Getting lowered without springs?

KamiSpeed · 07-23-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack

Swifts? I should have money in 3 weeks, I just bought Stillen G3 intakes and Stillen HFC's and a number of other ~$100 things. So I kind of spent a bit more than I anticipated after just buying the car.

I have swift springs up for in the suspension thread in market place... if you want something esle like BC coilovers I can get you pricing on that too

Ron · 07-23-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KamiSpeed

need pricing?!?!

Damn opportunists

I kid

Ron · 07-23-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack

I'm going with coilovers. Thanks.

are you really?

you change ur mind like every 2 days..

Stillen, no wait... GTM... no, yes! Stillen...Ghetto lowering, hmm no, swifts... no! coilovers, yeah coilovers..

I thought u said you did not wanna lower the car after riding in mine with swifts..

Synack · 07-23-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

are you really?

you change ur mind like every 2 days..

Stillen, no wait... GTM... no, yes! Stillen...Ghetto lowering, hmm no, swifts... no! coilovers, yeah coilovers..

I thought u said you did not wanna lower the car after riding in mine with swifts..

Coilovers are adjustable, I can put the ride height at whatever I want.

Ron · 07-23-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack

Coilovers are adjustable, I can put the ride height at whatever I want.

So you're gonna get coilovers and ride at stock height? How about some springs that are less aggressive than swifts?

justice · 07-29-2011, 02:55 AM

Hey,

The answer to your question is YES. You can lower your car (slightly) without changing the springs or dampers.

Talk your car to a suspension geometry specialist and ask them to a) check the geometry and b) to release the suspension bushes.

Over time the car 'beds' into its suspension and release of the bushes, letting the car relax and retighting can lower the car by a few mm.

It may be just the ticket your looking for!

J

Synack · 07-29-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by justice

Hey,

The answer to your question is YES. You can lower your car (slightly) without changing the springs or dampers.

Talk your car to a suspension geometry specialist and ask them to a) check the geometry and b) to release the suspension bushes.

Over time the car 'beds' into its suspension and release of the bushes, letting the car relax and retighting can lower the car by a few mm.

It may be just the ticket your looking for!

J

This is actually the sort of answer I was looking for.

Red__Zed · 07-29-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack

This is actually the sort of answer I was looking for.

Let me know how that works out for you.

vividracing · 07-29-2011, 11:27 AM

I'm not trying to be rude, but I've been involved with this industry for a decade. Vivid Racing has been in business for a decade. I worked for a suspension company for 2 years before coming to Vivid.

What your asking to do is not possible, without redesigning suspension components. Sure, on old VWs you can adjust the torsion bars but modern cars don't use torsion bars.

The reason I'm posting is because I don't want to see you doing something unsafe or damage your car just to get a few mm lower. And honestly, re-torqueing all of your suspension is only going to get you a FEW mm lower. As in 1-3mm.

Why is it that you're so against lowering springs?

tjlazer · 07-29-2011, 11:30 AM

If you don't want to lower 1.2 inches you can get springs that lower less like RS*R or Tein H Tech. They lower about .5 to 1" That is what I would do, don't mess with the suspension.

Ron · 07-29-2011, 11:34 AM

couldn't agree more with both of the last 2 posts

cossie1600 · 07-29-2011, 11:59 AM

Sure you can do it, cut the springs

tjlazer · 07-29-2011, 12:09 PM

and you can do it by removing air from tires, removing springs, putting a lot of weight in the car.... lol

vividracing · 07-29-2011, 12:20 PM

I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue

cossie1600 · 07-29-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue

wait a second, you telling me i shouldnt use the stock shocks when i put springs that are 30 to 50% stiffer

07-29-2011, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 39 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 40	I'm not trying to be rude, but I've been involved with this industry for a decade. Vivid Racing has been in business for a decade. I worked for a suspension company for 2 years before coming to Vivid. What your asking to do is not possible, without redesigning suspension components. Sure, on old VWs you can adjust the torsion bars but modern cars don't use torsion bars. The reason I'm posting is because I don't want to see you doing something unsafe or damage your car just to get a few mm lower. And honestly, re-torqueing all of your suspension is only going to get you a FEW mm lower. As in 1-3mm. Why is it that you're so against lowering springs? __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

07-29-2011, 11:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 54 Posts: 2,497 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 21	If you don't want to lower 1.2 inches you can get springs that lower less like RS*R or Tein H Tech. They lower about .5 to 1" That is what I would do, don't mess with the suspension. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

07-29-2011, 12:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 54 Posts: 2,497 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 21	and you can do it by removing air from tires, removing springs, putting a lot of weight in the car.... lol __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

07-29-2011, 12:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 39 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 40	I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

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07-29-2011, 02:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
justice Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1 Drives: Audi A3 Sportback Rep Power: 15	Hey, The answer to your question is YES. You can lower your car (slightly) without changing the springs or dampers. Talk your car to a suspension geometry specialist and ask them to a) check the geometry and b) to release the suspension bushes. Over time the car 'beds' into its suspension and release of the bushes, letting the car relax and retighting can lower the car by a few mm. It may be just the ticket your looking for! J

07-29-2011, 11:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 23	couldn't agree more with both of the last 2 posts

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Sure you can do it, cut the springs

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