Thank you for making that correction....for a while it made me think what the hell is a camper? I thought hmmm..is he gonna install the springs in the woods?

I do have camber kits on the rear SPC. None in front so far made it inside the specs.

Same here --- SPC in the rear and stock in the front. My car aligns perfectly on spec.

:iagree: may need the toe bolts...buy the SPC camber kit with the toe bolts. Saves $$$ if you need them at some point. As most do...:tup:

Well I was finally able to get that passenger side control arm bolt off. My 350 ft lb impact wrench was doing nothing and my neighbor came over with a 900 ft lb air impact wrench and after hitting it a few times with that it broke free. Finished everything up a week ago today at midnight. Got an alignment done Sunday. So haven't gotten to do any extensive driving but feels smooth as before no harshness. Next up for suspension will be sway bars. I didn't get before pics and then realized I didn't have any before side pics. My apologies. Enough jibba jabba here are the pics.

Before
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After
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Hi guys,
I know this is not a very smart question but I hope u guys can help me to open my knowledge. As I have been reading, Some says that they use the combo of KONI & Swift. Does that mean that Koni coilover + swift spring on top? Is that ok if we use Stance coilver + Swift spring on top? is that also mean that we took the spring on the Coilover out and put the Swift spring on?

In my case Koni and Swift = Swift springs with Koni strut (in the front) and shocks/dampers in the rear -- not coil-overs.

The Koni & Swift combo means that they replace the oem strut/shock with the koni strut/shocks & use swift lowering springs with them. This is a nice combo if you're looking for a stiffer, more track oriented suspension setup.

As for the Stance coilovers. These will use a different type of Swift springs, these won't be the 370Z Swift Spec R lowering springs, but universal linear metric coilover springs. These springs come in different sizes and spring rates to customize the coilover's performance/characteristics to your liking/needs.

Hopefully this helped clear some questions up. :tup:

Thanks, it definitely helps a lot. :)

Ordered the Koni Yellows from KamiSpeed, next best quote was 25 bux less but I went with KamiSpeed since I've done business with them before and their customer service was excellent both times.

I was told that the 'floaty' feeling during fast driving over uneven surfaces will be gone since the shocks will be stiff; here's hoping for that being true. I didn't want to get coils because I have Swift springs and they are great from personal experience of 4K miles on em now. I've read nothing but good things about Koni + Swift on here.

Anyways, I'll report back after Seb@SpecialtyZ does the install. I'll also ask him to install the 20/25MM spacers for me since the wheels will be off anyway. I got base wheels and will post pics after all is done.

Thanks to everyone on this forum for great info in this thread. Of all the car fourms I've checked out, this one is really special... without bias :)

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Hey onzedge, what settings are you using front/rear for your shocks?

I just installed 20F/25R and rear camber kit, Lowered on Swift. I was wondering, what are the alignment specs for people who is running same setup. Thank you!

From what many of my customers have been telling me the swift springs bring the camber in the front to about negative 1.8-2 degrees camber and in the rear about negative 2-2.5 degrees of negative camber.

I set the rears to one click lower (softer) than the middle setting and the fronts right in the middle. I originally had the fronts and rears one click stiffer than these settings, but the car was too "bouncy" and had to soften them by one click each to my current settings. Having the fronts slightly stiffer than the rears helps a great deal with turn-in.

You are gonna love the setup, dude.

Koni + Swift enables me to demolish twisties:tup:

Mr. Alchemy writes the truth. :tup:

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Sweet :)

What are your settings Alchemy?

Just installed my swift sprifts and are really happy!!!!!!

I dont quite remember. I was playing with the settings a lot and forget where I ended up leaving them:icon17: I have been feeling that I would like them a bit stiffer lately though.

The reason that you are getting the "floaty" feeling is because of the shock bound and rebound rates aren't paired or designed to work with the spring that you have. When you do get the kw3's you can adjust the valving to where it eliminates it. But on the other hand when you start to adjust it to be a little stiffer, your handling will change a lot. Just a fyi imho, im lookin to get the stance coilover kit here in the near future.

That's why I've decided to go with the Koni Yellows based on the reports from the guys that have them paired with the swifts.

When you adjust em again, let me know where you get em set, since we'll have the same suspension setup springs/shocks combo.

That is funny you say that because all of our customers that we install koni's on seem to just keep their settings the same!

I bought adjustables for a reason:tup:

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how's the ride after several thousand miles? i still have mine sitting in a box, waiting to get some free time to install them.

No firmer than stock. Just lower and handles better.

Nissan truly developed some fantastic dampening for the Z. I've never driven a sports car that rides this compliantly, being this low. There are cars with bigger wheel gaps that are much stiffer over every bump - the 370Z is simply triumphant in that regard. That's why I love this car so much.

The swifts ride even better with 2013 euro-tuned shocks Nissan is providing with the 2013 model. Much better ride than Konica swift combo. And the twistes are awesome.

Hmmm....

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Hummnnn.....I can say, that I have driven both setups. Can you ? :icon18:

You did not let me drive your car last time you were here. Whose did you drive with Koni/Swift? Are you cheating on me?????

What do you mean by 'better'? You can adjust the Koni's, can you adjust the euro-tuned shocks?

I'm sure you can make them ride the same, but it all depends on how you end up feeling the car. I like the fact that the shocks can be adjusted. Cost me $250 over the euro-tuned price.

You did not let me drive yours the last two times I was over at your house......hurt. A buddy of mines friend was visiting from out of town, not on the forum. Setup was one full turn the fronts and three clicks up from soft on the rear. They rode just like my 350z setup I had, stiff for daily driving, can you say where's the nearest chiropractor (for this old man). Like I said in my previous post it's a personal opinion and preference, me wanting a smooth daily drive.

It felt like the rear was trying to keep in tune with the front. Maybe the setup was off. Again guys not to deter anyone getting the Konica/swift setup...it was just not for me. Like I said before they ride a bit stiffer and are better suited for track use.

Why would I want them to be adjustable? The combo with spring rate and valving of the euro tuned are a perfect match. Any more compression on the shock would just ruin the ride. Problem with Konica and has always been a gripe is that their shock is only setup for compression and no rebound. If I were to pay the extra $250 for them I would want rebound also. Take a look at my previous post a few pages back. I give my opinion and it is just one persons opinion and may not be what everyone else is looking for a performance suspension setup. My apologies if I was vague with my statement of "better". I am sure their are a lot of happy members with the Konica/swift setup, just not me.

Hmm....decisions...decisions now. Do I go with the Koni's....or the 2013 Euro-Tuned shocks...

I smell a vote coming on...

Wow what a great review!! Thank you so much for that share!!

Do you mind if we repost?

Thanks!!

Thanks, and sure repost. My iPad has not learned the word Koni yet and still edits it to Konica. Hopefully soon I will open a separate thread on the Swift/Euro Tuned setup.

does $180 installation for these sound about right?

That is a pretty good price. The cheapest I found around here was $250. I felt that was too much and decided to tackle the job over a weekend.

^I agree!

I called around a few different shops and $250 was the cheapest. The back springs take about 45 minutes each at most and you don't even need a spring compressor. The front will take a little bit longer because you need to remove the shock as well.

Definitely give it a shot yourself to save some $$.