AP Racing BBK
 

Currently looking to see if their is a market for a Competition BBK for the 370z. Couple options I could think of:
1) 2 piece rotors to compliment the OEM Brembo Option
2) A full BBK with floating rotors & upgraded calipers

Is this something anyone could find usefull in the 370z community and are their any special requests for such products or things you would like taken into consideration if the project becomes a go.

I think both options should be considered. The basic AP Racing kit from Stillen is a good start, but the front caliper they supply is a street/track design with dust boots that promptly get crispified after the first track day.

There's only a handful of people running a full track car though so I'm not sure how profitable a full track setup would be in terms of designing new bracketry etc.

A straight up 2-piece rotor replacement for the Akebono's (there's no Brembo's) would likely sell more units.

How about an Alcon kit? I had that on my B6 S4 and it was great.
It had the 6 piston caliper up front that was cast 1 piece and the rear alcon
rotor with XP8 pads all around.

The picture above is a similar unit as supplied by Stillen. Its a street caliper but uses internal seals and comes fitted with anti knockback springs. Its also a stiffer caliper. I did not however check to see if their was a Stillen/Brake Pros option available for purchase.

When factoring in the cost of both AP Racing parts and Alcon I would much rather sell AP Racing parts due to the quality of the components and better design of them. It is much easier for me to properly design a kit with AP racing parts taking into consideration many different variables to offer kits that have the correct bias front to rear.

I'm with you there, the depth of the AP Racing product line is simply astounding, front street cars to F1 and everything in between. I'm still loving my Stillen AP Racing setup, the only complaint is the dust boots on the front calipers, we'll see if the titanium shims help a bit. At some point I'll go to a full floating setup but not worth it just yet.

I really like those J hook rotors. looks real good.

Alcons are used on lots of race cars as well. They make monoblock cast and forged calipers and the ones I had did not have dust boots, so they were true race systems with full floating discs front and rear. The AP ones in your pics are two piece calipers. Do they make monoblock ones?

AP does make mono blocks. The NASCAR AP's are a full monoblock including the bridge (they run massively thick pads), and the WRC calipers are monoblock with removable bridge for ease of pad change. However for normal track use the non-monoblock AP's are still stiffer than many monoblock calipers from other manufacturers, not the slightest hint of flex.

Floating rotors are an available option from Stillen, different front caliper, not sure.

A floating rotor set (front and rear) for the sport brakes was offered a few years ago by Relentless Autosports but only a few sets were bought.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/b...rotors-006.jpg

If you want to drool at a little as what an F1 brake setup looks like that costs more than our cars, check this out (sorry for the off-topic).

http://scarbsf1.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/fif1_1.jpg

I'm down for 2 peice front/rear rotors to work with oem sport calipers.

Did the kit you bought come with anti-knockback springs fitted?

mmmm thanks for the info..Does not seem to be a very popular item around these parts is what I am gathering so far. Exactly the reason I posted this thread. Its a feeler thread.

You have my attention with this BBK talk. :yum: I'm looking to buy a set shortly. Front and rear.

Oddly enough it did for the rear and not for the front. Added my own to the front during my end of season caliper rebuild.

:ugh2:

Weird.

If a little more attention from the community shows up with interest I will start the project and become an advertiser here so that I may start a Intro pricing kit GB or something along those lines. Right now this is a feeler and 2-3 people show interest which I am noting. Thanks for all the replys so far guys.

http://s8.postimage.org/wkb2kbrrp/IMG_0597r.jpg

http://s12.postimage.org/b9x6amb71/a...temodel002.jpg

That's brake porn in the fullest....

A month later and I have not seen any new posts. I will assume this is a dead request at this point.

Hey, I'm still interested. :D

Interested in 2 peice front/rear rotors.

that F1 set up is beautiful!!!

Yeap! :D

1) Rusty
2) BlkNismo

2 piece front rotors

1) Rusty (Front+Rear)
2) BlkNismo (Front+Rear)
3) takjak2 (Front)

I'm interested in two piece front and rears, slotted. Can you get the Alcon rotors? They fully float but do clunk a bit at low speeds. But that's what full floaters do.

Would prefer not using Alcon. AP Has better options and makes a better Rotor ring all together. J-Hook, Curved Groove and Straight Groove are all options. The engineering is my part. What you want is up to you. Thats the purpose of this thread. If enough interest comes about then I will dedicate the time disclose some pricing and pay advertiser fees on the forum.

1) Rusty (Front+Rear, Possible Full Kit) ?
2) BlkNismo (Front+Rear) ?
3) takjak2 (Front) ?
4) DCNISMO (Front+Rear) (Slotted Preferred)

Calipers too. :D

I would be interested in a front caliper upgrade. I don't feel that the AP CP7040 is really cut out for anything other than very light track duty, it's more of a street, occasional track caliper.

The 2-piece AP rotors have been holding up nicely. I get a full year out of a set of rings, could probably get more with a bit more brake ducting. I'm not sure a full float setup is really warranted on anything other than a full-time race car. I'm willing to look at it if it is part of a package though.

Full floating has way too much rattle for a street car.

My recommendations as far as this is concerned is a CP5060. Pad choices are very abundant. 18mm pad vs the typical 16 on a street caliper. The pistons are stainless steel keeping all the heat out of the caliper and fluid. I think all options are viable actually. Utilizing OEM Brembo calipers and some two piece rotors possibly full floating as well as an option for caliper upgrades to use with OEM style rotors all makes sense. Considering all angles guys so keep your suggestions coming.

1) Rusty (Front+Rear, Possible Full Kit) ?
2) BlkNismo (Front+Rear) Slotted
3) takjak2 (Front) ?
4) DCNISMO (Front+Rear) (Slotted Preferred)
5) ChrisSlicks (Comp Calipers)

Just to add, I'm interested in front/rear rotors slotted only with black hats. Not sure about full floating with the associated noise and my vehicle primarily driven on the street.

added/fixed

any updates?

Full kit. :tiphat: