Front camber alignment?

Guyfromthere

Hello,

I just did an alignment on my wheels and figured that it's not possible to adjust front camber on stock car. Is it correct? I also attach photo with my allignment results so someone who has more knowledge about this can comment (It's in Lithuanian, I'll put translations below).

Left side is before, Right side is after.

K. - Left
D. - Right
1 - Total toe
2 - Camber
3 - Caster

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gomer_110

There is no camber adjustment on the front with the factory control arms. If you wanted to be able to adjust front camber you will need to get aftermarket upper control arms.

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Guyfromthere

Ah thanks! Gonna get the Z1 ones I guess.

ecoplunge

Your toe is a little straighter than OEM nominal specs, front and rear, but not bad.

Stock alignment specs?

Should feel pretty quick to turn as is. A little more positive toe would make it more straight line stable without too much affect on tire wear. But if you like it I don't think you need to change it.

Camber and caster are good unless you want to track the car.

Guyfromthere

Ye, the car feels better after alignment . But I wanna go fully to stock spec since I plan to visit the track once - twice a month when it gets warmer

ecoplunge

I would think your toe would be great for track. Don't really need more camber in the rear in my opinion but this may come down to preference. Definitely could use more negative camber and positive caster up front but honestly if you did nothing this would be a good place to start for track sessions. I'd at least track it once before you adjust it or put on camber/caster front arms to know what it feels like before and after on track.

Senna-F1

I was very disappointed to see that my Z1 arms were not adjustable once installed on the car. I set them up using the stock arms as a guide. But that's where they stayed too. Luckily the numbers came out ok, but if I want to change the alignment, it's really not possible without removing them, and with swift springs that also means removing the wheels, strut tower bar, and struts themselves. There is no room to remove the 2 bolts holding the arms to the chassis because spring coils are compressed. What am I missing? I find this to be an almost pointless purchase at this point. Especially since I set them up to be like stock, so my numbers are probably what they would be on stock arms. Except for the caster.

MarksZ34

There should be no reason to undo the inner bolts on the Z1 arms since that is the castor adjustment which, if adjusted properly should give you more than stock which is desired for better handling and turn in vs stock. The camber adjustment is easily made by unbolting the center heim joint which is simple for either you or the alignment guy. If you are tracking the car all of the time than the SPLs are the best for max adjustability but this was not for me. Once the settings are made on the Z1s, they will never 'slip' as comparable cheaper designs do! In addition, mine is a street car so SPL arms and track settings (which wear tires much too fast) were too much for my wallet!

Senna-F1

Adjusted properly? As in off the car? It's more like castor setup, as in "set it, and forget it". And hope you got it right. You're speaking as if there is one way to properly set it, in which case it should come as a static piece. The impression with the design is that it's "adjustable"



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OptionZero

This is why i always say get SPL FUCAs and be done. But oh well

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k67p67

The Voodoo13 FUCAs appear to be a great alternative and about $100 cheaper than SPL.

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littlejuanito

At a $100 difference, might as well buy the SPL arms, which have proven to be the best option. Voodoo's are yet to prove themselves.

Besides, see it as an investment, since the SPL will sell in a heart beat and will retain their value if you choose to part.

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OptionZero

SPLs:
- best locking mechanism for your alignment guy
- track proven durability across multiple platforms
- high quality balljoints that are self-cleaning
- camber AND caster adjustment

There's a reason why they don't pop up much in the FS section and are scooped up quickly when they do.

Sorta like Fast Intentions Exhausts. They easily sell in a day or two and retain a healthy chunk of their value.

Buy SPL. Never worry again. Plus, after you get the FUCAs, you can run pretty much any size wheel/tire in front. any. size.

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k67p67

I recently purchased a set of the Voodoo13 FUCAs. I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to "unproven" brands but I did as much research as I could before purchasing and I am definitely not disappointed. The build quality is excellent. They offer independent camber and caster adjustment. Design and adjustment are very similar to the SPLs. The self-cleaning aspect of the SPLs sounds cool but time will tell how necessary that feature really is.

I've always been a fan of SPL products but I think this Voodoo13 stuff is well worth the consideration.

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YYZ

The SPC kit was just the ticket for me. I got more caster and exactly the camber I was looking for. Not sure why SPC isn't very popular. SPC UCAs seem to be very well built. Easy to replace the ball joint when it wears out along with OEM style bushings. Super easy to adjust if needed.