Alright thanks I'll give that a shot first.

What brand spacers is everyone using? If i do 20mm all around can I get the regular bolt on ones or do I need spacers with the extended studs built onto them?

Look at H&R, Powertrix, or Z1. Some will argue that the stud replacement type are safer, which is likely true as it has less failure points. With that said I was running Powertrix 20mm bolt on type with no issues for nearly a year before I got new wheels. On a street setup I think you will be fine either way long as you go with good quality spacers.

Ok will most likely go with bolt on then since car only sees street.

I have the Swifts with 20mm front and back, during hard right turns at high speeds, the left front will rub a little, not a big deal, if you are not pushing the car hard or going over bumps while turning hard lefts, you won't know. I have the stock Bridgestones w/Sports Pckg 19inch wheels

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20F/25R on Swifts that have not settled - occasional rub on big dips going highway speeds (~70 mph). Houston doesn't have the best of roads though...

Ugh...and I forgot to swap the rubber sleeves from the oem springs to the swifts. They should have it preinstalled on the swifts.

I got Z1 bolt on spacers during black Friday and I havent had any rubbing issues, however I have base wheels.

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Also to weigh in on the bolt on vs extended stud thing, I believe extended studs are safer, but bolt on are more than safe enough. At least for the Z1 ones, theyre built really well. That being said, I have almost brand new H&R 20mm extended stud spacers for sale (4 of them total) that I haven't taken the time to put on the for sale thread yet. $100/set (2).

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I went with corners spacers since they had a deal when purchasing the swift springs. I made sure to use a dab of loctite and retorqued after driving around for a day.

I just got my swift springs installed today and with me sitting in the car FL was -1.5 FR was -1.7 camber. The rears were -1.5 on both sides with camber arms, my question is how long realistically speaking can I expect my tires to last, and what are the stock spec's as far as camber is concerned for a stock car?

Did you do toe bolts too? You will need them if you want the tires to last a month...


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toe kills, brah.

I don't think they're safer. Not unless you can guaranty the strength of the stud extending. Seems scary to have that long of a stud holding your life on the line. Bolt on just seems safer. I've never had a wheel fall off so neither will the spacer or wheel and spacer.

Yes I did the SPC camber arms I believe did come with the toe bolts, so yes.

Just as long as your alignment shows no toe then you should expect good tread life with those camber numbers. Again this depends on your road conditions and driving style too. No worse than stock with those settings.


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