Anyone here with Swifts and Koni's that is tracking/AutoX regularly?

I wanna hear your feedback on these!

anyone on swifts with 19inch 9.5 +12 offset in front ? if so provide details, tire size, if fenders were rolled or pulled, and if any pics of stance ?

Would y'all recommend ordering both the rear camber kit and toe bolt then?
I'm thinking or ordering:
Swift springs
SPL rear Camber kit
SPC Toe Bolt
Some brand of 20mm spacers??

Sound about right?

I'm curious as well, I've been contemplating this setup.


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I would say get your swifts and wait a couple weeks then get an alignment. See if you can get back into spec without all that stuff. I was able to go back to factory sodcs without all the extra stuff, so I saved ~$500.

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Alright thanks I'll give that a shot first.

What brand spacers is everyone using? If i do 20mm all around can I get the regular bolt on ones or do I need spacers with the extended studs built onto them?

Look at H&R, Powertrix, or Z1. Some will argue that the stud replacement type are safer, which is likely true as it has less failure points. With that said I was running Powertrix 20mm bolt on type with no issues for nearly a year before I got new wheels. On a street setup I think you will be fine either way long as you go with good quality spacers.

Ok will most likely go with bolt on then since car only sees street.

I have the Swifts with 20mm front and back, during hard right turns at high speeds, the left front will rub a little, not a big deal, if you are not pushing the car hard or going over bumps while turning hard lefts, you won't know. I have the stock Bridgestones w/Sports Pckg 19inch wheels

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20F/25R on Swifts that have not settled - occasional rub on big dips going highway speeds (~70 mph). Houston doesn't have the best of roads though...

Ugh...and I forgot to swap the rubber sleeves from the oem springs to the swifts. They should have it preinstalled on the swifts.

I got Z1 bolt on spacers during black Friday and I havent had any rubbing issues, however I have base wheels.

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Also to weigh in on the bolt on vs extended stud thing, I believe extended studs are safer, but bolt on are more than safe enough. At least for the Z1 ones, theyre built really well. That being said, I have almost brand new H&R 20mm extended stud spacers for sale (4 of them total) that I haven't taken the time to put on the for sale thread yet. $100/set (2).

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I went with corners spacers since they had a deal when purchasing the swift springs. I made sure to use a dab of loctite and retorqued after driving around for a day.

I just got my swift springs installed today and with me sitting in the car FL was -1.5 FR was -1.7 camber. The rears were -1.5 on both sides with camber arms, my question is how long realistically speaking can I expect my tires to last, and what are the stock spec's as far as camber is concerned for a stock car?

Did you do toe bolts too? You will need them if you want the tires to last a month...


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toe kills, brah.

I don't think they're safer. Not unless you can guaranty the strength of the stud extending. Seems scary to have that long of a stud holding your life on the line. Bolt on just seems safer. I've never had a wheel fall off so neither will the spacer or wheel and spacer.

Yes I did the SPC camber arms I believe did come with the toe bolts, so yes.

Just as long as your alignment shows no toe then you should expect good tread life with those camber numbers. Again this depends on your road conditions and driving style too. No worse than stock with those settings.


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I've been reading over the reviews here and Im hooked :tup:
Going order the Swifts along with two toe bolts. Hope that is enough, if the rear don't get under spec,will order the SPC camber arms.

The rear will not get to stock camber without arms. Get the arms. It's worth it.


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:iagree:

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/...psb9101fc7.jpg

I wish drop was slightly more. Still great springs though.

You mean SPL arms.

lol. SPL are nicer for sure. But alas, most of us have the SPC due to cost. But SPL are better! :tup:


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I am finally installing my Swifts (salvaged from my totaled 40th) tomorrow. Oh yeah, Konis are going on as well.

Noice! I've been trying to decide if i want to go with the Koni/Swift combo or do powertrix or BC coilovers. Let me know how you like the koni's!

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It is a great combo...

My only fear is that if I go with that then I'll wish I got coilovers, even though I hardly ever drive to the point where I would actually need them. I just WANT them lol

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I'm planning on getting front & rear camber arms in the next few months. My rear camber (-2.1 and 2.2) and toe (.17 and .14 or something) are both in spec but not ideal for tracking, I'm looking to reduce my camber and overall toe.

My question is, do I need toe arms? Or will I still have enough adjustability with the stock arm. I'm lowered on swifts as well.

For tracking, SPL rear camber arms and toe bolts. Toe bolts are $25 so no reason not to get them.

My swift drop looks a lot lower than yours. But maybe it's the spacers that make the big difference.

Toe arms no, toe bolts yes please. :tup:

I got my toe in spec with the Swifts using the stock toe bolts (on my first 370). it is hit and miss whether you need the aftermarket toe bolts and I think my experience is not unique.

Yea screw it I'm just gonna get the whole package. If only eccentrics didn't slip..

*edit* nvm!

I understand cost but SPC snap which means your life possibly. Id find the few extra dollars to be safe!

The reason not to get them is an eccentric bolt can slip and lose all alignment on the track. You're better off to get or make your own eccentric lockout kit like I did and get traction arms to adjust toe and camber arms for camber.

I don't see how spacers would affect ride height. Are you running OEM wheels? if you are, perhaps the sunken wheel setup gives the illusion of being lower because of the shadow the fenders and quarter panel cast on the wheels.

I was wondering the same thing...

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