Suspension 2.5" lower... or more?

onzedge · 07-18-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

You can get spacers for $55 a pair. Like I said in another thread, it's just some milled aluminum with wheel studs. It's the camber arms that are expensive, but they pop up in our classifieds section quite a bit.

IMO, you could probably get away with not using a camber kit if you are dropping with Swifts. Your alignment won't be perfect, but it won't be that far off either.

Not to be difficult, but I personally know more than 2 dozen Z's with Swifts and not one could get in sec without aftermarket camber arms. Yes, you can get close, sort of, on the camber angle, but not the camber and toe simultaneously with stock parts.

And -- $55.00 for a pair of spacers and you are buying junk. Expect AT LEAST 120.00 or so for a pair. Do not skimp on suspension parts. Duh. They are holding your car up.

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njobe89 · 07-18-2014, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Not to be difficult, but I personally know more than 2 dozen Z's with Swifts and not one could get in sec without aftermarket camber arms. Yes, you can get close, sort of, on the camber angle, but not the camber and toe simultaneously with stock parts.

And -- $55.00 for a pair of spacers and you are buying junk. Expect AT LEAST 120.00 or so for a pair. Do not skimp on suspension parts. Duh. They are holding your car up.

onzedge™ has written

z1 has them going for $88.

by the time you add up springs+spacers+camber arms it almost equals out to coilovers. so now i'm at cross roads lol is it better to save up another few hundred bucks and get coilovers? i still only want to drop my car an about an inch like stated earlier just to clear the fender gap.

onzedge · 07-18-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

z1 has them going for $88.

by the time you add up springs+spacers+camber arms it almost equals out to coilovers. so now i'm at cross roads lol is it better to save up another few hundred bucks and get coilovers? i still only want to drop my car an about an inch like stated earlier just to clear the fender gap.

Coil-overs do not eliminate the need for camber arms and spacers are completely optional so your cost calculations are a bit off.

Swift Spec-R -- $350.00 (or so)
Koni Yellow -- $900.00 (or so)

Decent Coli-overs, and I mean decent -- ????

Bilstein are the only coil-overs I would consider and they are $2,100 plus

DEpointfive0 · 07-19-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Coil-overs do not eliminate the need for camber arms and spacers are completely optional so your cost calculations are a bit off.

Swift Spec-R -- $350.00 (or so)
Koni Yellow -- $900.00 (or so)

Decent Coli-overs, and I mean decent -- ????

Bilstein are the only coil-overs I would consider and they are $2,100 plus

If the OP needs any of this, he should contact Andrew@NuGen Auto

onzedge · 07-19-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

If the OP needs any of this, he should contact Andrew@NuGen Auto

Rusty · 07-19-2014, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Coil-overs do not eliminate the need for camber arms and spacers are completely optional so your cost calculations are a bit off.

Swift Spec-R -- $350.00 (or so)
Koni Yellow -- $900.00 (or so)

Decent Coli-overs, and I mean decent -- ????

Bilstein are the only coil-overs I would consider and they are $2,100 plus

Bilsteins are not coilover in the rear.

Bilstein B16 PSS10 Coilovers for the Infinity G37 and Nissan 370z

onzedge · 07-19-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Bilsteins are not coilover in the rear.

Bilstein B16 PSS10 Coilovers for the Infinity G37 and Nissan 370z

Oops. I stand corrected.

Rusty · 07-19-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Coil-overs do not eliminate the need for camber arms and spacers are completely optional so your cost calculations are a bit off.

Swift Spec-R -- $350.00 (or so)
Koni Yellow -- $900.00 (or so)

Decent Coli-overs, and I mean decent -- ????

Bilstein are the only coil-overs I would consider and they are $2,100 plus

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Oops. I stand corrected.

onzedge · 07-19-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

aszyd · 07-18-2014, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Not to be difficult, but I personally know more than 2 dozen Z's with Swifts and not one could get in sec without aftermarket camber arms. Yes, you can get close, sort of, on the camber angle, but not the camber and toe simultaneously with stock parts.

And -- $55.00 for a pair of spacers and you are buying junk. Expect AT LEAST 120.00 or so for a pair. Do not skimp on suspension parts. Duh. They are holding your car up.

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I won't argue with you on the camber, you're right, if you want to be 100% in spec, camber arms are necessary.

The spacers though, what's junk about them? My el-cheapo spacers were hub centric, the correct width, had grade 10.9 studs, and fit perfectly. They just didn't have someones name stamped on them to jack the price up.

b15 · 07-18-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

I won't argue with you on the camber, you're right, if you want to be 100% in spec, camber arms are necessary.

The spacers though, what's junk about them? My el-cheapo spacers were hub centric, the correct width, had grade 10.9 studs, and fit perfectly. They just didn't have someones name stamped on them to jack the price up.

The probability of issues increases with the the cheaper spacers. They may not be all machined the same, fitment might not be the same for all 4, they may crack, etc. Ichiba is the first that comes to mind. It's the same difference between a $15 Auto Zone rotor and a $65 Brembo Blank. They do the same thing, but you're less likely to have issues with one of them.

Z1 has their spacers on sale starting at $88 for 20mm bolt ons. $33/pair additional surely won't break the bank.

onzedge · 07-19-2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by b15

The probability of issues increases with the the cheaper spacers. They may not be all machined the same, fitment might not be the same for all 4, they may crack, etc. Ichiba is the first that comes to mind. It's the same difference between a $15 Auto Zone rotor and a $65 Brembo Blank. They do the same thing, but you're less likely to have issues with one of them.

Z1 has their spacers on sale starting at $88 for 20mm bolt ons. $33/pair additional surely won't break the bank.

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