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Old 04-14-2014, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry for the hijacking but it's on the same subject, i just didn't want to open a new thread yet:

My car is a stock 2010 with 19 inch wheels and original alignment.
I don't wish to change suspension currently but i do want to improve handling.
amount of grip is no problem - the car has tons of it. it's the delivery that annoys me.

1. i'd like better turn-in, but i understand there is not much to do in the front with original suspension. what numbers should i aim for?
2. i'd like some more playfulness in the back but without eating the tires too much in regular driving. is that possible?
3. is there a recommended aftermarket improvement that won't dry my pocket but give me good value for money handling-wise? (don't say tires ;-) )

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Sorry for the hijacking but it's on the same subject, i just didn't want to open a new thread yet:

My car is a stock 2010 with 19 inch wheels and original alignment.
I don't wish to change suspension currently but i do want to improve handling.
amount of grip is no problem - the car has tons of it. it's the delivery that annoys me.

1. i'd like better turn-in, but i understand there is not much to do in the front with original suspension. what numbers should i aim for?
2. i'd like some more playfulness in the back but without eating the tires too much in regular driving. is that possible?
3. is there a recommended aftermarket improvement that won't dry my pocket but give me good value for money handling-wise? (don't say tires ;-) )

Thanks

Roni
1. Zero toe in the front.
2. Rear, Camber -1.75, Toe- Min spec on toe in. Shoot for close to zero.
3. Hotchkis sway bars. Around $400 for a pair.
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1. Zero toe in the front.
2. Rear, Camber -1.75, Toe- Min spec on toe in. Shoot for close to zero.
3. Hotchkis sway bars. Around $400 for a pair.
Excellent! short and to the point.

Regarding sway bars. saw this vid (even has same color as mine :-) )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugztIcdW2ms
looks very impressive.
Question is: how much more uncomfortable does it make the car? Where i live the roads are terrible and i would not like the car to be worse than it already is...

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Excellent! short and to the point.

Regarding sway bars. saw this vid (even has same color as mine :-) )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugztIcdW2ms
looks very impressive.
Question is: how much more uncomfortable does it make the car? Where i live the roads are terrible and i would not like the car to be worse than it already is...

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Not much more. I have them. Have the rear set to soft. The Z stays flat around turns. The Z likes a big front bar. With good tires. You'll have a lot of grip.
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Not much more. I have them. Have the rear set to soft. The Z stays flat around turns. The Z likes a big front bar. With good tires. You'll have a lot of grip.
OK, i'll think about it.
Actually the Z is quite flat stock, and i'm a not a fan of the "flat is always better" movement (in more than one respect ). too flat gives directness but takes away progressiveness. Plus, I already have quite a lot of grip. what i lack is tail playfulness (currently all i get is very late understeer) and some directness in the turn-in. I know it's not a good comparison because the Z i a heavy car, but when i drove a GT86 on the same track, it was much more pointy.

I miss light cars...

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