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DarkJak 11-02-2012 11:47 AM

Def at least give the back a shot if you have the tools. The shop time to do the fronts vs the backs isn't that different since they have stronger tools, so you'll be saving almost half the money and installing the easy half yourself.

Jordo! 11-03-2012 01:23 PM

Just had mine installed -- after a few days of settling, based on OEM height I'm currently measuring a drop of about an inch all the way around.

To be more precise - OEM height on the Sport Rays: F= 27.87"; R=27.99"; on Swift Spec R: F & R (so far) both = 26.94"

Pics in gallery ("Back in Black!").

onzedge 11-03-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1998017)
Just had mine installed -- after a few days of settling, based on OEM height I'm currently measuring a drop of about an inch all the way around.

To be more precise - OEM height on the Sport Rays: F= 27.87"; R=27.99"; on Swift Spec R: F & R (so far) both = 26.94"

Pics in gallery ("Back in Black!").

:tup:

ZForce 11-03-2012 06:13 PM

Jordo, grats ! Give it few more miles and see them drop another .25 ..IIR. Note: most have seen the passenger rear to be a tad higher even after all four corners settle. No explanation as to why...prob because most weight is always on drivers side..dunno, makes sense thou.

Enjoy them Swifts !

onzedge 11-03-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1998334)
Jordo, grats ! Give it few more miles and see them drop another .25 ..IIR. Note: most have seen the passenger rear to be a tad higher even after all four corners settle. No explanation as to why...prob because most weight is always on drivers side..dunno, makes sense thou.

Enjoy them Swifts !

Curtis!!!!

Hello.

BTW: I put two calls each into Pierre and Chad the week before last and neither returned my messages. :icon14:

ZForce 11-03-2012 06:50 PM

^ Pm'd you.

onzedge 11-03-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1998390)
^ Pm'd you.

You are the man. Thanks.

Mandingo 11-05-2012 06:10 PM

Weird. The passenger rear is actually lower than all the other corners for me.

Just to add to the Swift height database, this is after almost 9K miles:

26.55" driver side front
26.50" passenger side front

26.60" driver side rear
26.35" passenger side rear

For anyone about to install or thinking about installing springs:

Remember to torque down all the pivot point bolts with the suspension under load!

On the front, use a hydraulic jack under the brake disc to raise it up to where it would be while driving, then tighten bolts. The distance between fender and center of wheel bearing is about 14" under normal load with these springs fyi.

I wish I did this the first time around :ugh2:

boilermaker1 11-05-2012 07:18 PM

Hopefully getting my springs today, just need to wait for my tires/wheels to arrive. Waiting sucks!

Jordo! 11-05-2012 07:26 PM

Another day and the car is even lower?!

Current measurements:

F = 26.69"
R = 26.81"

Total drop from OEM now:

F = 1.18" drop (just shy of advertised 1.2")
R = 1.18" drop (over advertised 1"!)

Car looks and feels really, really good (note: Koni yellow shocks with the springs) -- about 1 finger of fender gap between tire and wheel arch.

I'll share some fresh pics later in the week, or whenever I see no further evidence of additional dropping.

binary0x01 11-05-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2001910)
Another day and the car is even lower?!

Current measurements:

F = 26.69"
R = 26.81"

Total drop from OEM now:

F = 1.18" drop (just shy of advertised 1.2")
R = 1.18" drop (over advertised 1"!)

Car looks and feels really, really good (note: Koni yellow shocks with the springs) -- about 1 finger of fender gap between tire and wheel arch.

I'll share some fresh pics later in the week, or whenever I see no further evidence of additional dropping.

What's your settings for the shocks??

I can't wait to get mine on... waiting really sucks ugh.

ZMan8 11-05-2012 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandingo (Post 2001819)
Weird. The passenger rear is actually lower than all the other corners for me.

Just to add to the Swift height database, this is after almost 9K miles:

26.55" driver side front
26.50" passenger side front

26.60" driver side rear
26.35" passenger side rear

For anyone about to install or thinking about installing springs:

Remember to torque down all the pivot point bolts with the suspension under load!

On the front, use a hydraulic jack under the brake disc to raise it up to where it would be while driving, then tighten bolts. The distance between fender and center of wheel bearing is about 14" under normal load with these springs fyi.

I wish I did this the first time around :ugh2:

I wonder if it's normal to have variation like that. Even if it's not a lot.

Jordo! 11-05-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 2002013)
What's your settings for the shocks??

I can't wait to get mine on... waiting really sucks ugh.

I actually attempted to find a shop with a shock dyno in my area so that I'd have a very clear idea what effect changing the setting would have -- and it was a failure (although they seemed to think after playing with each shock that the dial only adjusted rebound rather than compression or both).

The two shops in my area that can do it are set up specifically for Penskes, and had no way to mount the Koni to their dyno :shakes head:

Luckily I know of a very good shop in my area that preps track cars routinely, and has experience with Konis, so I do not know the exact settings, but they told me they were set to "medium firm" (which is kind of meaningless)...

When I go back for an alignment tweak in early December (when I have time and after the springs have completely finished settling), I'll see if I can get more precise info to share.

binary0x01 11-05-2012 11:20 PM

Sounds good bud. My swifts settled already.

rikkiphan1506 11-13-2012 12:52 AM

Hi guys,
I just installed my Swift 3 days ago and I havent had my alignment done yet. I will do it tmr. However, My steering wheel were shaking pretty bad when I drove back home these days. Is it a normal thing that happen when We just installed our Spring or its because of somehting else. My steering wheel was fine after installing the Swift plus the front spacers. I think its either the Spacers or the Spring. I am just worried but will get alignment done by tmr. Hope u guys can help! Thanks

ZForce 11-13-2012 08:23 AM

Spacers

onzedge 11-13-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2013725)
Spacers

:iagree:

corner3garage 11-14-2012 06:20 PM

Definitely spacers, even some of our customers with the higher quality H&R spacers have this problem when using them on the front!

GTLAW 11-16-2012 06:48 AM

Never go cheap on wheel spacers! I would only buy H&R


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ZForce 11-22-2012 11:52 AM

:iagree:

Jordo! 11-22-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rikkiphan1506 (Post 2013549)
Hi guys,
I just installed my Swift 3 days ago and I havent had my alignment done yet. I will do it tmr. However, My steering wheel were shaking pretty bad when I drove back home these days. Is it a normal thing that happen when We just installed our Spring or its because of somehting else. My steering wheel was fine after installing the Swift plus the front spacers. I think its either the Spacers or the Spring. I am just worried but will get alignment done by tmr. Hope u guys can help! Thanks

It could also be the alignment. Did you include rear camber arms? If it feels really squirrelly, your toe settings may be off.

JungleZ 11-23-2012 02:20 PM

I'm still scared to get these springs, I feel like I will ruin my f1 exhaust and I already scrape that black under spoiler guard.

I just don't want the saggy spring too low look

Alchemy 11-24-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2029908)
I'm still scared to get these springs, I feel like I will ruin my f1 exhaust and I already scrape that black under spoiler guard.

I just don't want the saggy spring too low look

Good, you wont get this with the Swifts:tup:

Swifts are about the best bang for your buck mod you can do to the 370. They increase the handling a ton and give it a much needed drop. Get $600 bucks together, buy some Swifts, a set of sway bars and itll handle 7834989 times better.

onzedge 11-24-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 2030780)
Good, you wont get this with the Swifts:tup:

Swifts are about the best bang for your buck mod you can do to the 370. They increases the handling a ton and give it a much needed drop. Get $600 bucks together, buy some Swifts, a set of sway bars and itll handle 7834989 times better.

:iagree:

JungleZ 11-24-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 2030780)
Good, you wont get this with the Swifts:tup:

Swifts are about the best bang for your buck mod you can do to the 370. They increase the handling a ton and give it a much needed drop. Get $600 bucks together, buy some Swifts, a set of sway bars and itll handle 7834989 times better.

thanks, ya i already got the PSS that helped my handling tremendously thanks the mronzedge praise. Swift springs are for sure next. Some questions`

-will i be ok with 20mm spacers all around?
-Also i will need an alignment for sure right?
-What about camber toe stuff! If i dont really care about tire wear does it matter or does it help your handling.

tjlazer 11-24-2012 03:07 PM

I have the FI exhaust and Swift and have only scraped one time in over 2 years. Took a speed bump on angle and touched one can, its fine barely touched it. Just take speed bumps head on and you will be fine.

edub370 11-27-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2029908)
I'm still scared to get these springs, I feel like I will ruin my f1 exhaust and I already scrape that black under spoiler guard.

I just don't want the saggy spring too low look

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2031045)
thanks, ya i already got the PSS that helped my handling tremendously thanks the mronzedge praise. Swift springs are for sure next. Some questions`

-will i be ok with 20mm spacers all around?
-Also i will need an alignment for sure right?
-What about camber toe stuff! If i dont really care about tire wear does it matter or does it help your handling.

spacer size will depend on what wheels u are running. if factory, then 20's all around should be ok. swift springs definately not give u a crappy saggy spring look. in orger to not scrape u will jsut have to be aware of potholes, and entrances. take angles, and go slow.

u will deifnately need an alignment. with swifts the front camber can remain just in spec. while the rear will be JUST outside of factory spec. not enough to make a big difference on tire wear


here's a pic of the stance of my car with jsut swifts.

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...ure57508-1.jpg

as u can see, its not like they "slam" your car or anything. just give you a nice mild drop to take out some wheel gap.

also, as i'm sure many can atest too, your car will be much less twitchy under mid corner bumps with these springs.

blueranger 11-29-2012 11:08 PM

Once dropped on Swifts how do you guys deal with the small plastic air dams that are right in front of the front wheels?

It seems these little plastic pieces scrape everything even at stock height?

I appreciate your feedback.

Alchemy 11-30-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 2039607)
Once dropped on Swifts how do you guys deal with the small plastic air dams that are right in front of the front wheels?

It seems these little plastic pieces scrape everything even at stock height?

I appreciate your feedback.

Im not gonna lie, mine scrape on EVERYTHING.

ZForce 11-30-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 2039607)
Once dropped on Swifts how do you guys deal with the small plastic air dams that are right in front of the front wheels?

It seems these little plastic pieces scrape everything even at stock height?

I appreciate your feedback.

No worries, they are flexible and bend with every scrape.

Mandingo 11-30-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 2039607)
Once dropped on Swifts how do you guys deal with the small plastic air dams that are right in front of the front wheels?

It seems these little plastic pieces scrape everything even at stock height?

I appreciate your feedback.

I took mine off. They also scraped going up the rhino ramps I use. They've been sitting in my garage for 1.5 years!

I understand their purpose, but I haven't noticed any ill effects at highway speed without them.

Felix 808 11-30-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2039848)
No worries, they are flexible and bend with every scrape.

Actually, you might say they are self clearing. Scrape them enough & they'll stop scraping ;)

blueranger 11-30-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 2039770)
Im not gonna lie, mine scrape on EVERYTHING.

Your exhaust or the plastic pieces up front?

Thanks for your reply :tiphat::tiphat:

blueranger 11-30-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandingo (Post 2040198)
I took mine off. They also scraped going up the rhino ramps I use. They've been sitting in my garage for 1.5 years!

I understand their purpose, but I haven't noticed any ill effects at highway speed without them.

What is their purpose?

Mandingo 11-30-2012 10:23 PM

Look up Bernoulli's principle and aircraft flight dynamics. Its the exact same idea.

Essentially, lift can be generated at high speeds by creating an area of relative high pressure under the chassis.

The chin spoiler and little air dams serve to redirect the flow somewhat to negate this effect I believe.

Alchemy 12-01-2012 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 2041257)
Your exhaust or the plastic pieces up front?

Thanks for your reply :tiphat::tiphat:

Plastic pieces.

raymondo510 12-03-2012 11:44 PM

Question.. I was thinking about getting the HR springs because it seemed like they had more of a drop, but I was comparting the specs to the swifts and it says that they are the same? It also seems like the swift are better performance wise. Any thoughts?

Felix 808 12-04-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymondo510 (Post 2044928)
Question.. I was thinking about getting the HR springs because it seemed like they had more of a drop, but I was comparting the specs to the swifts and it says that they are the same? It also seems like the swift are better performance wise. Any thoughts?


Function over fashion for me. I got the Swifts for the performance.

All depends on what you want. If it's just a drop you want, you can save a few $$$. I wanted performance not a drop, but it came with the performance so it stays ;)

raymondo510 12-04-2012 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 2044940)
Function over fashion for me. I got the Swifts for the performance.

All depends on what you want. If it's just a drop you want, you can save a few $$$. I wanted performance not a drop, but it came with the performance so it stays ;)

Well I definatly dont mind the performance gain, the more I read this thread it seems like swifts are the way to go

JAYNO20 12-04-2012 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corner3garage (Post 2016511)
Definitely spacers, even some of our customers with the higher quality H&R spacers have this problem when using them on the front!

is this a problem with all spacers even with a proper alignment?


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