My spare tire sub audio build.... need some help!

Astrosfan · 12-20-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guard Dad

You do this for a living so you would have way more experience than I but I can say that the Pioneer is only 3" deep, costs about $100, works in a compact enclosure and sounds great for a real-world (good bass but no blown out windows) kind of system.

I was just thinking the same thing.....

BIG, what focal were you recommending? I was looking around and they seem pretty pricey...!!!!!

Astrosfan · 12-20-2011, 03:31 PM

I was originally considering these....
JLw3 8(assuming theres enough clearance)
Memphis Reference shallow mount 10", 15-mr10d4
Pioneer shallow mount 10, TS-SW250IS4
Kenwood KFC-XW1000F....

bigaudiofanat · 12-20-2011, 04:52 PM

That would be my fault, I could of swarn I remember focal doing a slim line sub when I was looking through a magazine last year Hmmm. JL or Kenwood depending on what you want to spend.

eastwest2300 · 12-20-2011, 07:27 PM

Nice setup..

Guard Dad · 12-20-2011, 10:36 PM

The Pioneer has a pronounced "spacer" ring on the front face of the speaker and the speaker cone is placed such that it really doesn't need front clearance at any semi-reasonable volume level.

At some point it comes down to how much money you want to spend and how much cargo space you need. I think that this approach really rocks considering cost and and cargo space. It makes the factory system sound like a kid's toy. But better systems can be had if you choose to go big and go with sub boxes and multi-channel amps.

Astrosfan · 12-28-2011, 02:47 PM

Update:

Installed my Pioneer avic-x930bt on Monday. Took close to 8 hrs, and installed the back up camera. When attempting to move the mute wire over one pin to the left on the pioneer harness, i broke the pin

Now i have no idea what to do to in order to bypass the nav/dvd function while driving..... sux! but at least everything still works....

Anyways, i LOVE the HU so far and my polk db6501s sound much better!

I plan on ordering the ARC XXD4080 and pioneer shallow mount 10" today, everything else is ready!

Astrosfan · 01-20-2012, 02:09 PM

Im finally almost finished with my build the only thing left is a speaker grill, redo the carbon fiber film and mounting/tuning my amp! oh, and i bought enough dynamat to do the entire car. but thats gonna have to wait a little while. here are some pic. more to come....

Please let me know if you have any questions on the process.

Not bad for a first timer....
oh, and i know the cuts arent perfect. This was all done with a battery powered jigsaw , a drill and some sandpaper. The floor is also in the process of being leveled.

Astrosfan · 01-20-2012, 02:10 PM

morrrr

reunited · 01-21-2012, 12:13 PM

How is everybody holding down their enclosures and preventing bumps/thumps?

My intended approach is to use a fabricated "T" bolt which would bolt from the inside (with gasket) and keep the enclosure and the tire together. This has one obvious disadvantage in the event of a flat but some (?) advantages.

Do your subs bump/thump on uneven road surfaces?

I'm starting mine next week ... also using the Pioneer.)

(I think we should form a DIY subclub ... we can have a secret handshake and everything.)

Regards-
Bill

Astrosfan · 01-24-2012, 10:12 AM

i havent had any issues with the box or false floor moving around. Im silply using industrial velcro to hold the pieces down, they are very light. they box sits pretty snug on the spare tire. I plan on using some dynomat to ensure its in there tight. I dont think it would come out during an accident. The box would first have to come straight up about a foot and only then could it move around freely in the back. The box is the least of my worries if i get in another accident.

Astrosfan · 01-24-2012, 10:13 AM

oh, and i really thought i would have gotten more feedback on this build. guess it looks like ****

RonRizz · 01-24-2012, 03:32 PM

Looks good. Nice and clean

reunited · 01-25-2012, 02:06 PM

No, your build looks great, its just that you are an Astros fan that delayed my response!

As you know, I am starting my own build ... I'll post pictures of the project as I go along.

I've learned alot from you, Antennahead, mecha1000. jikhead, sigur, chimaera, Guard dad and others attempting the same idea. Many thanks to each of you and others who I may have left out of my acknowledgement.

This build concept is alot more complex than just gluing a bunch of rings together and you're done. Sure, that's one approach but one that doesn't appeal to me. My goal is to advance the overall concept through incremental improvements...

We'll see if I'm successful or not.

Again, a very fine build and thanks for sharing...
Bill

Astrosfan · 01-26-2012, 12:57 PM

thanks! i appreciate the feedback. this took about 50+ hrs and a 'few' cases of beer to build.

I highly recommend using a router to create the rings. It took forever using a jigsaw!

Alot of the 50+ hrs was just figuring the correct way to do it and making sure the pieces for the false floor joined flush.... lots of sanding!

Astrosfan · 01-26-2012, 12:58 PM

i should be uploading more pics soon. let me know if you have any questions. I'll help ya out

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01-21-2012, 12:13 PM	#24 (permalink)
reunited Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: meta state Posts: 72 Drives: 12 370 AT, sport Rep Power: 13	How is everybody holding down their enclosures and preventing bumps/thumps? My intended approach is to use a fabricated "T" bolt which would bolt from the inside (with gasket) and keep the enclosure and the tire together. This has one obvious disadvantage in the event of a flat but some (?) advantages. Do your subs bump/thump on uneven road surfaces? I'm starting mine next week ... also using the Pioneer.) (I think we should form a DIY subclub ... we can have a secret handshake and everything.) Regards- Bill Last edited by reunited; 01-21-2012 at 12:35 PM.

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12-20-2011, 03:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	I was originally considering these.... JLw3 8(assuming theres enough clearance) Memphis Reference shallow mount 10", 15-mr10d4 Pioneer shallow mount 10, TS-SW250IS4 Kenwood KFC-XW1000F....

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Guard Dad Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2010 370Z Silver A7 Rep Power: 14	The Pioneer has a pronounced "spacer" ring on the front face of the speaker and the speaker cone is placed such that it really doesn't need front clearance at any semi-reasonable volume level. At some point it comes down to how much money you want to spend and how much cargo space you need. I think that this approach really rocks considering cost and and cargo space. It makes the factory system sound like a kid's toy. But better systems can be had if you choose to go big and go with sub boxes and multi-channel amps.

12-28-2011, 02:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	Update: Installed my Pioneer avic-x930bt on Monday. Took close to 8 hrs, and installed the back up camera. When attempting to move the mute wire over one pin to the left on the pioneer harness, i broke the pin Now i have no idea what to do to in order to bypass the nav/dvd function while driving..... sux! but at least everything still works.... Anyways, i LOVE the HU so far and my polk db6501s sound much better! I plan on ordering the ARC XXD4080 and pioneer shallow mount 10" today, everything else is ready!

01-24-2012, 10:12 AM	#25 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	i havent had any issues with the box or false floor moving around. Im silply using industrial velcro to hold the pieces down, they are very light. they box sits pretty snug on the spare tire. I plan on using some dynomat to ensure its in there tight. I dont think it would come out during an accident. The box would first have to come straight up about a foot and only then could it move around freely in the back. The box is the least of my worries if i get in another accident.

01-24-2012, 10:13 AM	#26 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	oh, and i really thought i would have gotten more feedback on this build. guess it looks like ****

01-25-2012, 02:06 PM	#28 (permalink)
reunited Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: meta state Posts: 72 Drives: 12 370 AT, sport Rep Power: 13	No, your build looks great, its just that you are an Astros fan that delayed my response! As you know, I am starting my own build ... I'll post pictures of the project as I go along. I've learned alot from you, Antennahead, mecha1000. jikhead, sigur, chimaera, Guard dad and others attempting the same idea. Many thanks to each of you and others who I may have left out of my acknowledgement. This build concept is alot more complex than just gluing a bunch of rings together and you're done. Sure, that's one approach but one that doesn't appeal to me. My goal is to advance the overall concept through incremental improvements... We'll see if I'm successful or not. Again, a very fine build and thanks for sharing... Bill

01-26-2012, 12:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	thanks! i appreciate the feedback. this took about 50+ hrs and a 'few' cases of beer to build. I highly recommend using a router to create the rings. It took forever using a jigsaw! Alot of the 50+ hrs was just figuring the correct way to do it and making sure the pieces for the false floor joined flush.... lots of sanding!

01-26-2012, 12:58 PM	#30 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	i should be uploading more pics soon. let me know if you have any questions. I'll help ya out