What camber are you running up front? I have mine set at -1.2.

I'm running quite a bit because of track setup -2.6 up front and -2.0 rear!

I just adjusted my dampers and went up six clicks rear (total 14 I believe) and three up front to 18. I'd never run the rears that high and it was definitely firmer but it didn't seem to be blowing through the entire damper stroke and thus may be an improvement. Definitely feel it in the kidneys more but it's not a hard, harsh hit. On normal roads, it's really tight and just well damped/controlled. These things just respond so much more quickly than your average damper and the rear seems more controlled powering out of corners. Things you learn by just trying them out.

One note, your damper settings will also depend on what tires you run. Bridgestones typically have a very hard sidewall and when I switched over to Michelin PSS, I was able to increase my damping a few clicks and not degrade ride quality. I'm not skipping over bumps mid-corner at all.

I have to believe these are THE choice for a quality setup below $4K. If you spec out the AST's the same as the Aragostas, they're in the mid-4K range and are essentially the same damper with their own shim combination.

Now you are seeing what I saw. It's not a bad ride, just firmer. The shock has more control over the compression and rebound. I am adjusting by the feedback the car is giving me in different situations. Glad you see the same results I have. Makes sense.

Here are 2 things that concern me that I think I have talked about before.

1.) The squat in the rear on take off's. Some is needed but you don't want too much or the negative camber will increase causing less contact patch with the road.

2.) When I drive into a sharp corner the front end will dive a little.

Some things to think about.

I am getting close on my damper settings. One thing I have not tested is at high speed. The Nismo setup was very stable. This may also cause an increase in damper settings. This is no doubt a learning process. I hope other folks can learn from it also.

Yes an increase on both will be needed. I hav have added aero to the front and back all which impacts the need for stiffer springs and increased dampening.

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yeah

i think of the tiers of coilovers like this

$1000/less = don't even bother
$2000 = Powertrix because Charles is so good at his job
$3000 = Aragosta type-S
$4000/more = might as well go all out and get something with a cup kit and triple adjustable

Realize the Aragostas can be had for far less than $3K and what Bulletproof sells them for. I paid about $2300 to my door (shipping, import tax, everything) for the Type S with rubber uppers. Solid pillows are, if I remember correctly, about $150 more.

Mine are custom. They have the damper adjustments on the side for the rear. No hole cutting for my car. They actually cost quite a bit more than 3k.

One on the main reasons I went with Fortune Auto other than a quality product is because they can be upgraded. You can buy a module so you can change your dampening electronically. :tup:

Well crapola. Wavetrac's are on national backorder. 2 month wait. I have ordered the OS Giken instead.

Wow...but OS Giken ftw! What's the wait time for it and who did you order it from!

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2 days. Ordered it from Z1mortorsports. They are building it and I will drive up to have it installed. 500 more than the Wavetrac.
So I went with my 2nd choice. Quaiffe was not on the table.

Yup, those were my choices in the same order as well. Can't wait to hear how you like it. When you gonna order the tt kit? :p

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In about 4 months.

You will be very happy with the OSG. Good choice

I hope so.

I forgot to mention since it was a warm day I was able to put it in an accelerating curve. The car was stuck like glue and better than stock with the foot to the floor.

F@cking BALLERS! :shakes head:












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Corner balancing scheduled for Wednesday the 26th.

Would love to hear from someone who's had all three fortune/powertrix/arrogosta to get a real complete feedback. The powertrix have been good but always curious what's out there.

Maybe get a swap deal going and see what we all think?

I want to know what a set of Motons or Penske's feel like.

Hate to break it to you but that's not custom. That's how they come regardless. I have the same side adjustment knob and there's no cutting involved. Bulletproof just tacks on a grand for taking your phone call. If they told you that to justify the price, they deserve a hard kick to the sack. I'm actually out in La La land currently but leaving for Asia tomorrow morning otherwise I'd swing by there and do it personally for you. :nut swinger:

Here's a pic of my rear shock.
https://s20.postimg.org/ougtxk14d/IPL_mod0054.jpg

I've only compared the Aragostas to the Tein Flex Z's but the other car also had Hotchkins bars so not a fair or accurate comparison.

Hmm, good thing I bought them slightly used and didn't have to pay that much for them.

Good to hear. I might have had you confused with another forum member who ordered a set through Bulletproof and paid top $$$ for them.

Corner balancing has been completed. I was off 1/4in. on one corner with ride height. Man does my car feel so much better. The corner weights were off. Whoever said you don't need to corner balance your car after coilovers is crazy. He was hooking the rear sway bar endlink up and it could change the cross weights by a whole percent. That was a holey crap how sensitive the suspension is moment. It took a few minutes to just hook the adjustable endlinks up perfectly without changing it. Crazy.

So...................HOW'S THE RIDE?


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It is firm but not bone jarring like the stock Nismo suspension. I am enjoying the crap out of it. The car is so much better after the corner balancing. I could tell the difference immediately on the way home. I am very pleased.

Since you are staying in Fontana village are you going to meet up at 6:30am at the store for the morning drive and breakfast at the deal's gap store? Don't make me hook a tow strap to your legs to snatch you out of bed in the morning.

Depends if the wife can get me out of bed. :rofl2:

I just did a 500 mile trip and the suspension was awesome. No more beat the crap out of you stock Nismo suspension. The car was on rails. We'll see how she does on the Dragon.

I have added another click to the front for 16 clicks and one more to the rear for 15 clicks. The car has loosened up some in the heat. We shall see how this does.

Don't know how temperature sensitive your shock fluid is in the coil-overs. It might be stiff in the morning and soften as the temperature raises. My customed valved Bilstein 7100's on my Power Wagon are like that.

Yeap, that is what it feels like hence one click stiffer.

My setup did very well on the Dragon this last week. Extremely happy with it.

I never could get a clean run on the Dragon this. Between the police, a motorhome, slow locals, tourists. After 3 tries, I gave up. :( Did have fun on Friday's Highland Cruise. :driving: :tup:

I told ya to be a the Fontana Store in the morning at 7:00am. We got some clean runs in. A couple of folks in the way but not many at all. We basically had the road to ourselves for the most part.

I was eating breakfast at that time. :rolleyes:

You should have stuck around for Saturday dinner. Guess who won the MA Motorsports diff cooler?

You lucky rascal. I headed home at 11:00am. I needed today to work/rest up for work tomorrow. Oh what fun I am going to have.