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zefaulter 02-19-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2699216)
:confused: so are you happy or mad?

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GaleForce 02-19-2014 11:43 AM

Nice sig Zefaulter :tup:

zefaulter 02-19-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2699487)
Nice sig Zefaulter :tup:

It's nice because your in it! :D

GaleForce 02-19-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2699510)
It's nice because your in it! :D

Yes, and I like the composition.

An added bonus is Alex's vert. :tup:

LMBmikeZ 02-19-2014 09:31 PM

:iagree: Sweet sig :tup:

zefaulter 02-19-2014 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2700131)
:iagree: Sweet sig :tup:

Thanks Mike ;)

Amuse370z 02-20-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2699401)

Yea I'm mad af.

I might as well wrap the whole thing, why bother painting it for $2600. I'm going to ask Velocity next, and I have a couple other shops in mind if they don't give me the quote that I want for exhaust/coils/kit.

If you guys know anyone who can give me good deals + paint match the PW, let me know. ;)

:tiphat:

zefaulter 02-20-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 2700339)
Yea I'm mad af.

I might as well wrap the whole thing, why bother painting it for $2600. I'm going to ask Velocity next, and I have a couple other shops in mind if they don't give me the quote that I want for exhaust/coils/kit.

If you guys know anyone who can give me good deals + paint match the PW, let me know. ;)

:tiphat:

PW Is a little harder to paint and match as far as I know. I'll PM you what it cost me

GaleForce 02-20-2014 06:57 AM

$2600 to remove wrap, prep, paint, fit and install isn't a bad price for a complete Amuse kit.

zefaulter 02-20-2014 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2700391)
$2600 to remove wrap, prep, paint, fit and install isn't a bad price for a complete Amuse kit.

this is a previously installed kit, I assume it'll be easier to fit.

Amuse370z, why don't you ask how much it'll cost to do the job if the wrap is removed(you could do it yourself)

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2700391)
$2600 to remove wrap, prep, paint, fit and install isn't a bad price for a complete Amuse kit.

:iagree: to many people are looking for the cheapest work possible, this is not always the best idea IMO. I see it in my trade all the time as well, I am an electrician people want the best price for the best work but those two things do not go hand in hand. In the end you are better off to get it done right and pay a little more for quality work. If you want cheap I know a guy who does body work and paint out of a shop out back of his house, however I wouldn't take my Z to him DD sure Z/hobby car no :ugh2:

Just for comparison have you inquired to see how much it is to get your car repainted(from a good shop)? I bet it is a lot more then you would expect :ugh2: but hey you can always go to Maaco :roflpuke2:

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2700454)
this is a previously installed kit, I assume it'll be easier to fit.

Amuse370z, why don't you ask how much it'll cost to do the job if the wrap is removed(you could do it yourself)

fitment might be easy but you gotta remember once the vinyl is stripped off then the parts still need to be fully prepped for paint again. They will not be able to just peel it off and paint it as is, that would look like sh!t!

zefaulter 02-20-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2700517)
:iagree: to many people are looking for the cheapest work possible, this is not always the best idea IMO. I see it in my trade all the time as well, I am an electrician people want the best price for the best work but those two things do not go hand in hand. In the end you are better off to get it done right and pay a little more for quality work. If you want cheap I know a guy who does body work and paint out of a shop out back of his house, however I wouldn't take my Z to him DD sure Z/hobby car no :ugh2:

Just for comparison have you inquired to see how much it is to get your car repainted(from a good shop)? I bet it is a lot more then you would expect :ugh2: but hey you can always go to Maaco :roflpuke2:

there are companies that charge an arm and a leg for electrical work. you can't compare good work with cheap work:iagree:. But, you should always shop around so you don't get ripped off.

There was a company that wanted $9k for a few things done around my house. that included panel change/upgrade, 6 pot light upgrade, two lights for backyard and a sensor for staircase. I ended up getting a licensed individual(not a company) who did the work for Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less.

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2700519)
fitment might be easy but you gotta remember once the vinyl is stripped off then the parts still need to be fully prepped for paint again. They will not be able to just peel it off and paint it as is, that would look like sh!t!

true and I didn't say anything about full prep. It's a lot more involved than it looks.

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2700535)
there are companies that charge an arm and a leg for electrical work. you can't compare good work with cheap work:iagree:. But, you should always shop around so you don't get ripped off.

There was a company that wanted $9k for a few things done around my house. that included panel change/upgrade, 6 pot light upgrade, two lights for backyard and a sensor for staircase. I ended up getting a licensed individual(not a company) who did the work for Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less.


I fully understand that as it is my line of work, but you should let you know the price you got was so high because you get a guarantee with the company and they pull all the permits and paper work associated with your upgrade, you can also sleep well knowing there were no short cuts and there is a company name attached to it. what the licensed guy did was illegal and they could have lost their license if he was caught or if anything went wrong :ugh2: I am one to talk because I also take on side work but I pick and choose who I do it for where as some of my co-workers just advertise online and take on anyone and everyone :shakes head: at least know the person or know the person that recommended you to that person. IMO that's playing with fire when you advertise online how do they now they didn't just take a job from an ESA inspector? then show up with your tools and boom your already done here come the fines etc….

guaranteed quality work comes with a price……..

just :twocents: to :stirthepot:

to tell you the truth $9k sounds about right for what you had done if it was a company. sure side job I could probably do it for 40% of that price but again there is no guarantee with a side job guy and you are then required to pass the work off as your own for the inspector and hydro company before they will turn your power back on :ugh2:

Ontopic: I will be surprised if the price is much better then $2600, anything <$2000 and I would be skeptical……. could turn into more when you go in to pick it up! "well we had to do more of this _______" don't forget elite concepts currently has the kit at their shop and they know what will be required to get this back to "like new" he has been able to go over the kit and knows what is needed. Not to mention you are also getting coil overs and exhaust instal which I know doesn't cost that much but it does add to the total :ugh2:

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2700535)
true and I didn't say anything about full prep. It's a lot more involved than it looks.

OIC, but the prep is what will be the majority of the cost, that and the painting. There will be a lot of sanding needed to get it looking good!

Ire 02-20-2014 04:12 PM

for a PW car I'd just repaint everything. if its even a tiny bit off it will be very obvious. if you're going to spend, might as well make everything perfect else it will drive you insane.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten
btw anyone down for a headlight modding day when it warms up. i need to black mine out

zefaulter 02-20-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ire (Post 2701209)
for a PW car I'd just repaint everything. if its even a tiny bit off it will be very obvious. if you're going to spend, might as well make everything perfect else it will drive you insane.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten
btw anyone down for a headlight modding day when it warms up. i need to black mine out

**** Yea! I'm in, let's do it... Just let me know when so I can get the paint and halo in advance

Luciano13 02-20-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ire (Post 2701209)
for a PW car I'd just repaint everything. if its even a tiny bit off it will be very obvious. if you're going to spend, might as well make everything perfect else it will drive you insane.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten
btw anyone down for a headlight modding day when it warms up. i need to black mine out

U can bet every penny u have that statement is the truth of truly the true way our brain think.:icon14:
Spend the extra $$ to make it right:tup:

Luciano13 02-20-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2701304)
**** Yea! I'm in, let's do it... Just let me know when so I can get the paint and halo in advance

Wait u painting 40th QuartZ? I need may need parts painted too:confused:

zefaulter 02-20-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2701367)
Wait u painting 40th QuartZ? I need may need parts painted too:confused:

I haven't decided actually. What would look good with our colour?

Luciano13 02-20-2014 05:45 PM

I need body pARTS in 40th quartz, but if we're doing headlights.... I would be in on doing mine over. 1/4 of my L.E.D.s are burnt out:eek: and change the silver since my rims are now satin black:icon23:

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2701368)
I haven't decided actually. What would look good with our colour?

black or 40 quartz :tup:

or both! I want to do black housing and projectors in 40 quartz

zefaulter 02-20-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2701532)
black or 40 quartz :tup:

or both! I want to do black housing and projectors in 40 quartz

I Like the way you think :tup:

Amuse370z 02-20-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2700519)
fitment might be easy but you gotta remember once the vinyl is stripped off then the parts still need to be fully prepped for paint again. They will not be able to just peel it off and paint it as is, that would look like sh!t!

True, I suppose I'll buy a heat gun to take the wrap off first, because it doesn't peel off easily at all.

If its over $2K for everything, I'm going to seriously consider wrapping it as much as I like my PW.


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Originally Posted by Ire (Post 2701209)
for a PW car I'd just repaint everything. if its even a tiny bit off it will be very obvious. if you're going to spend, might as well make everything perfect else it will drive you insane.
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten
btw anyone down for a headlight modding day when it warms up. i need to black mine out

Quality is always my main priority, but I'm not getting ripped off. I think $2600 is crazy, but I will have to ask around to see if I am right about that. I don't know if it makes a difference that your car is black, but I'm sure it is nowhere close to that figure to get your car painted.

Oh and I am so down to do the headlights, I'm just too scared to tear apart the thing. :rofl2:

EDIT: I'm going to get getting rid of my spare EVO-R red foglight and maybe the OEM one in the summer. I paid $130+ for the EVO-Rs from Jay himself on Ebay a year ago. Give me a reasonable offer :)

LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 2701551)
True, I suppose I'll buy a heat gun to take the wrap off first, because it doesn't peel off easily at all.

If its over $2K for everything, I'm going to seriously consider wrapping it as much as I like my PW.




Quality is always my main priority, but I'm not getting ripped off. I think $2600 is crazy, but I will have to ask around to see if I am right about that. I don't know if it makes a difference that your car is black, but I'm sure it is nowhere close to that figure to get your car painted.

Oh and I am so down to do the headlights, I'm just too scared to tear apart the thing. :rofl2:

O no man! stay PW!

PW + amuse is sexy! that is the one setup I would go with over my 40th with amuse :yum:

Ire 02-20-2014 08:15 PM

stay Pearl White
i told you many times i often wish my car was white.
white is the best colour for the amuse kit because objectively it shows off the curves the best. Its also the easiest to compliment with either black or real CF.
black is just good for that mean look at night. in the day its pug fugly
the only downside to PW is fallout, but its manageable if you dont live downtown.
couple things:
WRAP
a heat gun wont help you take off wrap. there are easier ways to do it. a heat gun might make it even harder if you don't know what you're doing. im currently wrapping a friends car (and unwrapping another one), so i can help you (and it wont cost $2600 lmao)
FOG LIGHT
i already bought the rear fog light. i installed it but im not sure why its not working. i just said fuckit and stored the car. i havent gotten around to checking the wiring. will do so asap.
HEADLIGHTS
2 G35/37 guys are doing thier headlights this summer as soon as we can have a BBQ. They bought osrams and TSX clear lenses (which im kicking myself for not going in with that group buy)... I'll be blacking out my headlights at the same time (either that or making it bronze and smoking the lenses... I've yet to decide)

does anyone know a good way to mount my front plate?
i got another ******* ticket moving the car down the street... ITS LIKE THERE ARE COPS WAITING OUTSIDE MY HOUSE 24/7 FFFFFUUUUUU
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LMBmikeZ 02-20-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ire (Post 2701596)
stay Pearl White
i told you many times i often wish my car was white.
white is the best colour for the amuse kit because objectively it shows off the curves the best. Its also the easiest to compliment with either black or real CF.
black is just good for that mean look at night. in the day its pug fugly
the only downside to PW is fallout, but its manageable if you don't live downtown.

does anyone know a good way to mount my front plate?
i got another ******* ticket moving the car down the street... ITS LIKE THERE ARE COPS WAITING OUTSIDE MY HOUSE 24/7 FFFFFUUUUUU

:iagree: white would be my choice too!


as for the front plate you could do something like simota1 did with his, he made a longer bar for the stillen bracket I know the stillen bracket needs to be modified for amuse fronts

Amuse370z 02-20-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ire (Post 2701596)
stay Pearl White
i told you many times i often wish my car was white.
white is the best colour for the amuse kit because objectively it shows off the curves the best. Its also the easiest to compliment with either black or real CF.
black is just good for that mean look at night. in the day its pug fugly
the only downside to PW is fallout, but its manageable if you dont live downtown.
couple things:
WRAP
a heat gun wont help you take off wrap. there are easier ways to do it. a heat gun might make it even harder if you don't know what you're doing. im currently wrapping a friends car (and unwrapping another one), so i can help you (and it wont cost $2600 lmao)

Don't get me wrong, I love pearl white, I will never forget the moment when I first saw my car shining in the sun at the dealer all washed up waiting for me. But I wouldn't mind a more extreme colour. ;)

Black looks very nice when it is clean and shiny, my old car was black and my brother's current Genesis is also black.

The main problem is moving the parts, you don't even know how much trouble it was for me to get the bumpers back to my place.


My foglight offer is to any one out there, brand new red EVO-R foglight. I'm looking add a little cash to trade for Evo-R CF B-pillars as well :)

Luciano13 02-21-2014 04:23 AM

My understanding is the pearl white and 40th quartz are twice the price because of its high quality.

zefaulter 02-21-2014 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2701874)
My understanding is the pearl white and 40th quartz are twice the price because of its high quality.

40th is not

Luciano13 02-21-2014 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2701880)
40th is not

Then i got ripped off with the nismo s tune front nose.... It was twice the price as the rest, just like the pearl white was too.:icon14:

LMBmikeZ 02-21-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2702000)
Then i got ripped off with the nismo s tune front nose.... It was twice the price as the rest, just like the pearl white was too.:icon14:

:icon14: that sucks, I was under the understanding that 40th was a more in-depth process just like most pearl paints which end up costing more :ugh2:

I haven't had anything repainted yet but will need some touch ups in the next couple years :tup:

zefaulter 02-21-2014 09:46 AM

My basement is flooded... :( Anyone knows any contractor or specialist?

Luciano13 02-21-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2702308)
My basement is flooded... :( Anyone knows any contractor or specialist?

Holy Dikk:icon14:
You guys ok?
What exactly do u need?
is your basement drains plugged or do u have a sub-pump???
Or worse case.... are your walls/foundation leaking water into your basement??

Luciano13 02-21-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2702200)
:icon14: that sucks, I was under the understanding that 40th was a more in-depth process just like most pearl paints which end up costing more :ugh2:

I haven't had anything repainted yet but will need some touch ups in the next couple years :tup:

I know that 40th quartz is more expensive than normal 370z paint. its equal to the pearl white. buying it VS paying someone to paint something is 2 different things. I can buy a colour match spray can for the same price as magnetic black. however if I go to get something painted, it will be twice the price for the "painter" to spray....
I've experienced it already

zakimak 02-21-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2703067)
I know that 40th quartz is more expensive than normal 370z paint. its equal to the pearl white. buying it VS paying someone to paint something is 2 different things. I can buy a colour match spray can for the same price as magnetic black. however if I go to get something painted, it will be twice the price for the "painter" to spray....
I've experienced it already

One thing about those single stage without hardener spray cans is that they lack flex agent. The spray clear is same. Without it, on the bumper it would soon look like the moon peppered with chips. I would get proper stuff from PPG or equivalent rent a booth and do it properly. Then there's the compounding and wet sand, polishing...lots of work to get things done right. now thinking about it, i would just have it done by the pros saving the aggravation

LMBmikeZ 02-21-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zakimak (Post 2703121)
One thing about those single stage without hardener spray cans is that they lack flex agent. The spray clear is same. Without it, on the bumper it would soon look like the moon peppered with chips. I would get proper stuff from PPG or equivalent rent a booth and do it properly. Then there's the compounding and wet sand, polishing...lots of work to get things done right. now thinking about it, i would just have it done by the pros saving the aggravation

:iagree: this is why I don't understand why people always b!tch and think a paint job should be cheaper then they are. It's because a good one will actually take a lot more work to have it done properly, the wet sanding alone is hours worth of labour!

sure shop around get the best deal but make sure you ask the right questions and know that they are taking all the proper steps not just some hack job……

zefaulter 02-21-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2703054)
Holy Dikk:icon14:
You guys ok?
What exactly do u need?
is your basement drains plugged or do u have a sub-pump???
Or worse case.... are your walls/foundation leaking water into your basement??

All good for now, just a really tiring day at home. water seeped behind a window and went under. had to tear down walls, insulation and carpet. I will need to let it dry for a week and rebuild the inside. around $1k damage so far. It could have been way worse:ugh2:

LMBmikeZ 02-21-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 2703391)
All good for now, just a really tiring day at home. water seeped behind a window and went under. had to tear down walls, insulation and carpet. I will need to let it dry for a week and rebuild the inside. around $1k damage so far. It could have been way worse:ugh2:

damn that sucks dude! after I read your post today I went out a shovelled one of my basement window so no snow would leak in through there I am in a new house so windows shouldn't leak…. but I figured I might as well clear out the side that the snow drifts up on :ugh2:

I am happy to hear it isn't going to be super expensive however if it was a lot then at least you could actually use your insurance :ugh2:

zefaulter 02-21-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 2703067)
I know that 40th quartz is more expensive than normal 370z paint. its equal to the pearl white. buying it VS paying someone to paint something is 2 different things. I can buy a colour match spray can for the same price as magnetic black. however if I go to get something painted, it will be twice the price for the "painter" to spray....
I've experienced it already

from what I understand, PW is a three stage paint. Isn't 40th single stage?


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