Speed Bleeders

coaxial · 04-28-2010, 02:04 AM

Have any of you guys used speed bleeders? Speed Bleeder Bleeding Brakes Bleeding Motorcycle Brakes Automotive Bleeder Screw Brake Bleeder

Anyways I have them on the Triumph 675 Daytona (motorcycle). For the front rear and clutch assemblies. They are amazing.

If you have never used them what you do when you bleed the system is you turn the speed bleeder a quarter turn it opens the valve up there is a check valve so you can pump out but it does not allow air back in and makes changing out the fluid fun.

was wondering if anyone knows the size you need on the 370?

Thanks

Mike · 04-28-2010, 08:00 AM

M10x1.0, but I think they are a waste of money. If you are trying to do it by yourself, you will still have to be inside the car pumping the brakes and won't know when all the air has come out of the system, since you can't see it. If you have two people, then you still don't need them, just a small piece of tubing to see the bubbles.

If you are doing it by yourself, I highly recommend a motive bleeder. that makes it truly a one person operation. Also, if you go this route, we use the Ford cap adapter.

gpa7pk · 04-28-2010, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

M10x1.0, but I think they are a waste of money. If you are trying to do it by yourself, you will still have to be inside the car pumping the brakes and won't know when all the air has come out of the system, since you can't see it. If you have two people, then you still don't need them, just a small piece of tubing to see the bubbles.

If you are doing it by yourself, I highly recommend a motive bleeder. that makes it truly a one person operation. Also, if you go this route, we use the Ford cap adapter.

I understand the Motive Power bleeder, but why the Ford adapter cap? I'd be guessing but wouldn't the Ford adapter have standard US threads and the Nissan would require metric? Does the adapter cap leak at all?

takayuki · 04-28-2010, 09:54 AM

which ford cap adapter do you use? there's two kinds on their website.. the 1107 and the 1108?

Mike · 04-28-2010, 12:38 PM

1107
it's not threads, but tabs and we use the same design. All cars are metric now anyways

cossie1600 · 04-28-2010, 02:37 PM

i highly recommend the motive unit, thats what i use.

speedbleeders are garbage, they start to lose their seal after repeated use, mine started leaking after 7 or 8 tries

kenchan · 04-28-2010, 03:15 PM

i haven't done my Z, but i regulary use a motive extractor (the larger hand pump one) and replenish bottle. no leaks, very easy to use. no assistant needed.

coaxial · 04-28-2010, 03:40 PM

The speed bleeders are amazing, I see where you are coming from I would like to use the motive bleeder in conjunction with the speed bleeders.

I have done brake bleeds on brake bleeding griots pump, and that always allows atleast a little air back in the line. Even though the brakes felt amazing they could of been better. Once I put the speed bleeders on you could really see what was left in the line. I dont mind having someone else on the other end watching the fluid color/watching for bubbles.

I like the motive bleeder, I have used that also before, I just like having the check valve on the other end of the line, and for the price they sell at it really does not hurt.

On the Z as far as ABS in concerned is there any particular way to cycle the fluid. I know on my audi you start rear left (which sould be the same) But I believe you are suppose to start the car let it run for a couple of minutes and pump the brakes the evacuate the ABS. I have also heard of people doing hot bleeds where the car is on and the have something holding the brakes down the evac the system. (just make sure you do not run out of fluid...)

What are your preferred methods on the Z?

tranceformer · 05-12-2010, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

M10x1.0, but I think they are a waste of money. If you are trying to do it by yourself, you will still have to be inside the car pumping the brakes and won't know when all the air has come out of the system, since you can't see it. If you have two people, then you still don't need them, just a small piece of tubing to see the bubbles.

If you are doing it by yourself, I highly recommend a motive bleeder. that makes it truly a one person operation. Also, if you go this route, we use the Ford cap adapter.

+1

I've used both, I'd definitely pick the Motive bleeder over the speedbleeders.

roy'sz · 01-03-2012, 02:41 AM

I know this thread has been put to sleep for a while, but what about the clutch resevoir? has anyone fitted a cap for that yet? Does it come in the kit?

Zxces50 · 04-16-2012, 01:02 PM

For the motive power bleeder what presure do you pump up to? I do not see noted anywhere

MattP725 · 04-16-2012, 03:08 PM

Just to add an option... I use this bleeder from Harbor Freight in conjunction with my air compressor and I love it.. much better and easier than my old Mityvac.

roy'sz · 04-16-2012, 03:41 PM

About 20, I haven't gotten mine yet. Matt can you link me the bleeder you are referencing?

MattP725 · 04-16-2012, 07:05 PM

Already did... click the link... it is in the text.

roy'sz · 04-16-2012, 09:45 PM

hahaha sorry was reading from my cell phone earlier today. Im not seeing how it goes together in my head but it looks legit.

04-28-2010, 02:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
coaxial Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 53 Drives: 07-675 Daytona-Red Rep Power: 16	Speed Bleeders Have any of you guys used speed bleeders? Speed Bleeder Bleeding Brakes Bleeding Motorcycle Brakes Automotive Bleeder Screw Brake Bleeder Anyways I have them on the Triumph 675 Daytona (motorcycle). For the front rear and clutch assemblies. They are amazing. If you have never used them what you do when you bleed the system is you turn the speed bleeder a quarter turn it opens the valve up there is a check valve so you can pump out but it does not allow air back in and makes changing out the fluid fun. was wondering if anyone knows the size you need on the 370? Thanks

04-28-2010, 08:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	M10x1.0, but I think they are a waste of money. If you are trying to do it by yourself, you will still have to be inside the car pumping the brakes and won't know when all the air has come out of the system, since you can't see it. If you have two people, then you still don't need them, just a small piece of tubing to see the bubbles. If you are doing it by yourself, I highly recommend a motive bleeder. that makes it truly a one person operation. Also, if you go this route, we use the Ford cap adapter. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

04-28-2010, 12:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	1107 it's not threads, but tabs and we use the same design. All cars are metric now anyways __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	i haven't done my Z, but i regulary use a motive extractor (the larger hand pump one) and replenish bottle. no leaks, very easy to use. no assistant needed.

04-28-2010, 03:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
coaxial Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 53 Drives: 07-675 Daytona-Red Rep Power: 16	The speed bleeders are amazing, I see where you are coming from I would like to use the motive bleeder in conjunction with the speed bleeders. I have done brake bleeds on brake bleeding griots pump, and that always allows atleast a little air back in the line. Even though the brakes felt amazing they could of been better. Once I put the speed bleeders on you could really see what was left in the line. I dont mind having someone else on the other end watching the fluid color/watching for bubbles. I like the motive bleeder, I have used that also before, I just like having the check valve on the other end of the line, and for the price they sell at it really does not hurt. On the Z as far as ABS in concerned is there any particular way to cycle the fluid. I know on my audi you start rear left (which sould be the same) But I believe you are suppose to start the car let it run for a couple of minutes and pump the brakes the evacuate the ABS. I have also heard of people doing hot bleeds where the car is on and the have something holding the brakes down the evac the system. (just make sure you do not run out of fluid...) What are your preferred methods on the Z?

01-03-2012, 02:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	I know this thread has been put to sleep for a while, but what about the clutch resevoir? has anyone fitted a cap for that yet? Does it come in the kit?

04-16-2012, 01:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Zxces50 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 208 Drives: 15 C7 Stingray Z51 Rep Power: 16	For the motive power bleeder what presure do you pump up to? I do not see noted anywhere

04-16-2012, 03:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 16	Just to add an option... I use this bleeder from Harbor Freight in conjunction with my air compressor and I love it.. much better and easier than my old Mityvac.

04-16-2012, 03:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	About 20, I haven't gotten mine yet. Matt can you link me the bleeder you are referencing?

04-16-2012, 07:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 16	Already did... click the link... it is in the text.

04-16-2012, 09:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
roy'sz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: palmdale, ca Posts: 1,299 Drives: 2010 nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	hahaha sorry was reading from my cell phone earlier today. Im not seeing how it goes together in my head but it looks legit.