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Telephone 02-25-2012 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1526131)
Swifts are :yum: Just got my Koni Yellows in yesterday. Cant wait to pair them w my Swifts!!!

Can we get an update on the Koni/Swift combo? Please :)

Jason23 02-25-2012 08:53 PM

I have the koni/swift setup on my 2012 Z. I would say it compliments the spring very well ( Aside the minor ) weeping on my adjustment knob on my front right shocks. Anyways if anyone is thinking about purchasing the koni's dont hesitate. ( still playing with the adjustment ( rebound ) settings to suite my riding style/comfort :) btw i purchased and install the koni's and swift at Amplified Motorsport. Also the drop is alittle lower with this combo...but its bad AZZZ ..........

Telephone 02-25-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason23 (Post 1565678)
I have the koni/swift setup on my 2012 Z. I would say it compliments the spring very well ( Aside the minor ) weeping on my adjustment knob on my front right shocks. Anyways if anyone is thinking about purchasing the koni's dont hesitate. ( still playing with the adjustment ( rebound ) settings to suite my riding style/comfort :) btw i purchased and install the koni's and swift at Amplified Motorsport. Also the drop is alittle lower with this combo...but its bad AZZZ ..........

Thanks for the feedback. Please keep us posted.

I just got my Z. I'm honestly wondering if it's worth the extra expense for the Konis. That's well over a $1000 for the combo. For that kind of money, I can't ignore the fact that I'd be well into coilover territory.

zguynate 02-26-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason23 (Post 1565678)
I have the koni/swift setup on my 2012 Z. I would say it compliments the spring very well ( Aside the minor ) weeping on my adjustment knob on my front right shocks. Anyways if anyone is thinking about purchasing the koni's dont hesitate. ( still playing with the adjustment ( rebound ) settings to suite my riding style/comfort :) btw i purchased and install the koni's and swift at Amplified Motorsport. Also the drop is alittle lower with this combo...but its bad AZZZ ..........

Get some pictures posted of the new height! Id be interested into seeing the difference.

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1565855)
Thanks for the feedback. Please keep us posted.

I just got my Z. I'm honestly wondering if it's worth the extra expense for the Konis. That's well over a $1000 for the combo. For that kind of money, I can't ignore the fact that I'd be well into coilover territory.

The only thing is you would have a better performing spring/shock combo than most of the cheaper sets of coilovers. So you would still have better "bang for your buck".

Most cheaper coilovers have horrible damping, or at least thats what I have heard. That and you would have better springs than what would come on the coilovers as well.

area3z 02-26-2012 07:38 AM

Can anyone comment on the life expectancy of the stock sport shock after swift spring installation?

zguynate 02-26-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by area3z (Post 1566338)
Can anyone comment on the life expectancy of the stock sport shock after swift spring installation?

+1 I would also like to know if anyone has any estimates.

CFZ 02-27-2012 07:02 PM

Im probably one of the first people to purchase these springs, and I have not replaced my shocks yet. The car is a daily driver and the shocks are still running really strong. Now Im sure it depends on what roads you drive on, on a daily basis. I live in California and for those of you who live in Socal would understand but I drive about 70 miles back and forth from work. I live in the Orange County area and I work in LA. So the drive around OC is fairly nice, but once you get to LA the road get a little crazy. Especially off the 101N. Now Im sure a lot of people reading this on the east coast might Im full of crap compared to their roads, but none the less my point is that I have clocked in enough miles on the this setup to show its durability.

I will eventually buy the Koni shocks when the shocks feel tired, but these springs are made around the stock shocks and if the stockies can dampen these springs, and hold the test of time, I dont see what the reason is for me to change it out. At least for now. I dont think its a dumb idea to switch however. I have spoken to the tech guys at Swift and they do say that you will only improve the ride (handling characteristics) with upgraded shocks to better dampen the springs, but the stock will work just fine.

sfearl1 02-27-2012 07:05 PM

^^ thanks for checking in. great info, repped.

Super Red Z 03-01-2012 08:55 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/super...54-1050002.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/super...55-1050008.jpg

Some pics of my car after installed Swifts? I love every minutes of it except the noise when I up and down my drive way.LOL

KB2 03-22-2012 05:45 PM

drop looks great !! ^ i need these.

JJ-NISMO 03-24-2012 04:08 AM

Gents, I have noticed that my shocks are beginning to feel a little worn compared to when I first put the Swifts on. I have the Nismo, which may be different than most, but has anyone else had issues?

Like CFZ, I live in Orange County, and drive my car often. I notice at high speed, when I hit a ridge or a bump, the shocks make a louder compressing noise, like air is being forced out of them. Any thoughts?

CFZ 03-27-2012 06:29 PM

the squish sound is normal on twin tube shocks. How many miles have you driven on your shocks?

Dembflyr 03-27-2012 08:17 PM

I was able to take my car for a long cruise today. It's the first one since I swapped back to my sport shocks and added the Swift springs. I was on the nismo springs and shocks.

I am extremely happy with the ride quality. The nismo suspension was stiff and very bouncy. The Swifts are definitely stiffer than the sport but it's a smooth ride. It's not bouncy at all. The car feels like it handles just as good as it did with the nismo. Maybe a bit better. Rather than feeling twitchy in bumpy corners it takes the bumps much better while staying planted. Basically it gives you a better feel in the corners.

The ride is a bit lower than I am used to but it looks good. I just have to adjust my driving style to avoid dips in the road. And I don't have any issues getting into my driveway which is a good thing.

I did install rear camber arms with my Swift springs. I wanted to take out most of the camber to get the best contact patch due to the fact that I have a lot of excess power.
My alignment specs came in well except for rear toe. I have the toe bolts but I didn't think I needed them. I will install them and get the alignment redone. I think my car would've needed at least toe bolts even if I didn't do the camber arms.

So far I am very happy that I went with Swift.

slo 03-27-2012 09:33 PM

Just got my Swifts installed last Saturday, I used to be a die hard Tanabe spring follower since they did extremely well on two cars. Made the switch to Eibachs and it blew my struts in under 9 months on my g35, tried again for my EVO X and it rode like cr*p from day 1.

The Swifts I knew would be good due to all the positive details mentioned across many platforms but I was still slightly doubtfull. After having them on my car, I can say that I no longer have any doubts. The ride is firm without being bouncy, when I hit a bump along my way home mid-turn, it doesn't sway the car like being on a boat.

Strange but it does seem to soak up the bumps a little more comfortably but firm at the same time. Good looking drop, not too much and just barely enough clearance to get in my driveway.

Telephone 03-28-2012 12:14 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I am installing Swifts and Konis on Saturday. I admit that I'm a little worried about how the car will ride an handle.

Verbal21 03-28-2012 05:42 AM

Looks like I've found the perfect springs. What camber kit would you guys recommend for the year and the best place to get a set of these springs? I see a few vendors in the market selling these.

Telephone 03-29-2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal21 (Post 1625052)
Looks like I've found the perfect springs. What camber kit would you guys recommend for the year and the best place to get a set of these springs? I see a few vendors in the market selling these.

The site sponsors will hook you up...all you have to do is ask them. I got good deals on Swift Springs, SPC camber kits, and H&R spacers. Just PM them for a price. Most accept PayPal too :)

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JJ-NISMO 03-29-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal21 (Post 1625052)
Looks like I've found the perfect springs. What camber kit would you guys recommend for the year and the best place to get a set of these springs? I see a few vendors in the market selling these.



Contact Lou at Amplified and he will set you up. He is active on the forums and always is fair with pricing.

I went with an SPL rear camber kit. So far so good.

edub370 03-29-2012 12:55 PM

couple of pics to try and illustrate hose swifts make the car sit:


http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...9486-sub-4.jpg


http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...9484-sub-2.jpg

btw these things ride so much better than stock. take out all that jittery bouncy feeling u get when hitting mid corners bumps. that was my biggest beef with the factory springs

corner3garage 03-29-2012 01:31 PM

Since we have been selling the swifts, we havent seen any 370z's that have NEEDED to replace shocks! Many of our customers still say that their shocks feel mostly the same as when they first installed the swifts.

cavemancan 04-02-2012 11:18 AM

I sent you a PM.

Telephone 04-03-2012 12:31 AM

Well I got my Swifts, Konis, camber kits, toe bolts, and spacers installed this weekend. Swift advised me to wait one week before getting an alignment. My question is: Can I leave it parked all that time? The car is very squirly now...to the point where I find it unsafe on the freeway. Everytime I change lanes and drive over a lane reflecttor or uneven surface, the car shakes and feels like it's sliding slide-to-side. It's quite unnerving actually. I'd rather not drive it for now.

sfearl1 04-03-2012 12:37 AM

that doesn't sound right. i had swifts installed two weeks ago and the car is very stable (still needs an alignment). take the car back and have the shop that did the installation double-check their work.

CFZ 04-03-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1636593)
that doesn't sound right. i had swifts installed two weeks ago and the car is very stable (still needs an alignment). take the car back and have the shop that did the installation double-check their work.

With all those installed at once. It just definitely needs an alignment. Try not to drive it until you get it fully aligned because its going to destroy your tires.

slo 04-03-2012 11:22 AM

+1, definitely get it aligned, if you got just springs, you could easily get away with riding around a week or two to let new springs settle, but once you start replacing other parts related to the suspension, gotta get it done.


Just my opinions....here:
I would have the alignment shop just leave +.2 or +.3 or so (different opinions) so that it does have a little room to settle for camber.

litesky 04-04-2012 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1636584)
Well I got my Swifts, Konis, camber kits, toe bolts, and spacers installed this weekend. Swift advised me to wait one week before getting an alignment. My question is: Can I leave it parked all that time? The car is very squirly now...to the point where I find it unsafe on the freeway. Everytime I change lanes and drive over a lane reflecttor or uneven surface, the car shakes and feels like it's sliding slide-to-side. It's quite unnerving actually. I'd rather not drive it for now.

I did almost the same thing. Camber kits, springs, toe bolts. Couldn't drive the car over 50 mph. Get an alignment soon.

FricFrac 04-04-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1636584)
Well I got my Swifts, Konis, camber kits, toe bolts, and spacers installed this weekend. Swift advised me to wait one week before getting an alignment. My question is: Can I leave it parked all that time? The car is very squirly now...to the point where I find it unsafe on the freeway. Everytime I change lanes and drive over a lane reflecttor or uneven surface, the car shakes and feels like it's sliding slide-to-side. It's quite unnerving actually. I'd rather not drive it for now.

It sounds like the shop who did the install didn't take any base measurements to get it close to aligned so it's way out of spec with all the adjustable components. Driving the car is going to get it to settle in a lot more than it just sitting there however it sounds like its so far out it's not safe to drive. You are probably best to let it set for a week have it aligned towards the outside specs to allow room for when it settles. You might just have to have it re-aligned a second time but it's not worth messing around with a safety and performance issue to save $100.

Telephone 04-04-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 1639089)
It sounds like the shop who did the install didn't take any base measurements to get it close to aligned so it's way out of spec with all the adjustable components. Driving the car is going to get it to settle in a lot more than it just sitting there however it sounds like its so far out it's not safe to drive. You are probably best to let it set for a week have it aligned towards the outside specs to allow room for when it settles. You might just have to have it re-aligned a second time but it's not worth messing around with a safety and performance issue to save $100.

I don't think it's fair to fault the shop entirely, if at all. This was a big job that included front & rear camber kits. I knew I would need an alignment, yet didn't anticipate such squirrelly handling after the install.

Appointment for alignment has been made for SAT. I'll request outside specs as you mentioned. Thanks.

cavemancan 04-05-2012 09:40 PM

How bad is the alignment in the front post spring install? Can they align it with in spec? How bad is the tire wear after it's all said and done?

KaienZ34 04-05-2012 09:59 PM

I think you can get the front back to spec, but to get the rear back to spec you'll need a camber kit.

cavemancan 04-06-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1643147)
I think you can get the front back to spec, but to get the rear back to spec you'll need a camber kit.

I just bought the rear camber kit including the toe bolts to accompany the Swift springs. I hope the front doesn't get to far out of spec. I want a little bit more negative camber in the front for handling but not so much it will eat the tires much faster.

Telephone 04-08-2012 05:00 AM

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Well, I got my car aligned today and it completely fixed the bazaar handling issues I was experiencing after the install last week. The tech eliminated the excess camber as requested. The car handles great now. The ride is stiff and stable. My passenger side is slightly higher than the driver side. As for the Konis...I have them on the softest setting and plan on keeping it that way for this daily driven Z.

KaienZ34 04-08-2012 08:40 AM

Glad you got it worked out. If your on swifts, how can one side be lower than the other?

sfearl1 04-08-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1646322)
Glad you got it worked out. If your on swifts, how can one side be lower than the other?

that's a good question... i had that issue w/ a set of RS-R's on my 350. never figured out what caused it, and it bugged the sh1t outta me!

my Z is flat as a pancake on the swifts :happydance:

KaienZ34 04-08-2012 09:30 AM

I hope mine is after, i'll be picking up a used set with about 3,200 miles on them next weekend.

Telephone 04-08-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1646322)
Glad you got it worked out. If your on swifts, how can one side be lower than the other?

It baffles me too. I'm only 150lbs

ZForce 04-08-2012 03:22 PM

Sounds like the swift Koni combo is too rough of a ride for DD even at the soft setting. At least from the feedback I an hearing. Had the same issue on my old 350z paired with Koni and H&R. May just go with oem replacement and save the $$ and my back. Still will hold out until I make a first hand judgement with a buddies car with same setup. A big difference in money between the two, 500 for oem vs 1000 for Koni.
Btw..swift designed their spring around the design of the oem shock not Koni. So how can the swift Koni combo give better performance unless swift designed another spring to work with Koni which I doubt. Ineteresting........still on the fence here.

Telephone 04-09-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1646813)
Sounds like the swift Koni combo is too rough of a ride for DD even at the soft setting. At least from the feedback I an hearing. Had the same issue on my old 350z paired with Koni and H&R. May just go with oem replacement and save the $$ and my back. Still will hold out until I make a first hand judgement with a buddies car with same setup. A big difference in money between the two, 500 for oem vs 1000 for Koni.
Btw..swift designed their spring around the design of the oem shock not Koni. So how can the swift Koni combo give better performance unless swift designed another spring to work with Koni which I doubt. Ineteresting........still on the fence here.

Honestly...I say forget the Konis if you're daily driving your car. I don't hear too many complaints from the guys who have Swifts/factory shocks. I never drove my Z with the Swifts and stock shocks, but I can tell you that the Swift/Koni combo is NOT a smooth ride at the softest setting. If you have smooth roads where you live or you're a track junkie...then maybe Konis are a good choice for you. But I live and daily-drive in the real world, and a choppy ride gets old. I think I'll drive the car for a month and then decide whether or not to put the factory shocks back on. I actually want to drive another 370Z with Swifts/factory shocks to compare before I make a decision.

I bought the Konis because they just happened to go on sale before my Swift install. I was lead to believe that Konis were the logical addition to aftermarket springs. Now I'm left wondering if I made a $860 mistake:ugh2:

I'm not saying 'stay away from Koni'. But there was a lot of hype on this forum saying that Konis were going to be awesome and would be the best bet for aftermarket springs. I gotta call BS on that. Most of that hype started before Koni even released their 370Z shocks/struts...before anybody bought/drove them. Perhaps Swifts are best paired with factory shocks afterall? Perhaps Koni is better paired with a softer spring rate...or for the hardcore guys?

Just trying to give you guys honest feedback. I'll keep you posted.

Alchemy 04-09-2012 06:41 AM

I have my Koni's sitting here awaiting install, ordered them as soon as they were released. I dont expect the Koni/Swift combo to be anything but brilliant.

cavemancan 04-09-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1647741)
Honestly...I say forget the Konis if you're daily driving your car. I don't hear too many complaints from the guys who have Swifts/factory shocks. I never drove my Z with the Swifts and stock shocks, but I can tell you that the Swift/Koni combo is NOT a smooth ride at the softest setting. If you have smooth roads where you live or you're a track junkie...then maybe Konis are a good choice for you. But I live and daily-drive in the real world, and a choppy ride gets old. I think I'll drive the car for a month and then decide whether or not to put the factory shocks back on. I actually want to drive another 370Z with Swifts/factory shocks to compare before I make a decision.

I bought the Konis because they just happened to go on sale before my Swift install. I was lead to believe that Konis were the logical addition to aftermarket springs. Now I'm left wondering if I made a $860 mistake:ugh2:

I'm not saying 'stay away from Koni'. But there was a lot of hype on this forum saying that Konis were going to be awesome and would be the best bet for aftermarket springs. I gotta call BS on that. Most of that hype started before Koni even released their 370Z shocks/struts...before anybody bought/drove them. Perhaps Swifts are best paired with factory shocks afterall? Perhaps Koni is better paired with a softer spring rate...or for the hardcore guys?

Just trying to give you guys honest feedback. I'll keep you posted.

As a contrast to your review above I offer the following:

I would say your criteria does not match the spring/shock combo you picked. That does not mean the Koni's plus Swift's won't be an amazing combo for autocross/racing.

Koni's combined with many spring manufacturers these days make for a very strong weekend track car. You can't beat the value of the Koni shocks. I've owned a set on my Rx8 that I recently sold and plan to go back to them as soon as possible.

Not to mention the factory shocks have this Bouncy characteristic to them at high speeds that I feel is on the verge of being extremely dangerous. Any track junky should get the stock shocks replaced as soon as possible or risk upsetting the car at high speed going over uneven pavement.


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