Improve stock brakes on a budget

igota21incher · 03-04-2012, 11:18 PM

So my car is approaching the 30K mile mark, and my akebono brakes are slowly beginning to crap out on me. For all of those who have been through this and wanted to improve braking power, feel, and fade resistance(almost inevitable, i know) and don't wish to break bank by investing in a new bbk, what can one do? ie. brake pads, brake lines, fluid, etc... recommendations please.. and what is the cost associated with this?
p.s. car is never tracked, only looking for street performance upgrades.
thanks!

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-05-2012, 12:43 AM

The brakes aren't going to crap. The pads are wearing down. 30k on a BBK, you have to expect the pads to wear... you can replace the pads and get a brake inspecttion for fluids etc...

For a performance increase on the stock brakes you can do this...

Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models)

Stop Tech makes a similar stock upgrade kit for a couple hundred more... you need to look for that one yourself.

You mean this link from 2 days ago? Lol

whoLEEoh · 03-05-2012, 12:55 AM

Stoptech rotors and hps pads. My brakes feel awesome.

Jordo! · 03-05-2012, 03:44 AM

I like the project mu pads; those plus SS brake lines are a huge improvement over stock.

igota21incher · 03-05-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The brakes aren't going to crap. The pads are wearing down. 30k on a BBK, you have to expect the pads to wear... you can replace the pads and get a brake inspecttion for fluids etc...

For a performance increase on the stock brakes you can do this...

Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models)

Stop Tech makes a similar stock upgrade kit for a couple hundred more... you need to look for that one yourself.

For lack of a better analogy that's exactly what I mean. I'm looking for people's experience in replacing pads, lines, fluids, etc to non own spec

ryan0 · 03-05-2012, 11:10 AM

best cheap mod... actually best mod in general is cooling.

igota21incher · 03-05-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan0

best cheap mod... actually best mod in general is cooling.

By what means? Cutting holes in my fenders lmao

Jordo! · 03-05-2012, 11:58 AM

There's a brake pad review thread in sub forum on brakes and suspension. Worth skimming to see what people like.

Stainless steel brake lines are definitely worth it -- even with another set of OEM pads, it's a very noticeable upgrade.

I wouldn't bother with rotors on a budget -- too expensive, and the slotted ones will chew through your pads more quickly.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-05-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by igota21incher

For lack of a better analogy that's exactly what I mean. I'm looking for people's experience in replacing pads, lines, fluids, etc to non own spec

I know what you're saying but what did you write in your PS? You said you only want better street performance. If that's the case? Probably the ONLY aftermarket mod you need for your brakes to feel better are Steel brake lines. Every other mod is for high heat racing applications. The cheapest better than street mod is the Z1 kit I showed you. I run the stoptech kit with Stune pads and my brakes feel great. I haven't bought track pads yet but plan to.
Doing anything more than lines will only be cosmetic for street performance. Stune pads are better than most aftermarket pads for street. A lot of the other brands give the same performance with high brake dust and squealing.

igota21incher · 03-05-2012, 11:19 PM

after skimming through the plethora of brake pad threads, i've come to the conclusion that no one here can recommend a good street pad that gives a little bit more 'bite' over stock. everyone seems to agree that the upgraded nismo pads are not not worth the money while hawk pads would tend to put excess wear on your rotors. the project mu's seem to be a popular upgrade but i still don't see any review threads on those specifically.

p.s. what's a reasonable price to pay for the labor involved in installing the ss brake lines and replacing brake fluid. i'm most likely going to go with z1 ss lines and Valvoline Synthetic oil, and stock pads unless some one wants to weigh in on this....

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-06-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by igota21incher

after skimming through the plethora of brake pad threads, i've come to the conclusion that no one here can recommend a good street pad that gives a little bit more 'bite' over stock. everyone seems to agree that the upgraded nismo pads are not not worth the money while hawk pads would tend to put excess wear on your rotors. the project mu's seem to be a popular upgrade but i still don't see any review threads on those specifically.

p.s. what's a reasonable price to pay for the labor involved in installing the ss brake lines and replacing brake fluid. i'm most likely going to go with z1 ss lines and Valvoline Synthetic oil, and stock pads unless some one wants to weigh in on this....

When they are talking about pads not being worth it. They are talking about NISMO R-Tune pads. And they are NOT. R tune pads though aren't even legal for you to drive on the street. If you got into an accident and the repair shop found R-TUNES under your car you'd be liable and the insurance company won't cover. Remember you are searching on threads where serious tuners change there pads for the track and they have a street pad.
Stune pads are different from R tune. For one they are Street pads. Honestly there's no clear answer to aftermarket street pads. They have there inherent strengths and weaknesses. S tune has better bite than OEM sport pads and decrease braking by 1foot to 102ft. With brake lines you migh loose an extra foot or two which is good. 100ft from 60 would be supercar level.

You search a thread on a guy who tracks yet you have no intention of tracking. His experience with a pad will be very different from yours. Find threads where guys are street driving only and PM different guys running different brands for the clearest info... then ask about there driving habits and see if tthey match yours. I can guarantee you on S-tune pads. You will be hard pressed to find a lot of people rrunning them. I'm probably one of very few. R tune pads... nissan was dumb enough to sell illegal pads on street cars for a whole year.

Pricing on brake lines... well whenever you do anything with brakes its expensive unless you know some one. It will probably in the $180-260 range for labor.

red6spd · 03-06-2012, 10:37 AM

Call Stillen or Z1

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-06-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Call Stillen or Z1

I gave him the Z1 link but the thread keeps. Moving. Lol.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-06-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The brakes aren't going to crap. The pads are wearing down. 30k on a BBK, you have to expect the pads to wear... you can replace the pads and get a brake inspecttion for fluids etc...

For a performance increase on the stock brakes you can do this...

Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models)

Stop Tech makes a similar stock upgrade kit for a couple hundred more... you need to look for that one yourself.

You mean this link from 2 days ago? Lol

ryan0 · 03-06-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by igota21incher

By what means? Cutting holes in my fenders lmao

by any means necessary...

use the regular grill opening
use scoops from underneath

aren't there blank plates on the front grill?

03-04-2012, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
igota21incher Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: new york Posts: 100 Drives: 07 civic Rep Power: 16	Improve stock brakes on a budget So my car is approaching the 30K mile mark, and my akebono brakes are slowly beginning to crap out on me. For all of those who have been through this and wanted to improve braking power, feel, and fade resistance(almost inevitable, i know) and don't wish to break bank by investing in a new bbk, what can one do? ie. brake pads, brake lines, fluid, etc... recommendations please.. and what is the cost associated with this? p.s. car is never tracked, only looking for street performance upgrades. thanks!

03-05-2012, 12:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	The brakes aren't going to crap. The pads are wearing down. 30k on a BBK, you have to expect the pads to wear... you can replace the pads and get a brake inspecttion for fluids etc... For a performance increase on the stock brakes you can do this... Z1 370Z / G37 Brake Upgrade Package (Sport Models) Stop Tech makes a similar stock upgrade kit for a couple hundred more... you need to look for that one yourself. You mean this link from 2 days ago? Lol Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 03-06-2012 at 10:46 AM.

03-05-2012, 12:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
whoLEEoh Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 647 Drives: 2010 370z NISMO Rep Power: 15	Stoptech rotors and hps pads. My brakes feel awesome. __________________ 2013 Boss 302

03-05-2012, 03:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	I like the project mu pads; those plus SS brake lines are a huge improvement over stock. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

03-05-2012, 11:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	There's a brake pad review thread in sub forum on brakes and suspension. Worth skimming to see what people like. Stainless steel brake lines are definitely worth it -- even with another set of OEM pads, it's a very noticeable upgrade. I wouldn't bother with rotors on a budget -- too expensive, and the slotted ones will chew through your pads more quickly. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

03-05-2012, 11:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
ryan0 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: 2" off your rear deck Posts: 120 Drives: 86 Ford Festiva Rep Power: 13	best cheap mod... actually best mod in general is cooling.

03-05-2012, 11:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
igota21incher Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: new york Posts: 100 Drives: 07 civic Rep Power: 16	after skimming through the plethora of brake pad threads, i've come to the conclusion that no one here can recommend a good street pad that gives a little bit more 'bite' over stock. everyone seems to agree that the upgraded nismo pads are not not worth the money while hawk pads would tend to put excess wear on your rotors. the project mu's seem to be a popular upgrade but i still don't see any review threads on those specifically. p.s. what's a reasonable price to pay for the labor involved in installing the ss brake lines and replacing brake fluid. i'm most likely going to go with z1 ss lines and Valvoline Synthetic oil, and stock pads unless some one wants to weigh in on this....

03-06-2012, 10:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Call Stillen or Z1 __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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