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Hey i got my car aligned a few months ago, relatively weak toe and caster with 5* negative camber. I am now two sets of front tires down with wear

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Old 06-20-2020, 01:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i got my car aligned a few months ago, relatively weak toe and caster with 5* negative camber. I am now two sets of front tires down with wear on the inside side wall, which ive never seen on "high" camber alignements. I dot quite a lot of drift, i was wondering if front tire wear like this is common due to a weird geometry thing our cars could have under load?

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If you are running camber at -5. YES you will have tire wear on the inside. The outside edge isn't even on the ground. If your toe is off. It will wear even faster. Most don't go past -3 on camber. Do you have adjustable upper control arms?
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lol -5 degrees camber and you're complaining about tire wear? with that shět
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not only that, but he's driving the car at drift events

so

high camber + hard driving . . . why surprise at uneven and high wear?
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Damn, -5° camber. I run only -3° on my Z06 when running soft compound slicks. Caster is, however, set at +8°. Is there a reason why initial camber was that low? I'd rather run a higher number (probably around -2°) for camber and much higher positive caster (over +7°).
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for wheel fitment

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lol -5 degrees camber and you're complaining about tire wear? with that shět
I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in
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I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in
Actually - with that much camber, I am blown-away that you even get 1000 miles out of your tyres

The toe setting also looks dodgy. 10 "what" in ..... 10 degrees, 0.10 inch, 10mm ........... is that total toe-in or each side.
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Actually - with that much camber, I am blown-away that you even get 1000 miles out of your tyres

The toe setting also looks dodgy. 10 "what" in ..... 10 degrees, 0.10 inch, 10mm ........... is that total toe-in or each side.
10* toe each side
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Are you saying 10 DEGREES?

I think we found the problem
Look in the drivers seat
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I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in
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Are you saying 10 DEGREES?

I think we found the problem
Look in the drivers seat
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I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in
With your spec's. 1000 miles IS normal.
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dont get mad at us

you want us to give you a diagnosis that DOESN'T acknowledge the obvious problem?

go to a proper alignment shop that deals with race cars, including drift cars, and see if they spot anything beyond the glaring issues of your camber and insane toe specs

you also didn't give us your tire compound, which is also a factor

tire wear is always gonna come down to:
- camber
- toe
- compound
- driver

everything you gave us is that your camber is high, your toe is NUTS, and your driving is hard.

wtf u expect us to say? we aren't looking under your car, we aren't gonna point out a magical gremlin thats eating your tires at night
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