Eibach vs Hotchkis

darionlear · 01-23-2012, 04:04 PM

Okay, so just a poll ... I'm between doing hotchkis sway bars... or Eibach antiroll...

What are everyone's opinions?

Thanks

-dan

darionlear · 01-23-2012, 04:05 PM

These are the Eibach.... compared next to stock

m4a1mustang · 01-23-2012, 04:09 PM

What's your application? More track than street? More street than track?

darionlear · 01-23-2012, 04:22 PM

I'm more street... occasionally hit the drag strip. But not too often. I'm not big on drifting. But may slide every now and then.

m4a1mustang · 01-23-2012, 04:24 PM

Have you considered Stillen? The Stillen bars are perfect for a mostly street driven Z.

Between the Eibach and Hotchkis (I don't have the specs in front of me) I believe the Hotchkis is the more aggressive of the two.

darionlear · 01-23-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Have you considered Stillen? The Stillen bars are perfect for a mostly street driven Z.

Between the Eibach and Hotchkis (I don't have the specs in front of me) I believe the Hotchkis is the more aggressive of the two.

Just checking opinions. I have access to discount on eibach, but was considering hotchkis prior... just looking for weight to add to the scale. LoL

OMGWTFBBQ · 01-24-2012, 03:22 PM

Try checking out the Whiteline bars too.

kenchan · 01-24-2012, 03:33 PM

yah, if im going to do it, it would be whitelines myself too.

darionlear · 01-24-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ

Try checking out the Whiteline bars too.

i did... solid right? Not hollow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, if im going to do it, it would be whitelines myself too.

And as far as you two, why would you pick shoreline over eibach?

Legitimate reasons, not just "cause" lol

What advantages did you find where they were better?

B&W_Evader · 01-24-2012, 08:00 PM

I've been doing some research myself on this...

Summary:
OEM (Front 1.04 OD x .15 wall 560 lbs @ 1", Rear 0.945 OD x 0.13 wall, 540 lbs @ 1")
Stillen Sway bars $301.78 (Front +21/+48% 1.0625x0.250, Rear +37/+70% 1.0x0.188)
Whitelines Sway Bars? (Front 27mm $271, Rear 24mm $240, End Links $167.70)
Hotchkis $475 (Front 35mm +205% tube, Rear 28.5mm +75% tube)
Eibach (Front 32 (+76%/+117%)or34mm, Rear 29mm (+67%/+98%/+130%))

From the specs I found I think the Stillen and the Eibach are the best. Good stiffness upgrade plus room for tweeking the balance of the car once you determine if you want a little more oversteer or understeer.

Stillen if you want it more streetable
Eibach if you want it more trackable
Whitelines don't have any rate data posted that I've found. If they're solid, that's extra weight.
Hotchkis looks like it'll provide additional understeer. Guess that'd be good for a circle or oval track.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 08:01 PM

Pfft understeer sucks on an oval!

haitech · 01-24-2012, 08:01 PM

Thanks for the info

B&W_Evader · 01-24-2012, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Pfft understeer sucks on an oval!

Oversteer sucks even more.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Oversteer sucks even more.

Oversteer works for Kyle Busch.

B&W_Evader · 01-24-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Oversteer works for Kyle Busch.

Yep, but who here has those kinds of skills?

01-23-2012, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	What's your application? More track than street? More street than track? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-23-2012, 04:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Have you considered Stillen? The Stillen bars are perfect for a mostly street driven Z. Between the Eibach and Hotchkis (I don't have the specs in front of me) I believe the Hotchkis is the more aggressive of the two. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-24-2012, 08:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 386	I've been doing some research myself on this... Summary: OEM (Front 1.04 OD x .15 wall 560 lbs @ 1", Rear 0.945 OD x 0.13 wall, 540 lbs @ 1") Stillen Sway bars $301.78 (Front +21/+48% 1.0625x0.250, Rear +37/+70% 1.0x0.188) Whitelines Sway Bars? (Front 27mm $271, Rear 24mm $240, End Links $167.70) Hotchkis $475 (Front 35mm +205% tube, Rear 28.5mm +75% tube) Eibach (Front 32 (+76%/+117%)or34mm, Rear 29mm (+67%/+98%/+130%)) From the specs I found I think the Stillen and the Eibach are the best. Good stiffness upgrade plus room for tweeking the balance of the car once you determine if you want a little more oversteer or understeer. Stillen if you want it more streetable Eibach if you want it more trackable Whitelines don't have any rate data posted that I've found. If they're solid, that's extra weight. Hotchkis looks like it'll provide additional understeer. Guess that'd be good for a circle or oval track. Last edited by B&W_Evader; 01-24-2012 at 08:09 PM.

01-24-2012, 08:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
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