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Vertigo · 06-12-2012, 09:49 AM

Thanks for all of the thread comments.
I guess the failure of the sub is probably due to a wiring error of 1ohm instead of being at 4ohms.

The thing I'm still not getting is, the other JL sub I have is still working completely fine being wired at 1ohm, and doesn't sound like it's getting too much power whatsoever. My volume levels are still as low as they were when the 1 sub stopped working.

If the wiring caused the subs to get wayyyyyy too much power, shouldn't they both be dead, instead of one being toast and the other working as good as new?

This is why I think there's something defective with the one sub.

reunited · 06-12-2012, 11:48 AM

a) Title of post
b) acknowledgement by OP that subs were wired wrong and received way too much power
c) one sub failed, the other didn't
d) Conclusion: since ONE sub did not fail, then the sub that failed must have been defective.

??????

Does this fail to make sense to anyone else or am I just having a bad day?

Vertigo · 06-12-2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reunited

a) Title of post
b) acknowledgement by OP that subs were wired wrong and received way too much power
c) one sub failed, the other didn't
d) Conclusion: since ONE sub did not fail, then the sub that failed must have been defective.

??????

Does this fail to make sense to anyone else or am I just having a bad day?

^ you're having a bad day.

vividracing · 06-12-2012, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo

Thanks for all of the thread comments.
I guess the failure of the sub is probably due to a wiring error of 1ohm instead of being at 4ohms.

The thing I'm still not getting is, the other JL sub I have is still working completely fine being wired at 1ohm, and doesn't sound like it's getting too much power whatsoever. My volume levels are still as low as they were when the 1 sub stopped working.

If the wiring caused the subs to get wayyyyyy too much power, shouldn't they both be dead, instead of one being toast and the other working as good as new?

This is why I think there's something defective with the one sub.

You were overpowering them substantially. If there was a defect, it wasn't the ultimate source of the failure. It may have allowed the woofer to fail sooner than the other, but the fact remains that they were severely overpowered.

Let's put it this way... If I put 2 brand new cars on the dyno and run them both at 2000 RPM over redline and one blows up before the other I can't really say that car was defective. It was being pushed beyond it's engineered limits. The other car just held out longer. Maybe the car that lasted longer was built a little better, maybe not.

Vertigo · 06-12-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

You were overpowering them substantially. If there was a defect, it wasn't the ultimate source of the failure. It may have allowed the woofer to fail sooner than the other, but the fact remains that they were severely overpowered.

Let's put it this way... If I put 2 brand new cars on the dyno and run them both at 2000 RPM over redline and one blows up before the other I can't really say that car was defective. It was being pushed beyond it's engineered limits. The other car just held out longer. Maybe the car that lasted longer was built a little better, maybe not.

Makes sense when you put it that way.
Thanks for everyone's patience with my questions.

Wicked CAS · 06-18-2012, 03:42 PM

One point I need to get out is, Being a Forum Sponsor who gives great prices to Forum members while trying to maintain a certain amount of profit to stay in business... This would have been brought up while putting a system together... And warranty issue would have been handled allready.

Keep that in mind...

sig11 · 06-18-2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked CAS

One point I need to get out is, Being a Forum Sponsor who gives great prices to Forum members while trying to maintain a certain amount of profit to stay in business... This would have been brought up while putting a system together... And warranty issue would have been handled allready.

Keep that in mind...

You've always been great to do business with too!

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06-12-2012, 09:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vertigo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 15,476 Drives: 370z / R32 Rep Power: 222	Thanks for all of the thread comments. I guess the failure of the sub is probably due to a wiring error of 1ohm instead of being at 4ohms. The thing I'm still not getting is, the other JL sub I have is still working completely fine being wired at 1ohm, and doesn't sound like it's getting too much power whatsoever. My volume levels are still as low as they were when the 1 sub stopped working. If the wiring caused the subs to get wayyyyyy too much power, shouldn't they both be dead, instead of one being toast and the other working as good as new? This is why I think there's something defective with the one sub.

06-12-2012, 11:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
reunited Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: meta state Posts: 72 Drives: 12 370 AT, sport Rep Power: 15	a) Title of post b) acknowledgement by OP that subs were wired wrong and received way too much power c) one sub failed, the other didn't d) Conclusion: since ONE sub did not fail, then the sub that failed must have been defective. ?????? Does this fail to make sense to anyone else or am I just having a bad day?