how much do full kits usually run?

Will be talking to owners about becoming paid advertiser. Can not disclose prices and information about kits until that is settled. Can only get info from you guys on what you want and gauge interest on various components. So keep the suggestions coming. Once everything is settled on my end I will post all relevant info.

Guys, comparing AP and Alcon, it is like comparing bicycle and car. Both are used to drive ...

We have three 370Z track cars, all are used very hard on a track, more than 20 track days each year, and Alcon Superkit with proper pads is the best brake kit what we found.

I can't imagine that AP Racing, especially from Forumula Big Brake Kit range, can be in half good even, when we talk about stopping power, and reliability.

Please note, Alcon says that Superkit is dedicated for street use :)

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$8800.....

Not quite sure what you are trying to say here? That AP is crap? Considering that they are the top brake supplier for every major form of top motorsport others would apparently disagree.

You can get AP brakes anywhere from $5000 (street) to $50000 (Nascar), so as with anything you buy the level of performance you need.

I have had no major issues running the AP street calipers on track (about 15 days a year), my only complaint was related to dust seals which has been mostly addressed with a $100 heat shield. This is no fault of AP, they have plenty of comp calipers in a similar price range, it was Stillen that put together the package and they are primarily street focused.

For that kind of coin. I don't need a brake pedal, because they better be hard wired into my brain. :rolleyes:

That is embarrassing. Especially for a street Alcon kit. Even worse is when someone spends money like that on a Stoptech Kit. Trust me I have customers who do. I sold a front and rear kit along with a hand brake to an Audi customer yesterday...I offered better kits for the same price and he didnt bite!

Then using that street kit really doesnt make much sense on those 20 track events a year does it.....Thanks for your comments but we arent talking about Alcon, Brembo, Or Stoptech at this time. The thread was started by me and it is strictly about AP Racing at this time. I would like to keep it that way thanks. More so the thread is gauged towards hardcore racers and guys who track their cars enough where street calipers and street rotors no longer do the job. I have given my reasons why Alcon is not superior or even on the same level as AP Racing in previous posts.

Correct. AP Racing is generally more expensive than other manufactures like Stoptech, Rotora etc but if we are comparing quality vs price. You can get a very high quality part or brake set up geared towards street or track duty for the same price that you can buy a Brembo kit for (At Retail Dollar)

As far as the dust boots are concerned, Stillen/Brake Pros gears all their kits towards street driving. There are many other better Rotors and Calipers to choose from while still maintaining similar pricing.

interested in full kit

1) Rusty (Front+Rear, Possible Full Kit) ?
2) BlkNismo (Front+Rear) Slotted
3) takjak2 (Front) ?
4) DCNISMO (Front+Rear) (Slotted Preferred)
5) ChrisSlicks (Comp Calipers)
6) MD-370Z (Full Kit)

If you read closely....

"Front caliper is a 6 piston monobloc machined from a single piece forging. Rear caliper is a 4 piston monobloc which combined offers a more positive, responsive pedal as a result of improved caliper and system stiffness."

Its a kit with forged monoblock front and rear calipers, that's why its so expensive. They do make monoblock calipers that are cast and machined as I had on my B6 S4 Audi. Any kit with real monoblock forged calipers is going to cost a lot, be it AP. Brembo, or Stpotech. But as OP said, lets keep this what he offers and Its AP products. If I decide to go Alcon I'll find a vendor someplace else.

The primary AP Rushing kit from Stillen is a nice beginning, but the top side caliper they provide is a street/track style with dirt footwear that quickly get crispified after the first monitor day. There's only a few people operating a complete monitor car though so I'm not sure how successful a complete monitor installation would be with regards to developing new bracketry etc.

Try a set of these, it will help.
DH586 Titanium Brake Shims for AP Racing CP7040 Caliper [TS-T-DH0586] : Hard Brakes - Titanium Brake Backing Plates, Brake Shims, Brake Heat Shields

Also, English lesson for the day. Although Track and Monitor are synonyms under one definition, they are not in this particular usage. I suspect that you used an auto-translator and those easily get tripped up by words like 'boot' and 'track'. I found the translation from 'dust boot' to 'dirty footwear' particularly funny :)

makes more sense now Chris! thanks for retranslating

For you guys you have preferred slotted are we talking straight grooves or curved grooves.

For me, it doesn't matter.

I prefer straight.

I like J Hooked rotors

Hooked or cresent shaped for me.

1) Rusty (Front+Rear, Possible Full Kit) J-Hook/Straight Grooved
2) BlkNismo (Front+Rear) Straight Grooved
3) takjak2 (Front) ?
4) DCNISMO (Front+Rear) (J-Hook)
5) ChrisSlicks (Comp Calipers)
6) MD-370Z (Full Kit)

I suppose the last question I need to know before putting all this stuff together, becoming a paid advertiser and giving these kits to you guys is this...When designed the rotors do you want full float or partial float like Brembo, Stoptech etc. Full float WILL rattle at low speeds like driving through a neighborhood or even on the street when the rotors are not up to temp I can take a video today to show you how much they rattle and what kinds of clicking noises you would hear.

in for video.....

same in for video

I have Brembo full floaters on 2 motorcycles. I know about the rattle. :D

I have full floating already and would be interested in partial floating as the noise with full floating is really too much for a daily driver. I change from stock to floating just for track events which gets old pretty quickly.

Will be a couple days before video. Decided to fit the rear with a BBK as well and need to machine the caliper brackets first. The rotors are complete..Stand by.

Been shopping for a brake kit info here and what's embarrasing is your shameless self promotion. You've offered nothing but opinion and no real facts on this mystery kit, yet very opinionated other kits offered are inferior or too expensive. Your objective here is simply to pump your product, you've offerered no real information or useful advice.

Yes AP can make a great caliper, and do is Alcon, and Brembo. And the only way to save money on these kits is skimp on quality or capacity...

So if you're offering something cheaper than the aforementioned kits offered by Stasis, Alconkits, or others, it's because you're likely leaving something on the table. Question is, what? I think if I'm gonna trust my car and my a** to something, it won't be a "kit" put together who's intent is to save money...

In fact I think I can see where... 2 piece calipers, where else?... Inferior product to a monoblock forging... DCNISMO pointed it out.. Didn't Alcon run on most of the ALMS prototypes and Brembo's on all the GT Porsche's? Like him, think I'll go elsewhere too... sheesh...

Well thank you for your well thought out post. Considering this is your first post we can all assume you are trying to hide behind another screen name and bash for no good reason.

If you paid any attention to the posts on this thread you would have easily come across posts that stated that no information would be disclosed as we have not paid advertisement fees for this forum at this time and did not intend to do so unless certain amount of interest was shown in a product like I have mentioned. So your wrong in 'your assumption' that I am here to pump my product and bash other companies. My goal is to see what, if any interest is out there for a 2 piece floating set up of rotors or full competition kit.

I also find it interesting to see that in addition to the above assumption you have so easily made that you also have made assumptions about this kit, who we are and what we do. Pretty ignorant if you ask me.

Your also wrong in your assumption that to offer something cheaper than the other options means that corners need to be cut or sub par parts need to be sold. Actually the parts we use are superior to Alcon and Stoptech. I can assure you that selling parts like this does not save me money. Selling kits like this saves you money as a consumer. We dont jack are prices up through the roof like Alcon, Stoptech and Brembo do. For the price that you can pay for an Alcon street kit we could put together a kit custom tailored to the 370z crowd. Featuring competition calipers, custom full floating rotors (which Alcon, Brembo & Stoptech do not offer BTW) and all associated hardware and brackets etc.

Sure ALMS, Grand AM prototypes use monobloc calipers. Whats your point. AP racing offers single piece monobloc, forged two piece, two piece cast, billet two piece calipers. They have the widest range of rotors and they have a healthy range of calipers as well. Alcon does not offer rotors in different vane counts nore does Stoptech and their calipers are off the shelf units with enlarged piston diameters which most of the time work against keeping factory bias.

Thanks for your comments.

This thread will be closed as of today. As soon as the product is complete it will be released on a new thread in the same section where a GB will be opened.

Cheers guys! Have a Great Thanksgiving!!