Planning a stereo system for when my Nismo shows up

Naenyn · 09-16-2012, 01:54 AM

So I have a bit of previous experience with Apline HUs and JL Audio speakers and was looking to plan out a new stereo system for my 370Z once it arrives in November.

I'm looking at these components:
Alpine IVE-W535HD 2-DIN HU - Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.
2 pair of JL Audio C5-650 - C5-650 - Car Audio - Evolution® - C5 - Component Systems - JL Audio
1 JL Audio HD600/4 - HD600/4 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - HD - JL Audio
1 JL Audio HD750/1 - HD750/1 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - HD - JL Audio
1 JL Audio Stealthbox - Car Audio - Stealthbox® - Nissan - 370Z

At this point, I'm looking to have Sound Xpression do the install. Sound Xpression Car Audio & Mobile Video BigAudioFanat(ic) has mentioned he'd be willing to do the install too if enough people in the area were interested in having him come to Phoenix to do installs for them.

Any thoughts or suggestions? I was also pondering a box from Custom Sub Enclosure | Affordable Sub Box or having Sound Xpression fab a custom one. The later option would add considerably more to the cost of the system but would likely be the best-looking of the bunch (at least, according to the owner of the audio shop). Also, the audio shop guy mentioned that a cheaper speaker option (perhaps the C3 instead of the C5) would still sound good in the rear and would cut cost a bit. Lastly, is it really worth doing two separate amps vs one larger amp? I am going more for sound quality than loudness, so would one larger amp be sufficient?

Also, it would appear that Alpine isn't yet shipping the IVE-W535HD. Does anyone know if it is likely to be available by November?

Thanks in advance for the help!

bigaudiofanat · 09-16-2012, 04:57 PM

IMO JL is pretty expensive for what you get in return. There are many other brand that product a better product for equal or less money. I would recommend looking at a PDX5 as a all in one amp, as for speakers check out hertz for that kind of money or image dynamics for getting something better for cheaper. The stealthbox check out wicked's stealth box or stick to your JL one.

Just JL is not the best and for what your paying you can get some really nice stuff. If your set on JL go ahead with it.

leighspped · 09-16-2012, 05:02 PM

enjoy the subs! 750rms subs should get it bumping

Naenyn · 09-16-2012, 06:46 PM

Thanks for the feedback, guys! Big, I will definitely look in to those.

bigaudiofanat · 09-16-2012, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naenyn

Thanks for the feedback, guys! Big, I will definitely look in to those.

Your welcome, also with investing that kind of money, make sure to invest in something like second skin or dynamat to help with better sound.

Naenyn · 09-18-2012, 12:30 AM

Do any of you have any experience with the Kenwood - DDX419?

A local audio shop is recommending it as an alternative to the Alpine unit I was considering.. this looks like it'd be closer to what I'm really looking for, but I don't have any personal experience with Kenwood .. just heard good things.

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2012, 07:28 AM

They are pretty comparable, I would say the alpine may still be better, however if your looking for color matching buttons you will have to go with the kenwood.

anhdat503 · 09-18-2012, 01:04 PM

That nice all most like my car

Naenyn · 09-19-2012, 12:36 AM

Was quoted the following from a local audio shop:

Kenwood DDX419 =349.90
Dash kit =92.95 ( http://www.bestkits.com/results.php?modelkey=1419 )
Wire harness = 19.95
Antenna adt. 19.90
Steering wheel controls =84.90 (is this really needed?)
JL Audio C3 comp. set.= 429.90 pr
JL audio hd900/5 amp = 999.90
JL Audio 370z stealth box =949.90
4 gauge Amp kit =139.90
Sub total parts =3517.10

Labor radio = 85.00
Labor steering wheel adt = 130.00
Labor comp. speakers = 100.00 pr
Labor 5 channel amp = 100.00
Labor Stealth box = 65.00
Sub total labor = 580.00

So:
$ 3517.10
Tax 309.50
Labor 580.00
= 4406.60

He said he'd do it for $3900 as I'd be a repeat customer.

Oh, he'd also charge $800 for sound deadening (includes hatch, doors, and roof; I haven't even realized the roof was an issue).

Seems a bit on the high side .. I was hoping to be closer to 3k. Can't decide what to do... What do you guys think? Is this a reasonable deal?

Naenyn · 09-23-2012, 05:04 PM

Decided to change up my build a little. Now looking at:

Kenwood DDX419
JL C5-650 up front
JL C3-650 in the rear
JL HD900/5
Z Enclosure ( Custom Sub Enclosure | Affordable Sub Box
)
JL 10W3v3 x 2

Regarding the subs, 4 ohm is better for sound quality but 2 ohm is better for loudness, correct?

Also, going to hold off on the sound deadening until after I get the stereo installed and see how things sound.

Lemme know what you guys think!

bigaudiofanat · 09-23-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naenyn

Was quoted the following from a local audio shop:

Kenwood DDX419 =349.90
Dash kit =92.95 ( BestKits )
Wire harness = 19.95
Antenna adt. 19.90
Steering wheel controls =84.90 (is this really needed?)
JL Audio C3 comp. set.= 429.90 pr
JL audio hd900/5 amp = 999.90
JL Audio 370z stealth box =949.90
4 gauge Amp kit =139.90
Sub total parts =3517.10

Labor radio = 85.00
Labor steering wheel adt = 130.00
Labor comp. speakers = 100.00 pr
Labor 5 channel amp = 100.00
Labor Stealth box = 65.00
Sub total labor = 580.00

So:
$ 3517.10
Tax 309.50
Labor 580.00
= 4406.60

He said he'd do it for $3900 as I'd be a repeat customer.

Oh, he'd also charge $800 for sound deadening (includes hatch, doors, and roof; I haven't even realized the roof was an issue).

Seems a bit on the high side .. I was hoping to be closer to 3k. Can't decide what to do... What do you guys think? Is this a reasonable deal?

That is way expensive!!!!

Naenyn · 09-24-2012, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

That is way expensive!!!!

I understand that the components are expensive, but is the labor as well?

The same shop quoted me $800 for parts/labor to install the later list of components I listed. Not sure if that is good or not.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2012, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naenyn

I understand that the components are expensive, but is the labor as well?

The same shop quoted me $800 for parts/labor to install the later list of components I listed. Not sure if that is good or not.

The labor is questionable but the parts yes.

Naenyn · 09-25-2012, 04:43 PM

After much input from Big, this is the latest revision of my build. Lemme know what you guys think!

Kenwood DDX419 head unit
Hertz ESK 165 up front
Hertz ECX 87 in the rear
Z Enclosure ( Custom Sub Enclosure | Affordable Sub Box )
Image Dynamics ID10D4 v.3 sub
Focal FPP 5300 amp

Thoughts?

bigaudiofanat · 09-25-2012, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naenyn

After much input from Big, this is the latest revision of my build. Lemme know what you guys think!

Kenwood DDX419 head unit
Hertz ESK 165 up front
Hertz ECX 87 in the rear
Z Enclosure ( Custom Sub Enclosure | Affordable Sub Box )
Image Dynamics ID10D4 v.3 sub
Focal FPP 5300 amp

Thoughts?

MUCH better

09-16-2012, 01:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	Planning a stereo system for when my Nismo shows up So I have a bit of previous experience with Apline HUs and JL Audio speakers and was looking to plan out a new stereo system for my 370Z once it arrives in November. I'm looking at these components: Alpine IVE-W535HD 2-DIN HU - Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. 2 pair of JL Audio C5-650 - C5-650 - Car Audio - Evolution® - C5 - Component Systems - JL Audio 1 JL Audio HD600/4 - HD600/4 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - HD - JL Audio 1 JL Audio HD750/1 - HD750/1 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - HD - JL Audio 1 JL Audio Stealthbox - Car Audio - Stealthbox® - Nissan - 370Z At this point, I'm looking to have Sound Xpression do the install. Sound Xpression Car Audio & Mobile Video BigAudioFanat(ic) has mentioned he'd be willing to do the install too if enough people in the area were interested in having him come to Phoenix to do installs for them. Any thoughts or suggestions? I was also pondering a box from Custom Sub Enclosure \| Affordable Sub Box or having Sound Xpression fab a custom one. The later option would add considerably more to the cost of the system but would likely be the best-looking of the bunch (at least, according to the owner of the audio shop). Also, the audio shop guy mentioned that a cheaper speaker option (perhaps the C3 instead of the C5) would still sound good in the rear and would cut cost a bit. Lastly, is it really worth doing two separate amps vs one larger amp? I am going more for sound quality than loudness, so would one larger amp be sufficient? Also, it would appear that Alpine isn't yet shipping the IVE-W535HD. Does anyone know if it is likely to be available by November? Thanks in advance for the help! Last edited by Naenyn; 09-16-2012 at 02:01 AM.

09-16-2012, 04:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	IMO JL is pretty expensive for what you get in return. There are many other brand that product a better product for equal or less money. I would recommend looking at a PDX5 as a all in one amp, as for speakers check out hertz for that kind of money or image dynamics for getting something better for cheaper. The stealthbox check out wicked's stealth box or stick to your JL one. Just JL is not the best and for what your paying you can get some really nice stuff. If your set on JL go ahead with it. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-16-2012, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
leighspped Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Morristown Posts: 444 Drives: US Rep Power: 14	enjoy the subs! 750rms subs should get it bumping __________________ Performance: Fast Intentions LTH + CBX + Injen CAI + UpRev + KW3 + Whiteline sway bars + short throw shifter + 34r oil cooler = 335whp + (OS Giken Clutch and Diff) Interior : Recaro seat + Alpine HU and Rockford Fosgate Amp and Speakers + Passport 9500ci + JDM shift knob + LED's Forged avant garde m310's 19x9 19x12 RE-11

09-18-2012, 07:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	They are pretty comparable, I would say the alpine may still be better, however if your looking for color matching buttons you will have to go with the kenwood. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-18-2012, 01:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
anhdat503 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 216 Drives: 12 Nissan 370z NismO Rep Power: 12	That nice all most like my car __________________ Injen IntakesHKS Hi-Power Ti ExhaustTein LoweringStillen Sway BarsSPC Front & RearBlack Door HandleBlackOut TailLightsNismo CF Shift KnobCF Hood StrutsCF Cubby DoorCF Shifter TrimCF Radiator CoverCF Brake Fluid Cover & Battery Cover

09-16-2012, 06:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	Thanks for the feedback, guys! Big, I will definitely look in to those.

09-18-2012, 12:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	Do any of you have any experience with the Kenwood - DDX419? A local audio shop is recommending it as an alternative to the Alpine unit I was considering.. this looks like it'd be closer to what I'm really looking for, but I don't have any personal experience with Kenwood .. just heard good things.

09-19-2012, 12:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	Was quoted the following from a local audio shop: Kenwood DDX419 =349.90 Dash kit =92.95 ( http://www.bestkits.com/results.php?modelkey=1419 ) Wire harness = 19.95 Antenna adt. 19.90 Steering wheel controls =84.90 (is this really needed?) JL Audio C3 comp. set.= 429.90 pr JL audio hd900/5 amp = 999.90 JL Audio 370z stealth box =949.90 4 gauge Amp kit =139.90 Sub total parts =3517.10 Labor radio = 85.00 Labor steering wheel adt = 130.00 Labor comp. speakers = 100.00 pr Labor 5 channel amp = 100.00 Labor Stealth box = 65.00 Sub total labor = 580.00 So: $ 3517.10 Tax 309.50 Labor 580.00 = 4406.60 He said he'd do it for $3900 as I'd be a repeat customer. Oh, he'd also charge $800 for sound deadening (includes hatch, doors, and roof; I haven't even realized the roof was an issue). Seems a bit on the high side .. I was hoping to be closer to 3k. Can't decide what to do... What do you guys think? Is this a reasonable deal?

09-23-2012, 05:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	Decided to change up my build a little. Now looking at: Kenwood DDX419 JL C5-650 up front JL C3-650 in the rear JL HD900/5 Z Enclosure ( Custom Sub Enclosure \| Affordable Sub Box ) JL 10W3v3 x 2 Regarding the subs, 4 ohm is better for sound quality but 2 ohm is better for loudness, correct? Also, going to hold off on the sound deadening until after I get the stereo installed and see how things sound. Lemme know what you guys think!

09-25-2012, 04:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
Naenyn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 212 Drives: '13 Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 12	After much input from Big, this is the latest revision of my build. Lemme know what you guys think! Kenwood DDX419 head unit Hertz ESK 165 up front Hertz ECX 87 in the rear Z Enclosure ( Custom Sub Enclosure \| Affordable Sub Box ) Image Dynamics ID10D4 v.3 sub Focal FPP 5300 amp Thoughts?

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