymore, but still not willing to give up on my perfectionist ways.
vifferman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2011, 07:09 PM   #518 (permalink)
Base Member
 
1Sweet Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 185
Drives: 11 GM 370Z A7 Spt/Nv
Rep Power: 14
1Sweet Z is on a distinguished road
Default

So I had my oil changed at the dealership at 2000km just after the break-in period. I purchased the Titek magnetic drain plug and had them install it.
I had them install Mobil 1 synthetic. I am a little suspicious that they may not have changed the oil at all. I did get the OE drain back, so maybe they did swap drain plugs. I surely hope they put a new copper crush ring on.

I was checking the oil level frequently for the first 2k and noticed some black carbon in the oil. Even after the oil change, I have this black carbon. Now I know it is a by-product of combustion, I just assumed it was under higher rpm's... Am I over thinking this?

I guess the best way to know is do your own oil change.
__________________
V-LED : ILLUM KICK PLATES : VENTURE SHIELD : H & R : K & N : GOODRIDGE SS BRAKE LINES : NISMO CBE
1Sweet Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 08:49 AM   #519 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Billarf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 132
Drives: .
Rep Power: 15
Billarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura about
Default

Repost of something I have posted before:

Personally, I think the best way to go is the FilterMag SS250 Oil Filter Magnet versus a small surface area, magnetized drain plug. Also, rather then fooling with a drain plug at all/worrying about stripping same, consider replacing your stock drain plug with a Fumoto valve..the best.... if you want to attach a hose to the Fumoto do order a Fumoto that has a nipple on it for hose attachment. (not all Fumoto's have a nipple) Futmoto's part# will have an "N" in it indicating "nipple" if it has a nipple. The Fumoto comes with a fiber gasket. Use the included gasket alone on the install.

For the '09 - '11 370Z use the F103N Fumoto valve.








Best place to buy price wise is from an eBAY vendor. They do not leak and are very well made. A terrific adjunct. 8-) I've used them on numerous vehicles over the last few years.
Billarf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 08:52 AM   #520 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Billarf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 132
Drives: .
Rep Power: 15
Billarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura about
Default

snipe:
Quote:
Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
the proper position of the copper crush washer (per Nissan) is for the dimpled side to be screwed on against the bolt seat , with the larger flat surface to mate with the oil pan surface.

Those reading this thread should look carefully at the crush washer in this pic and install your crush washer the same. The pic shows proper install/placement of the crush washer..


Last edited by Billarf; 05-15-2011 at 06:40 PM.
Billarf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 03:29 PM   #521 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 62
Drives: '04 TSX, '10 370ZR
Rep Power: 15
vifferman is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billarf View Post
snipe:



Those reading this thread should look carefully at the crunch washer in this pic and install your crunch washer the same. The pic shows proper install/placement of the crunch washer..

That would be crush washer, not "crunch" washer.
vifferman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 03:40 PM   #522 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billarf View Post
For the '09 - '11 370Z use the F103N Fumoto valve.
With my oil pan spacer installed the oil pan's already hanging a bit low for me, could someone with an F103 tell me how much past the level of the bottom of the oil pan this valve sticks out (assuming the no-nipple model)? I know our drain plug hole is at an angle, is it enough of an angle to keep the F103's body from reducing my ground clearance further?
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 04:07 PM   #523 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 62
Drives: '04 TSX, '10 370ZR
Rep Power: 15
vifferman is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZForce View Post
Hand tighten and then a quarter more turn, just snug enough. Honestly I think the tech over tightened the one that stripped. The additional heat may have contributed to the plug stripping. IMO... aluminum and steel do not mate well.

Dimple STEEL magnetic drain plug

MAGNETIC DRAIN PLUGS

.
Sorry, but if you're using Nissan's copper crush washer, a quarter turn after hand-tightening won't even begin to properly crush the washer. As I recall, it's more like 1.5 turns before the plug seats.
vifferman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 06:38 PM   #524 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Billarf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 132
Drives: .
Rep Power: 15
Billarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura aboutBillarf has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
That would be crush washer, not "crunch" washer.

Yup, mean't to say "crush washer" not crunch washer.

Last edited by Billarf; 05-15-2011 at 06:41 PM.
Billarf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2011, 07:58 PM   #525 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SPOHN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Covington, GA
Age: 45
Posts: 14,844
Drives: Waiting on next Z
Rep Power: 221
SPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond reputeSPOHN has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billarf View Post
Repost of something I have posted before:

Personally, I think the best way to go is the FilterMag SS250 Oil Filter Magnet versus a small surface area, magnetized drain plug. Also, rather then fooling with a drain plug at all/worrying about stripping same, consider replacing your stock drain plug with a Fumoto valve..the best.... if you want to attach a hose to the Fumoto do order a Fumoto that has a nipple on it for hose attachment. (not all Fumoto's have a nipple) Futmoto's part# will have an "N" in it indicating "nipple" if it has a nipple. The Fumoto comes with a fiber gasket. Use the included gasket alone on the install.

For the '09 - '11 370Z use the F103N Fumoto valve.








Best place to buy price wise is from an eBAY vendor. They do not leak and are very well made. A terrific adjunct. 8-) I've used them on numerous vehicles over the last few years.
I wouldn't be comfortable with this. I work around valves and they always fail eventually.
__________________
SPOHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Headlight Mod for 370z - Real Pictures Inside nogoodname Exterior & Interior 190 02-20-2012 02:36 PM
AK370Z's Monterey Blue 370Z AK370Z Member's 370Z Gallery 144 09-20-2010 03:28 PM
Nissan 370Z Convertible pictures Leaked? 01.24.09 AK370Z Nissan 370Z General Discussions 7 01-24-2009 05:46 AM
Edmunds.com: 2009 Nissan 370Z Inside Line Party and Video 11.16.08 AK370Z Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 9 11-19-2008 11:19 AM
Nissan USA releases Official Nissan 370Z pictures 10.29.08 AK370Z Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 15 11-10-2008 08:17 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2