Stillen Parts Group Buy - Happy times for all!

joe370z · 07-27-2009, 02:33 AM

Probably a good idea to run in a bit before the exhaust so we can feel the difference and work out where we want power and pick a product to suit. I'm really confused with these cold air intakes they just look like a lot of trouble for not much gain. Even back in my HSV days these the CAI's were always questionable so I'm thinking maybe just going to K&N mats and possibly just a smooth flow induction pipe might just be the way to go as it will be a heck of a lot cheaper and probably just as effective. Anyway AH370 I will wait for you but I'm going to speak to a friend of mine that brings in a lot of SUV parts in from the US he may be able to help with getting the kits here.

MrBMW · 07-27-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellz

Thanks for clearing that up MrBMW.
In the end I will go with whichever way the group buy goes. Can't wait to start modding.

No probs Ellz. Personally I leaning towards the FI Exhaust setup, then add some Stillen G3 intakes. I would still go with this GB, for the Intakes though.

If I remember rightly your in Brissie too aren't you Ellz. I can check with FI, with what shipping will be to here if you decide you want their exhaust. Also same goes for others that might want the FI setup, I have no probs doing something from up here. Again thanks to evse82 in starting the effort with Stillen though.

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Originally Posted by joe370z

Probably a good idea to run in a bit before the exhaust so we can feel the difference and work out where we want power and pick a product to suit. I'm really confused with these cold air intakes they just look like a lot of trouble for not much gain. Even back in my HSV days these the CAI's were always questionable so I'm thinking maybe just going to K&N mats and possibly just a smooth flow induction pipe might just be the way to go as it will be a heck of a lot cheaper and probably just as effective. Anyway AH370 I will wait for you but I'm going to speak to a friend of mine that brings in a lot of SUV parts in from the US he may be able to help with getting the kits here.

I think by the time they get made and delivered to us in Aus, most of us will well and truly have had the cars run in. As for the Intakes, it looks like the Short ram styles aren't really netting any REAL advantage.

With the Stillen G3 longtube, there does appear to be some good evidence that there is a nice bump in HP, around 10-15atw if I remember rightly. Then combined with some Test Pipes (bugger the High Flow Cats LOL) and a good straight exhaust, there will be noticeable differences.

joe370z · 07-27-2009, 04:42 AM

Does anyone know how much the test pipes add to the noise of the exhaust? I want a nice sound but would think that the test pipes might add too much noise

MrBMW · 07-27-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by joe370z

Does anyone know how much the test pipes add to the noise of the exhaust? I want a nice sound but would think that the test pipes might add too much noise

I need to watch the Dyno video again, but if i remember correctly one of the Dyno runs is with the RTP on the car. I have asked for a rough DB level of the RTP's with CBE 18"Res and CF muffler. This is what i'm more concerned about, is the DB level attracting the unwanted attention if you know what I mean.

Ellz · 07-27-2009, 07:45 PM

Yes i wouldnt got just plain test pipes. It's just asking for trouble. FI have the resinated test pipes so im looking into them.

MrBMW i am also learning towards the FI setup. I am in Brissy yes and i have met a 370 dude on the Gold Coast who is also interested. Group buy of 3 from FI to Brisbane maybe?
Stillen Intake hands down, i'd put the money down now if it helped :P

evse82 · 07-28-2009, 01:16 AM

Hey sorry for late response, been in a new position at work and been really busy

I had a look at the FI exhaust but was worried that it may be a bit to noisy inside, it does look awesome from behind though

I just don't want my car to drone at all, and from what i heard about the Stillen, they didn't have any drone at all so thats why I initially chose that one. I'm happy to go either way really, just as long as the sound is good, with no raspiness or drone lol

What's everyone leaning towards? Also how much does the FI cost in comparison to the Stillen? (sorry haven't checked out the price yet)

MrBMW · 07-28-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by evse82

Hey sorry for late response, been in a new position at work and been really busy

I had a look at the FI exhaust but was worried that it may be a bit to noisy inside, it does look awesome from behind though

I just don't want my car to drone at all, and from what i heard about the Stillen, they didn't have any drone at all so thats why I initially chose that one. I'm happy to go either way really, just as long as the sound is good, with no raspiness or drone lol

What's everyone leaning towards? Also how much does the FI cost in comparison to the Stillen? (sorry haven't checked out the price yet)

Hey there evse82, no need for the sorry at all mate. We all have to work at some stage. Hopefully your (will) enjoying your new job.

The prices and videos of the FI Setups are HERE or

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc

Stock cat back weight: 57LBS.
F.I. TDX cat back weight: 47LBS.
F.I. TDX cat back W/Carbon Fiber mufflers Weight: 41LBS.

This exhaust system is designed for maximum performance while keeping the stock note of the vehicle intact. Only enhancing it by making it deeper, smoother and louder.

The breakdown
Tubing: 2.5" T-304 stainless steel
Mufflers: 6" x 14" round perforated core T-304 stainless steel
Resonators: 4" x 12" / 4" x 18" round perforated core T-304 stainless steel
Tips: 4.5" round w/3" perforated core T-304 stainless steel

All of our resonators, mufflers and tips are straight through perforated core eliminating any baffles or restrictions. This entire exhaust system was designed to have minimal bends ensuring the greatest power and torque gains possible!

Speaking of gains, we netted an average of over 20 RWH over the stock cat back. Keep reading, you will see for yourself.

Turnaround time: First come first serve basis. As of July 15th 2009 we are backed up 3.5 weeks. However, this system is made here in house by the fabricators that designed it. We make all our exhaust systems in house. Always have and always will. Some of our competitors will have you wait 3-6 months to receive your exhaust and wait to put in their order until they have 25+. This is what happens when you are waiting on another source to build your products. We would rather do a sale instead of a group buy. This way you can jump on at your leisure and not be dependent on others to reach a number! No way no how, not here!

The Pricing

F.I. TDX Cat Back
Straight X Pipe: $1,100.00 (Loudest option)
12" Resonators: $1,230.00
18" Resonators: $1,260.00 (Recommended if stock cats are off of the car)
Carbon Fiber muffler option: + $175.00

High Flow Cats
$480.00 W/ Purchase of cat back
$500.00 Separately

Resonated Test Pipes
$355.00 W/ Purchase of cat back
$375.00 Separately

Hopefully i'm allowed to do that. Personally i was going the Stillens all the way through, Intake/CBE etc.. It wasnt until i noticed the thread in the Exhaust section that i changed my mind.

I'm going for the Resonated Test Pipes/CBE with 18" Resonator and CF Muffler. I streamed the videos through my PS3 (sounds better than my laptop LOL) and was extremely happy with the results. I've PM'd/Emailed FI for shipping prices to Aus as well. If people want to go that way, maybe we can do that.

Sry for the Hijack as i personally appreciate the effort you have put in so far for the Stillen stuff.

AH370Z · 07-28-2009, 02:00 AM

I will have what ever exhaust does not have drone or Raspiness.
So unless I can see proof that the FI does not have any, then Stillen for me

I dont recieve my 370 till Oct and Im already looking at mods

Quote:

Originally Posted by evse82

Hey sorry for late response, been in a new position at work and been really busy

I had a look at the FI exhaust but was worried that it may be a bit to noisy inside, it does look awesome from behind though

I just don't want my car to drone at all, and from what i heard about the Stillen, they didn't have any drone at all so thats why I initially chose that one. I'm happy to go either way really, just as long as the sound is good, with no raspiness or drone lol

What's everyone leaning towards? Also how much does the FI cost in comparison to the Stillen? (sorry haven't checked out the price yet)

MrBMW · 07-28-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AH370Z

I will have what ever exhaust does not have drone or Raspiness.
So unless I can see proof that the FI does not have any, then Stillen for me

I dont recieve my 370 till Oct and Im already looking at mods

In the video that's in the FI threads of the drive around, the only real "Rasp" is on the standstill at the very beginning, on the Rev down. The drive around the roads seems very reasonable IMHO.

Although everyone has their own taste. That's what is great about the wide selection of products there is. The only downside is that it is all in the US or Japan at the moment.

You still have a fair amount of time till you get your car anyway. It will take a while no matter which product anyone decides on, due to shipping.

evse82 · 07-28-2009, 06:37 AM

New jobs ok just a lot more work lol... ah wells.

Ok well I like the look of this one, but I'm just a little worried about the loudness. There is a new video of it on youtube, sounds great from outside but i'm just not sure whether it'll be attracting too much attention from police. It just seems a little loud at times.

I guess maybe we wait and see the shipping cost then decide.

GTRFAN you still here? lol he was keen on the stillen not sure if he's seen this one yet.

GTRFAN · 07-28-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by evse82

GTRFAN you still here? lol

LOL

Yep still here, just busy driving and running it in. Up to 700km now!

My main aim is for a nice deep note while fanging but without the drone while cruising.

The HFC's are optional for me based on if it's legal in Oz. Berk seem to give a good result with a deeper note which would be sweet.

Stillen CAI for sure.

Is everyone leaning towards the FI now over the Stillen CBE?

So whats the summary?

FI - Slightly better sound, more power but look a little bling?
Stillen - Nice note, not as much power?
What about cost?

evse82 · 07-28-2009, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRFAN

LOL

Yep still here, just busy driving and running it in. Up to 700km now!

My main aim is for a nice deep note while fanging but without the drone while cruising.

The HFC's are optional for me based on if it's legal in Oz. Berk seem to give a good result with a deeper note which would be sweet.

Stillen CAI for sure.

Is everyone leaning towards the FI now over the Stillen CBE?

So whats the summary?

FI - Slightly better sound, more power but look a little bling?
Stillen - Nice note, not as much power?
What about cost?

I wish i had my car

I'd be cruising around with you..... sigh.... ah wells.. Hopefully early August.

The prices are just a few posts up, they seem very similar to stillen. I don't think the FI cats will be legal here cos they are listed as off road use only on their website, where as berks ones are 49 state road legal... So I'm leaning towards the berk ones.

Now on the exhaust, providing which way most people go, I'll most likely follow. But I mean, if you wanna go Stillen, I'll go stillen, it was my first choice and It's not too loud when you don't want it to be. Power is only a couple of HP so won't be noticable i guess.

Also I'm 100% ready to buy this stuff so whenever you guys are ready Im there...

GTRFAN · 07-28-2009, 06:18 PM

Ev, Are we looking at a separate group buys for each state? If so, lets organise a Melbourne meet and get this rolling. It may be a lot easier to talk about what we want in person.

Who feels like Nando's?

MrBMW · 07-28-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by evse82

I wish I had my car

I'd be cruising around with you..... sigh.... ah wells.. Hopefully early August.

The prices are just a few posts up, they seem very similar to stillen. I don't think the FI cats will be legal here cos they are listed as off road use only on their website, where as berks ones are 49 state road legal... So I'm leaning towards the berk ones.

Now on the exhaust, providing which way most people go, I'll most likely follow. But I mean, if you wanna go Stillen, I'll go stillen, it was my first choice and It's not too loud when you don't want it to be. Power is only a couple of HP so won't be noticable I guess.

Also I'm 100% ready to buy this stuff so whenever you guys are ready Im there...

I have received a PM from F.I. Inc. Tony advised we/I will get shipping costs in the next 24hrs. The only reason for the slight delay, is that he is getting the current lot for US orders boxed up. Then he will be able to get weights and shipping costs to me.

Once I have that I will let all you guys know about it. Price wise I think it works out a little cheaper than the Stillen exhausts. The other good thing is the options of no Resonator or 12" Res or 18" Res which will help with volume (BTW personally there is always there is a time and place

).

As for legalities I believe it's a bit different State to State. I am pretty sure though changing the Cat will "Technically" be illegal. I'll have a look through DOTARS and see what it says in there. The good thing for QLD at least is we only need to get a Pink slip when you go to sell the car, so as long as you dont do anything stupid in the car your right. Unless you get an engineers Cert' too be 100% safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRFAN

Ev, Are we looking at a separate group buys for each state? If so, lets organise a Melbourne meet and get this rolling. It may be a lot easier to talk about what we want in person.

Who feels like Nando's?

Now Nando's is a good idea LOL. I'm easy with which ever way everyone decides to go. I am going for the FI setup and Stillen G3 Intake (PM sent to ev' and GTR on this). If people want to go separate for each state, I reckon thats fine. We have 3 in QLD already.

evse82 · 07-28-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRFAN

Ev, Are we looking at a separate group buys for each state? If so, lets organise a Melbourne meet and get this rolling. It may be a lot easier to talk about what we want in person.

Who feels like Nando's?

Not sure if we wanna split it up by state, we can all go group buy if we decide to then we can just organise shipping to melb for ours if need be.

lol Nandos is good haha, When do you wanna meet up?

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07-27-2009, 02:33 AM	#31 (permalink)
joe370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 38 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 15	Probably a good idea to run in a bit before the exhaust so we can feel the difference and work out where we want power and pick a product to suit. I'm really confused with these cold air intakes they just look like a lot of trouble for not much gain. Even back in my HSV days these the CAI's were always questionable so I'm thinking maybe just going to K&N mats and possibly just a smooth flow induction pipe might just be the way to go as it will be a heck of a lot cheaper and probably just as effective. Anyway AH370 I will wait for you but I'm going to speak to a friend of mine that brings in a lot of SUV parts in from the US he may be able to help with getting the kits here.

07-27-2009, 04:42 AM	#33 (permalink)
joe370z Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 38 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 15	Does anyone know how much the test pipes add to the noise of the exhaust? I want a nice sound but would think that the test pipes might add too much noise

07-27-2009, 07:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
Ellz Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 103 Drives: 370z 6MT Black Rep Power: 16	Yes i wouldnt got just plain test pipes. It's just asking for trouble. FI have the resinated test pipes so im looking into them. MrBMW i am also learning towards the FI setup. I am in Brissy yes and i have met a 370 dude on the Gold Coast who is also interested. Group buy of 3 from FI to Brisbane maybe? Stillen Intake hands down, i'd put the money down now if it helped :P

07-28-2009, 01:16 AM	#36 (permalink)
evse82 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 609 Drives: Black 370z MT Rep Power: 17	Hey sorry for late response, been in a new position at work and been really busy I had a look at the FI exhaust but was worried that it may be a bit to noisy inside, it does look awesome from behind though I just don't want my car to drone at all, and from what i heard about the Stillen, they didn't have any drone at all so thats why I initially chose that one. I'm happy to go either way really, just as long as the sound is good, with no raspiness or drone lol What's everyone leaning towards? Also how much does the FI cost in comparison to the Stillen? (sorry haven't checked out the price yet)

07-28-2009, 06:37 AM	#40 (permalink)
evse82 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 609 Drives: Black 370z MT Rep Power: 17	New jobs ok just a lot more work lol... ah wells. Ok well I like the look of this one, but I'm just a little worried about the loudness. There is a new video of it on youtube, sounds great from outside but i'm just not sure whether it'll be attracting too much attention from police. It just seems a little loud at times. I guess maybe we wait and see the shipping cost then decide. GTRFAN you still here? lol he was keen on the stillen not sure if he's seen this one yet.

07-28-2009, 06:18 PM	#43 (permalink)
GTRFAN Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 586 Drives: 370z Titanium 6MT Rep Power: 17	Ev, Are we looking at a separate group buys for each state? If so, lets organise a Melbourne meet and get this rolling. It may be a lot easier to talk about what we want in person. Who feels like Nando's?