No base model LSD?!?

CoolGreyz · 10-13-2011, 11:18 PM

like wtf? does it matter? cuz im still sliding the car anyways but i always thought the base w/o the sports package still had one.

in other words.. is a lsd necessary to drift? n if so.. what kind should i get?

VQStryker · 10-14-2011, 07:02 AM

Not necessary but makes it much easier.

if its not your dd then go with 2 way LSD. both wheels are locked under declaration and acceleration making it easier to drift. problem is, its not an effective lsd for dd. tire wear will increase, unsafe in certain whether conditions.

You could go with a 1.5 LSD which are only fully locked under acceleration but is better for a dd car. quaife, os giken, carbonetics all make LSD for this car just do your research on them and decide from there. good luck

Joe

wheee! · 10-14-2011, 07:41 AM

Don't know if I would dd a 1.5 way either.... cornering at low speed makes quite the racket!

SPOHN · 10-14-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

Don't know if I would dd a 1.5 way either.... cornering at low speed makes quite the racket!

That doesn't go for all diffs. Some are worse than others. I have the OS Giken diff and it is really wonderful. Not because I have it but OSG is the best! There built so well. Mine is a 1.5 and it locks 100% and 50% on deceleration

I have heard mine make a little noise form time to time and that's only when the radio was down all the way and I was entering a driveway at a angle on all occassions. I heard and somewhat felt it but my friends didn't that was standing right there. I do have very little wheel hop when making a somewhat tight turn. Which is to be expected with all diffs. Defiantly the best mod you can have.

Red__Zed · 10-14-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

That doesn't go for all diffs. Some are worse than others. I have the OS Giken diff and it is really wonderful. Not because I have it but OSG is the best! There built so well. Mine is a 1.5 and it locks 100% and 50% on deceleration

I have heard mine make a little noise form time to time and that's only when the radio was down all the way and I was entering a driveway at a angle on all occassions. I heard and somewhat felt it but my friends didn't that was standing right there. I do have very little wheel hop when making a somewhat tight turn. Which is to be expected with all diffs. Defiantly the best mod you can have.

Clutch-type diffs got a bad rep because on noisy, clunky ones like the Nismo piece...they aren't all bad.

Thing is, the more aggressive the lock-up (good for hard driving), the more obnoxious they are in slow driving. The OSG is a great compromise between the two

SPOHN · 10-14-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Clutch-type diffs got a bad rep because on noisy, clunky ones like the Nismo piece...they aren't all bad.

Thing is, the more aggressive the lock-up (good for hard driving), the more obnoxious they are in slow driving. The OSG is a great compromise between the two

I've never have noticed anything during slow driving though. It only locks during hard braking.

Red__Zed · 10-14-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

I've never have noticed anything during slow driving though. It only locks during hard braking.

yep, they did a pretty good job ensuring the clutch engagement is smooth. you won't hear much on it, at least in my experience...unless you are doing a fully lock turn in a parking lot or something....

Red__Zed · 10-14-2011, 07:46 AM

No LSD in the base model.

Honestly though, the open diff and the VLSD are about the same....very ineffective. You'd want a good clutch-type or Torsen diff, especially if you're trying to get sideways.

VQStryker · 10-14-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

No LSD in the base model.

Honestly though, the open diff and the VLSD are about the same....very ineffective. You'd want a good clutch-type or Torsen diff, especially if you're trying to get sideways.

I agree, vlsd is very ineffective at distributing power evenly to each side.

ScGRaceR · 10-14-2011, 11:34 AM

fail thread...

honda del slow drifts better than an open diff z

Red__Zed · 10-14-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ScGRaceR

fail thread...

honda del slow drifts better than an open diff z

Guess it depends on your goal. The VLSD is great for kicking the tail out, but makes things difficult to sustain due to inconsistent lockup.

The base is tougher but at least predictable.

ScGRaceR · 10-14-2011, 11:36 AM

Actually lulling

ScGRaceR · 10-14-2011, 11:38 AM

btw its not base if it has a sport pkg......? someone correct me please if im wrong?

nogoodname · 10-14-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ScGRaceR

btw its not base if it has a sport pkg......? someone correct me please if im wrong?

Base = Base
base + Sport = Sport

lol....

ScGRaceR · 10-14-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

Base = Base
base + Sport = Sport

lol....

10-13-2011, 11:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
CoolGreyz Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: San Antonio Posts: 2 Drives: 09 370 Silver Manual Rep Power: 14	No base model LSD?!? like wtf? does it matter? cuz im still sliding the car anyways but i always thought the base w/o the sports package still had one. in other words.. is a lsd necessary to drift? n if so.. what kind should i get?

10-14-2011, 07:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
VQStryker Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Age: 36 Posts: 659 Drives: :( Rep Power: 15	Not necessary but makes it much easier. if its not your dd then go with 2 way LSD. both wheels are locked under declaration and acceleration making it easier to drift. problem is, its not an effective lsd for dd. tire wear will increase, unsafe in certain whether conditions. You could go with a 1.5 LSD which are only fully locked under acceleration but is better for a dd car. quaife, os giken, carbonetics all make LSD for this car just do your research on them and decide from there. good luck Joe Last edited by VQStryker; 10-14-2011 at 07:05 AM.

10-14-2011, 07:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Don't know if I would dd a 1.5 way either.... cornering at low speed makes quite the racket! __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

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ScGRaceR Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 33908 Posts: 382 Drives: 2010 Nismo,2008 R32 Rep Power: 16	Actually lulling __________________ 2010 PW Nismo: GT-R Start / Stop \| Kenwood Navi / DVD \| Escort X50 \| F.I 18' CF \| F.I Resonated Test Pipes \| PasswordJDM \| Post MAF Tubes \| K&N Drop In's 297 RWHP 9/25/11 WTB SPARE RIM TIRE. PM ME

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	No LSD in the base model. Honestly though, the open diff and the VLSD are about the same....very ineffective. You'd want a good clutch-type or Torsen diff, especially if you're trying to get sideways.

10-14-2011, 11:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
ScGRaceR Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 33908 Posts: 382 Drives: 2010 Nismo,2008 R32 Rep Power: 16	btw its not base if it has a sport pkg......? someone correct me please if im wrong? __________________ 2010 PW Nismo: GT-R Start / Stop \| Kenwood Navi / DVD \| Escort X50 \| F.I 18' CF \| F.I Resonated Test Pipes \| PasswordJDM \| Post MAF Tubes \| K&N Drop In's 297 RWHP 9/25/11 WTB SPARE RIM TIRE. PM ME

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