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Race_Tech 09-24-2012 04:40 PM

AP Racing BBK
 
Currently looking to see if their is a market for a Competition BBK for the 370z. Couple options I could think of:
1) 2 piece rotors to compliment the OEM Brembo Option
2) A full BBK with floating rotors & upgraded calipers

Is this something anyone could find usefull in the 370z community and are their any special requests for such products or things you would like taken into consideration if the project becomes a go.

ChrisSlicks 09-24-2012 05:06 PM

I think both options should be considered. The basic AP Racing kit from Stillen is a good start, but the front caliper they supply is a street/track design with dust boots that promptly get crispified after the first track day.

There's only a handful of people running a full track car though so I'm not sure how profitable a full track setup would be in terms of designing new bracketry etc.

A straight up 2-piece rotor replacement for the Akebono's (there's no Brembo's) would likely sell more units.

DCNISMO 09-24-2012 05:14 PM

How about an Alcon kit? I had that on my B6 S4 and it was great.
It had the 6 piston caliper up front that was cast 1 piece and the rear alcon
rotor with XP8 pads all around.

Race_Tech 09-24-2012 05:19 PM

The picture above is a similar unit as supplied by Stillen. Its a street caliper but uses internal seals and comes fitted with anti knockback springs. Its also a stiffer caliper. I did not however check to see if their was a Stillen/Brake Pros option available for purchase.

Race_Tech 09-24-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 1929968)
How about an Alcon kit? I had that on my B6 S4 and it was great.
It had the 6 piston caliper up front that was cast 1 piece and the rear alcon
rotor with XP8 pads all around.

When factoring in the cost of both AP Racing parts and Alcon I would much rather sell AP Racing parts due to the quality of the components and better design of them. It is much easier for me to properly design a kit with AP racing parts taking into consideration many different variables to offer kits that have the correct bias front to rear.

ChrisSlicks 09-24-2012 07:10 PM

I'm with you there, the depth of the AP Racing product line is simply astounding, front street cars to F1 and everything in between. I'm still loving my Stillen AP Racing setup, the only complaint is the dust boots on the front calipers, we'll see if the titanium shims help a bit. At some point I'll go to a full floating setup but not worth it just yet.

cdoxp800 09-24-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Race_Tech (Post 1929972)
The picture above is a similar unit as supplied by Stillen. Its a street caliper but uses internal seals and comes fitted with anti knockback springs. Its also a stiffer caliper. I did not however check to see if their was a Stillen/Brake Pros option available for purchase. Below is a dedicated track kit with a competition caliper which was also recently designed. We could easily put together a 2 piece floating system if their was a need or requests to.

http://s8.postimage.org/6yp79wqxx/IMG_0619.jpg

I really like those J hook rotors. looks real good.

DCNISMO 09-24-2012 09:06 PM

Alcons are used on lots of race cars as well. They make monoblock cast and forged calipers and the ones I had did not have dust boots, so they were true race systems with full floating discs front and rear. The AP ones in your pics are two piece calipers. Do they make monoblock ones?

ChrisSlicks 09-24-2012 09:28 PM

AP does make mono blocks. The NASCAR AP's are a full monoblock including the bridge (they run massively thick pads), and the WRC calipers are monoblock with removable bridge for ease of pad change. However for normal track use the non-monoblock AP's are still stiffer than many monoblock calipers from other manufacturers, not the slightest hint of flex.

Floating rotors are an available option from Stillen, different front caliper, not sure.

DR_ 09-24-2012 09:29 PM

A floating rotor set (front and rear) for the sport brakes was offered a few years ago by Relentless Autosports but only a few sets were bought.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/b...rotors-006.jpg

ChrisSlicks 09-24-2012 09:36 PM

If you want to drool at a little as what an F1 brake setup looks like that costs more than our cars, check this out (sorry for the off-topic).

http://scarbsf1.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/fif1_1.jpg

BlkNismo 09-24-2012 09:36 PM

I'm down for 2 peice front/rear rotors to work with oem sport calipers.

Race_Tech 09-25-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1930126)
I'm with you there, the depth of the AP Racing product line is simply astounding, front street cars to F1 and everything in between. I'm still loving my Stillen AP Racing setup, the only complaint is the dust boots on the front calipers, we'll see if the titanium shims help a bit. At some point I'll go to a full floating setup but not worth it just yet.

Did the kit you bought come with anti-knockback springs fitted?

Race_Tech 09-25-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 1930325)
A floating rotor set (front and rear) for the sport brakes was offered a few years ago by Relentless Autosports but only a few sets were bought.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/b...rotors-006.jpg

mmmm thanks for the info..Does not seem to be a very popular item around these parts is what I am gathering so far. Exactly the reason I posted this thread. Its a feeler thread.

Rusty 09-25-2012 03:25 AM

You have my attention with this BBK talk. :yum: I'm looking to buy a set shortly. Front and rear.


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