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cheshirecat 05-27-2011 06:47 AM

They're at the top also- just held on to the top bucket by metal shim things.

TeamMancusoSW 05-27-2011 09:22 PM

Where are my springs at? I'm so impatient

Z_bro 05-29-2011 09:13 PM

I ordered the swift springs and 20/25mm spacers I'm excited to do my first mod!

KamiSpeed 05-30-2011 11:00 AM

Hey I got an update from Swift and it seems their shipment has been delayed for some issues I was not told about, anyways so it seems it'll be another week or two :(

Red__Zed 05-30-2011 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1124728)
No not the front camber but the rear. Different camber on rears based on non adjustable control arms up front. It makes the rear the 0.3 difference from the front.

So if you have up front (drivers side) -1.4 then the drivers side rear should be 0.3 difference which places it at -1.1. Same would go for the passenger side, whatever the non adjustable front is then minus 0.3 and you get your setting for the rear camber. Therefore no matter what the fronts are reading on camber the rears would be 0.3 difference on both sides on the rear.


As far as the 0.3 degrees difference goes, thats about normal for a front engine rear drive street car. The reason you need more negative camber up front....that's because the car has a front biased weight distribution (as front engine cars usually do). That means that in corners, the front is going to have more inertia than the rear, so it will fight you a bit when you are turning. That means that it will want to understeer slightly. To fight that tendency, we add a little more camber up front than in the rear.

It's only a suggestion as it appears you have a grip on the issue and a sound plan of attack to resolve it. Don't mind my yammering, I am still learning this stuff and I know you have more knowledge and experience.
So as to not throw a monkey wrench into it, I will gracefiully bow out and listen and learn. :tiphat:

That's far too upright for the front, and especially the rears. I'm thinking about running 2.1-5 out back and 2.8+ up front. I'm probably running a more aggressive setup than most though.

Red__Zed 05-30-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_bro (Post 1140692)
I ordered the swift springs and 20/25mm spacers I'm excited to do my first mod!

you ever get in touch with my friend?

ZForce 05-30-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1141245)
That's far too upright for the front, and especially the rears. I'm thinking about running 2.1-5 out back and 2.8+ up front. I'm probably running a more aggressive setup than most though.

Control arms here we come! Sounds good on the camber setup, front and back. Let us know how it performs.

I am going to get another alignment done before the run on June 18. I wish I had upper control arms...but the piggy bank was busted after new springs and tires.

ZForce 05-30-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_bro (Post 1140692)
I ordered the swift springs and 20/25mm spacers I'm excited to do my first mod!

You will like the stance, I have that same setup,my pics with standard OEM tires on sport rims are on this thread, back a few pages.

Red__Zed 05-30-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1141301)
Control arms here we come! Sounds good on the camber setup, front and back. Let us know how it performs.

I am going to get another alignment done before the run on June 18. I wish I had upper control arms...but the piggy bank was busted after new springs and tires.

haha, I feel ya there. This stuff adds up!

stephen 05-30-2011 01:32 PM

anyone experiencing a squeek from front after installing springs?

Ron 05-30-2011 01:46 PM

not me :D

Did you install the rubber thing at the bottom of the spring?

ArtK 05-30-2011 03:45 PM

I just ordered my Swift springs, waiting impatiently for them to come in now.:excited:
It appears that there is quite a diverse opinion on whether or not to add a camber and toe kit for the front and rear of the Z once the swift springs are installed. I read through the majority, probably half of, the 44 pages and quite a few of you say no camber or toe is necessary to make proper adjustments the other half say yes. So my question is if I am putting on 20" wheels, and I'm sure many of you have already learned trial an error, should i put camber and toe adjustments on, and which brand is recommended. My Z is not a daily driver but when I do drive it I want to be able to drive without worrying about screwing up a $500 tire, or when I bring it to the track not have the car perform properly.
Not sure what to do?????

Red__Zed 05-30-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtK (Post 1141582)
I just ordered my Swift springs, waiting impatiently for them to come in now.:excited:
It appears that there is quite a diverse opinion on whether or not to add a camber and toe kit for the front and rear of the Z once the swift springs are installed. I read through the majority, probably half of, the 44 pages and quite a few of you say no camber or toe is necessary to make proper adjustments the other half say yes. So my question is if I am putting on 20" wheels, and I'm sure many of you have already learned trial an error, should i put camber and toe adjustments on, and which brand is recommended. My Z is not a daily driver but when I do drive it I want to be able to drive without worrying about screwing up a $500 tire, or when I bring it to the track not have the car perform properly.
Not sure what to do?????


Depends on your goals. If you just want to go back to factory spec, you will need rear camber arms with toe bolts. The fronts should stay within spec.

The rears can usually be adjusted back to around 2.5* of camber, and for a lot of people that is acceptable. I'm leaving mine like that.

stephen 05-30-2011 06:25 PM

i sure did ron, its a creaking noise

Ron 05-30-2011 06:32 PM

hmm, did you make sure everything was tighten?

PapoZalsa 05-30-2011 08:15 PM

I'm waiting to get paid in a few days to order mines plus the rear camber kit w/toe bolt. That way is all done at once. Then get the spacers and get an alignment after the springs settle.

Fern to the Z 05-30-2011 10:01 PM

what is this about "rear camber arms with toe bolts" i thought that with swift springs one didn't need any additional parts other than an alignment?

Red__Zed 05-30-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fern to the Z (Post 1142127)
what is this about "rear camber arms with toe bolts" i thought that with swift springs one didn't need any additional parts other than an alignment?

Like I said, strictly speaking you don't need it. I am running mine without them, and have no camber wear after 3k ish miles.

Some people just want to get them back into the factory spec.

czheng51 05-31-2011 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 779305)
KamiSpeed.

is the springs from this site legit? cuz i dont wana buy some fake ones..

Ron 05-31-2011 11:46 PM

That's 2 in a row brother, search. Kami is a vendor here and they are mentioned all over this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/kami-speed/31...-too-late.html

czheng51 05-31-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1144762)
That's 2 in a row brother, search. Kami is a vendor here and they are mentioned all over this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/kami-speed/31...-too-late.html

yeah i saw the post about the website but i just want to make sure its a authorized vendor so my springs are guaranteed to be legit and not fake

Ron 05-31-2011 11:51 PM

... They are

czheng51 05-31-2011 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1144777)
... They are

ok thanks bro :D

tjlazer 06-01-2011 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtK (Post 1141582)
I just ordered my Swift springs, waiting impatiently for them to come in now.:excited:
It appears that there is quite a diverse opinion on whether or not to add a camber and toe kit for the front and rear of the Z once the swift springs are installed. I read through the majority, probably half of, the 44 pages and quite a few of you say no camber or toe is necessary to make proper adjustments the other half say yes. So my question is if I am putting on 20" wheels, and I'm sure many of you have already learned trial an error, should i put camber and toe adjustments on, and which brand is recommended. My Z is not a daily driver but when I do drive it I want to be able to drive without worrying about screwing up a $500 tire, or when I bring it to the track not have the car perform properly.
Not sure what to do?????

The deal is all 370Z's are not the same and some tolerate a drop better than others. You will just have to install, then get an alignment and see where you are at.

I was one of the lucky ones. No camber kits at all. -1.4 front and -1.9 rears. :ughdance:

KamiSpeed 06-01-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1144813)
The deal is all 370Z's are not the same and some tolerate a drop better than others. You will just have to install, then get an alignment and see where you are at.

I was one of the lucky ones. No camber kits at all. -1.4 front and -1.9 rears. :ughdance:

ditto

but from all the sets I've sold (50+ springs) I've had majority not need the camber kit so chances are you won't either

Alchemy 06-01-2011 11:58 AM

When is this shipment of springs gettin in KAMISPEED??? Thought eta was end of May???

KamiSpeed 06-01-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1145468)
When is this shipment of springs gettin in KAMISPEED??? Thought eta was end of May???

Swift said their shipment has been delayed by a week or two... nothing I can do, I'm actually in the process of updating all our customers on the delay

Alchemy 06-01-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamiSpeed (Post 1145509)
Swift said their shipment has been delayed by a week or two... nothing I can do, I'm actually in the process of updating all our customers on the delay

Lol, yeah just got the call. Not good news, been waiting on these awhile but what ya gonna do.

KamiSpeed 06-01-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1145533)
Lol, yeah just got the call. Not good news, been waiting on these awhile but what ya gonna do.

yea there's not much we can do... this is a problem from the supplier :mad:

stells370 06-01-2011 02:39 PM

hey guys im going with swifts in the near future and was wondering what spacers you guys would recommend. im on stock sport 19s with 275/30s up front and 305/30s in the rear thanks in andvance

wheee! 06-01-2011 03:57 PM

15's and 20's.....

tjlazer 06-01-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stells370 (Post 1145863)
hey guys im going with swifts in the near future and was wondering what spacers you guys would recommend. im on stock sport 19s with 275/30s up front and 305/30s in the rear thanks in andvance

If you want to go the easy route and do it yourself, get 20mm front and back, then get the type 2 that you bolt on without removing the studs. That way you can easily remove them yourself if you get new wheels later on! You need 20mm up front as the front wheels will not fit with 15mm unless you install longer studs...

camposturtle 06-02-2011 07:45 AM

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Here is a pic of my car with the Swift Springs install.

Red__Zed 06-02-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camposturtle (Post 1147048)
Here is a pic of my car with the Swift Springs install.

great stance, and great shot!

stells370 06-02-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1146014)
15's and 20's.....

dont think i will rub up front with the 275's ? id love to do the 15/20 combo just dont want any rubbing

AlphaSnacks 06-02-2011 03:58 PM

Someone sell me your Swifts. I can't wait for my order anymore. Been over a month and I'm tired of driving the car with OEM springs.

PM me if you're selling. I'm totally serious.

Red__Zed 06-02-2011 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K. (Post 1148056)
Someone sell me your Swifts. I can't wait for my order anymore. Been over a month and I'm tired of driving the car with OEM springs.

PM me if you're selling. I'm totally serious.

$400 shipped :p

czheng51 06-03-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFZ (Post 947331)
I spoke to Swift about the noises and they sounded really confident that the OEM spring jacket was not on. I had no clue what they were talking about but they sent me a picture and apparently yours doesnt have it on. That will directly affect the squish noise. They assured me that it was tested on the Nismo and the springs will not cause any problems as long as installed correctly.
The reason why your vehicle is making noises is because the OEM spring jacket is not on the spring.

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/a...Z/P1020429.jpg


So this is exactly how i should install the rubber piece on the springs?

christian370z 06-04-2011 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czheng51 (Post 1150104)
So this is exactly how i should install the rubber piece on the springs?

Yes, that is how the spring should look before you install it.

ZoomtoZ 06-06-2011 04:14 PM

Had my Swifts installed and aligned the same day (didn't plan on alignment at the same time but I gave in).

Here are my results after alignment


Front
L/R
-1.4/-1.3
Camber

5.7/5.6
Caster

.08/.09
Toe

Rear
L/R
-2.6/-2.2
Camber

.12/.12
Toe

I guess i will have to get Rear camber arms later on but i don't think the rears are too bad. I'm looking to get in spec and not looking for any other advantages. If L/R rears were closer maybe i would just left them alone...

What do you all think? Should i give it more miles and then recheck alignment?

FYI the rear camber was -3/-2.9 before adjusting.


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