Subwoofer locations without losing the spare tire

huff442 · 08-29-2009, 09:02 PM

I agree on the SQ stopping at a 12. You just lose all control. The best sounding system i've had was a VERY simple 6.5 mid and tweet comp set with two RF 8's. The key? 2000w. Endless headroom. The 8's were nice and tight. Of course, it was a king-cab Tacoma, so you didn't have to fill a lot of space.

bigaudiofanat · 08-29-2009, 09:09 PM

Yes, you should honestly give a Image Dynamics Q sub a try I think you will be pleased.

bigaudiofanat · 08-29-2009, 11:07 PM

That will still lose his spare tire which he wants to keep. Still looks good.

2fast4thelaw · 08-29-2009, 11:25 PM

Your right, but this reply was more for answering "huff442"'s question about the 13TW5 and what it can do.

I disagree about the statement SQ stops at 12 inches. My experience has been that 13.5" subs sound every bit as good as 12's if not better.

Anything larger is a compromise. I havent heard very many 15" subs that sounded tight. I can think of only one instance. I listend to a Rockford Fosgate Demo vehicle with (4) 15" subs and it was sonic perfection but they must had over 50K in the vehicle.

I know a lot of people think JL Audio is overpriced and overrated but they have more engineering, innovation, and patents than anyone else out there. I have never owned a JL audio subwoofer that I wasnt impressed with and I have had many!! They make a damn good subs and amps. yes they are expensive but I know I will be happy with the equipment which is more than I can say for some others I have tried.

bigaudiofanat · 08-30-2009, 10:03 AM

Well I have to disagree with your disagreement. Anything over a 12 inch sub becomes sloppy and it not able to reproduce tight acurate bass such as a 8 a 10 or 12.

2fast4thelaw · 08-30-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Well I have to disagree with your disagreement. Anything over a 12 inch sub becomes sloppy and it not able to reproduce tight acurate bass such as a 8 a 10 or 12.

Without further argument on that subject, I have said this before and I will say it again. Sound quality is very subjective.

Here is a perfect example, some people swear by 10" subs, personally I have never been happy with a 10" sub and always find myself upgrading to a 12 and recently I have been playing with 13's and I think they are the shiznick!

This is off topic big time, but I will say it anyway to reinforce my point.

I have a home theater sub with an 18" driver in it and it hits tighter than any 8, 10, or 12 I have ever heard. In fact its the Home Theater sub that all others are measured by, at least at the time I bought it. Granted it has a 3000watt amp and cost a few grand, but its an example that very large sub drivers can have the SQ that rivals smaller ones.

Be careful when you generalize as there are always exceptions to the rule.

bigaudiofanat · 08-30-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

Without further argument on that subject, I have said this before and I will say it again. Sound quality is very subjective.

Agree to disagree.

2fast4thelaw · 08-30-2009, 12:26 PM

No problem Matt, i am not trying to put down your opinion in anyway. I just dont like it when people generalize. People who generalize are usually ignorant. You are not ignorant and are clearly an intelligent person who knows a lot about this subject.

bigaudiofanat · 08-30-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

No problem Matt, i am not trying to put down your opinion in anyway. I just dont like it when people generalize. People who generalize are usually ignorant. You are not ignorant and are clearly an intelligent person who knows a lot about this subject.

Thank you you seem to know a bit yourself as well.

kannibul · 08-31-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

I just dont like it when people generalize. People who generalize are usually ignorant.

Sorry, but I find a lot of humor in those two statements

ConchZ2 · 10-08-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

Without further argument on that subject, I have said this before and I will say it again. Sound quality is very subjective.

Here is a perfect example, some people swear by 10" subs, personally I have never been happy with a 10" sub and always find myself upgrading to a 12 and recently I have been playing with 13's and I think they are the shiznick!

This is off topic big time, but I will say it anyway to reinforce my point.

I have a home theater sub with an 18" driver in it and it hits tighter than any 8, 10, or 12 I have ever heard. In fact its the Home Theater sub that all others are measured by, at least at the time I bought it. Granted it has a 3000watt amp and cost a few grand, but its an example that very large sub drivers can have the SQ that rivals smaller ones.

Be careful when you generalize as there are always exceptions to the rule.

I’m curious about your home theater sub. I’m currently using two SVS PC Ultra Plus subwoofers and looking to upgrade. Any suggestions?

2fast4thelaw · 10-08-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ConchZ2

I’m curious about your home theater sub. I’m currently using two SVS PC Ultra Plus subwoofers and looking to upgrade. Any suggestions?

You have (2) of those and you want to upgrade??? Those are awesome subs, just one of them will keep up with my Velodyne FSR1800II if not exceed it.

ConchZ2 · 10-08-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

You have (2) of those and you want to upgrade??? Those are awesome subs, just one of them will keep up with my Velodyne FSR1800II if not exceed it.

Thanks…….someday I want subs that will sound like Jaco Pastorius, Flea, Getty Lee, John Paul Jones etc. are playing Live in my house!

antennahead · 10-09-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

You have (2) of those and you want to upgrade??? Those are awesome subs, just one of them will keep up with my Velodyne FSR1800II if not exceed it.

I have one of them and it rocks my large room!

TXSpeedDemon · 08-30-2009, 10:18 AM

Anyone tried the Z Enclosure Upfire boxes?

Nissan 370Z UPFIRE Subwoofer Enclosure

I prefer the look of this one over the rear facing. This is my first car without an enclosed trunk, and I'm not too knowledgeable regarding car audio, so I have no point of reference for how/if an upfire would effect sound quality in a hatch. Previous cars have all been single or dual ported 10 or 12"s.

For the Z I just want to add some nice depth with good tight sound reproduction. Not needing to win any competitions, but would like my Z to sound at least as good as my MazdaSpeed (Kenwood Excelons all around and ported 10" in the trunk) Leaning toward the Upfire with dual 8"s.

08-29-2009, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	Yes, you should honestly give a Image Dynamics Q sub a try I think you will be pleased. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

08-29-2009, 11:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	That will still lose his spare tire which he wants to keep. Still looks good. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

08-30-2009, 10:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	Well I have to disagree with your disagreement. Anything over a 12 inch sub becomes sloppy and it not able to reproduce tight acurate bass such as a 8 a 10 or 12. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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08-29-2009, 09:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
huff442 Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NW Arkansas Age: 55 Posts: 309 Drives: 09 370Z 6mt Tour/Spt Rep Power: 17	I agree on the SQ stopping at a 12. You just lose all control. The best sounding system i've had was a VERY simple 6.5 mid and tweet comp set with two RF 8's. The key? 2000w. Endless headroom. The 8's were nice and tight. Of course, it was a king-cab Tacoma, so you didn't have to fill a lot of space.

08-29-2009, 11:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 51 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 17	Your right, but this reply was more for answering "huff442"'s question about the 13TW5 and what it can do. I disagree about the statement SQ stops at 12 inches. My experience has been that 13.5" subs sound every bit as good as 12's if not better. Anything larger is a compromise. I havent heard very many 15" subs that sounded tight. I can think of only one instance. I listend to a Rockford Fosgate Demo vehicle with (4) 15" subs and it was sonic perfection but they must had over 50K in the vehicle. I know a lot of people think JL Audio is overpriced and overrated but they have more engineering, innovation, and patents than anyone else out there. I have never owned a JL audio subwoofer that I wasnt impressed with and I have had many!! They make a damn good subs and amps. yes they are expensive but I know I will be happy with the equipment which is more than I can say for some others I have tried.

08-30-2009, 12:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 51 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 17	No problem Matt, i am not trying to put down your opinion in anyway. I just dont like it when people generalize. People who generalize are usually ignorant. You are not ignorant and are clearly an intelligent person who knows a lot about this subject.

08-30-2009, 10:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
TXSpeedDemon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 330 Drives: 370Z, MSP, R8, 335 Rep Power: 3372	Anyone tried the Z Enclosure Upfire boxes? Nissan 370Z UPFIRE Subwoofer Enclosure I prefer the look of this one over the rear facing. This is my first car without an enclosed trunk, and I'm not too knowledgeable regarding car audio, so I have no point of reference for how/if an upfire would effect sound quality in a hatch. Previous cars have all been single or dual ported 10 or 12"s. For the Z I just want to add some nice depth with good tight sound reproduction. Not needing to win any competitions, but would like my Z to sound at least as good as my MazdaSpeed (Kenwood Excelons all around and ported 10" in the trunk) Leaning toward the Upfire with dual 8"s.