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ShoFamous 07-21-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1221020)
The mod I do is to the existing harness in the 2010 car, thus I need the car with me to facilitate the mod. I have done this to my car and two others quite easily ( I am an elec. tech) HOWEVER, the only reason I have done this was because I am somewhat handy with a soldering iron and because Brian was experiencing a family loss at the time I wanted to do the mod. I bought his camera harness kit first and was extremely happy with the quality and build, and would have purchased the NAV/Camera/DVD hack too if it would have been available at the time.

BUY BRIAN'S MOD! It's worth every penny....
Having said that, I am happy to do mods like this for materials cost plus a coffee to anyone in the Edmonton area, lol!

Otherwise, NAVTool for 2009 cars plus the soldering hack: 2010 Hack HERE. Just use the 2009 FSM for the correct pinouts for power and VSS. The DVD would have to be connected via the NAVtool and the Camera would activate thru the Navtool as well.

As for building a harness to connect a 2010 head to the 2009 vehicle... :icon14:.... I don't know. The screen is different too....

Da da dammit mannnn.

Sad day. Well guess I'll have to stash a DVD player somewhere lol. Or a 360/PS3 if I can find a place to put it lol. Thanks for the update!

bdl99 07-21-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ShoFamous (Post 1224082)
Da da dammit mannnn.

Sad day. Well guess I'll have to stash a DVD player somewhere lol. Or a 360/PS3 if I can find a place to put it lol. Thanks for the update!

Actually hot off the press, they now list the 40 pin connector that is required to make a bypass kit for the 2009 models.

All I need now is to find someone willing to sell me a reasonable minimum quantity which isn't in the thousands.

wheee! 07-21-2011 05:34 PM

To Clarify: This would allow you to build a kit that bypassed VSS only, correct? Or does the 2009 head unit also contain the software for the backup camera already like the 2010 does? Since there is no DVD to enable, that is redundant.

bdl99 07-21-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1224193)
To Clarify: This would allow you to build a kit that bypassed VSS only, correct? Or does the 2009 head unit also contain the software for the backup camera already like the 2010 does? Since there is no DVD to enable, that is redundant.

Ah, good point. I was thinking about the GT-R and other Nissan models where they have the DVD player but they use the 40pin connectors (Nissan Murano for example).

However, doesn't the 2009 have an AUX video input? The wiring diagram shows one?

wheee! 07-21-2011 07:51 PM

I believe it is in the console/armrest and yes, we should then have a video input to the screen on the connector. Question is: has someone with a 2009 checked to see if the software is on the head unit?

I forget the steps, but I think it is car "on" but engine off; radio off, turn radio volume 40 clicks counter clockwise....

someone double check that.

ShoFamous 07-22-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1224447)
I believe it is in the console/armrest and yes, we should then have a video input to the screen on the connector. Question is: has someone with a 2009 checked to see if the software is on the head unit?

I forget the steps, but I think it is car "on" but engine off; radio off, turn radio volume 40 clicks counter clockwise....

someone double check that.


I can check after 5. Thanks

bdl99 07-22-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShoFamous (Post 1225446)
I can check after 5. Thanks

I'm almost certain that the menu item isn't there.

But can you please check that when using a video input that it wont work if the parking brake is off or if the car is travelling at more than 5mph.

If I can get the 40 pin connectors I would make the bypass kit:
1) Bypass the restrictions mentioned above and allow NAV input which is disabled
2) I could make it support the 2009 backup camera solution so that pressing the other button would enable the backup camera when not in reverse.

ShoFamous 07-22-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1225476)
I'm almost certain that the menu item isn't there.

But can you please check that when using a video input that it wont work if the parking brake is off or if the car is travelling at more than 5mph.

If I can get the 40 pin connectors I would make the bypass kit:
1) Bypass the restrictions mentioned above and allow NAV input which is disabled
2) I could make it support the 2009 backup camera solution so that pressing the other button would enable the backup camera when not in reverse.

I don't mind, as soon as I get off I'll test it out. We're doing the Texas Heatwave show here in Austin so I'm sure someone will let me use a DVD player to test it.

V8Killer 07-22-2011 02:22 PM

Sounds promising I hope this works out. I am overseas and never tried it out so if I stick a dvd in my cd play on my 09 it won't play the movie?

wheee! 07-22-2011 02:42 PM

The '09 370Z does not support DVD in the stock player.

You need NAVtool to connect to a dvd player then input into the Video In

ShoFamous 07-22-2011 02:47 PM

Where are you at V8K? I got back from #3 this past Sept.

V8Killer 07-23-2011 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ShoFamous (Post 1225589)
Where are you at V8K? I got back from #3 this past Sept.

Afghan right now can't really say b/c of OPSEC, but you know how that goes. Glad to hear you made it back. I got out of the Corps back in 05 and now I'm a contractor so I've been doing this for a little bit now. What is this Navtool I keep seeing people talk about?

bdl99 07-23-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1226331)
Afghan right now can't really say b/c of OPSEC, but you know how that goes. Glad to hear you made it back. I got out of the Corps back in 05 and now I'm a contractor so I've been doing this for a little bit now. What is this Navtool I keep seeing people talk about?

On the 2010/11 cars the screen has both a composite video in (for the backup camera) and an RGB input for NAV etc. On the 2009 car it just has an RGB input. The Navtool is basically a Composite to RGB converter that allows you to input regular(composite) video from a camera or source like DVD player etc. JeffBlue organized a group buy for the 2009 owners requiring the Navtools while I concentrated on a solution for the 2010/11 owners because there wasn't one.

The other difference between the 2009 and 2010/11 cars is related to the bypass kit, the difference is that the sensing wires (reverse, parking brake, speed etc) are on a 40pin connector on the 2009 cars and 32pin on the 2010/11. Up to this point the 40pin connector wasn't available and hence the kit was only available for the 2010/11 cars.

Roadster4Us 07-31-2011 03:23 PM

Just finished the install of the backup camera and the bypass kit. Took me about five hours total taking my time. That's ripping everything out, installing and putting everything back together.

I have purchased a lot of car items in my years, but I have never seen such a well put together kit as Brian's. I have also never seen anyone pay so much attention as Brian does to the instructions.

Excellent product with tremendous support. Thanks Brian!!! :bowdown:

Billarf 07-31-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us (Post 1238460)
I have purchased a lot of car items in my years, but I have never seen such a well put together kit as Brian's. I have also never seen anyone pay so much attention as Brian does to the instructions.

Excellent product with tremendous support. Thanks Brian!!! :bowdown:


I would have to agree with the above wholeheartedly. Those that have installed either the back-up camera kit, the Bypass kit or both kits can all testify to this. 370Z owner's here are truly lucky to have Brian offering such quality, well performing kits and at such reasonable prices! Those that have not taken advantage of one of Brian's offerings while he is offering them are really missing the boat so to speak.

Meric1837 08-01-2011 04:15 PM

I joined this forum just for this thread. Getting my 2011 370Z (Touring, Sport Pkg., Nav. Pkg.) on Wednesday. This looks like a must-do mod if Brian is still selling these things. Just reading through the thread has been very useful. Now I just gotta figure out how to get my Valentine 1 hardwired, windows tinted, and flux capacitor installed...

marrim 08-02-2011 03:54 PM

Ok guys, I'm confused, you give Brian props for a great product and all the help wich I completely aggree with, yet not one person has given him a rep point. Show the love.....


+1 Rep Point


Marrim

wheee! 08-02-2011 04:19 PM

ummm... repped him months ago....

but I will do it again! :p

ShoFamous 08-03-2011 04:26 PM

Same here when I 1st saw that he made exactly what I was looking for. +332!

xTIMMYxCOREx 08-04-2011 07:24 PM

Is the 2010 Roadster Bypass kit ready for order yet?

Also does it have the ability to enable the side mirror cameras??

Zrider79 08-11-2011 12:40 AM

How much for kit and camera shipped to 32526.

bdl99 08-11-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by xTIMMYxCOREx (Post 1245715)
Is the 2010 Roadster Bypass kit ready for order yet?

Sorry, I thought I had already answered this; there are two version of the bypass kit: 1) Switch based and 2) Remote. The Roaster owners seem to prefer the the remote version because it doesn't require a blank switch plate (the one between the existing heated seat switches for most owners). Both kits are available and several have already purchased. With the switch based kits there is a waiting list because demand is slightly greater than supply

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Originally Posted by xTIMMYxCOREx (Post 1245715)
Also does it have the ability to enable the side mirror cameras??

Do you mean add the side cameras? The bypass kit basically makes the car think it is in reverse, so what ever you get when you put the car in reverse is what you will get when you enable the cameras via the bypass switch.

I do have it on the list to see if I could "Add" side cameras, but it is low down the list because:
1) I have already established that none of the wiring is present, meaning this would be a major undertaking if even possible.
2) I think the demand would be low given the complexity of install and the cost.

bdl99 08-11-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zrider79 (Post 1255826)
How much for kit and camera shipped to 32526.

Price and details available here

ShoFamous 08-11-2011 11:30 AM

I'm ready to order but I have a 2009. Anything special I need to add since everything on the site is listed for the 2010? I want the bypass switch & camera. Thank you.

bdl99 08-11-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ShoFamous (Post 1256358)
I'm ready to order but I have a 2009. Anything special I need to add since everything on the site is listed for the 2010? I want the bypass switch & camera. Thank you.

Sorry, the 2009 is not supported.

For the camera solution search on Navtool and you will find the solution.

For the bypass there are two issues:
1) I've not been able to source the required the required 40 pin connectors
2) If you go the Navtool route the bypass has less appeal because the DVD bypass is not required you would just be getting the Nav Bypass and camera override if connected to the Navtool device.

ShoFamous 08-11-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1256396)
Sorry, the 2009 is not supported.

For the camera solution search on Navtool and you will find the solution.

For the bypass there are two issues:
1) I've not been able to source the required the required 40 pin connectors
2) If you go the Navtool route the bypass has less appeal because the DVD bypass is not required you would just be getting the Nav Bypass and camera override if connected to the Navtool device.

Oh ok, I misunderstood then. No worries. My plan is to hook a PS3 as my DVD source, but will the NavTool still allow it to be displayed on the Nav screen while in motion & allow the reverse camera to be displayed in motion? Thanks!

Meric1837 08-11-2011 04:30 PM

Got mine ordered. Just waiting on delivery. I look forward to (gently) ripping my center console apart. Once I get it up and running I'll post confirmation that it works with a 2011 Nav with factory camera. However, since the wiring is no different than the numerous 2010 posts with the 2011 camera, I don't anticipate any problems. Thanks Brian!

bdl99 08-11-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Meric1837 (Post 1256960)
Got mine ordered. Just waiting on delivery. I look forward to (gently) ripping my center console apart. Once I get it up and running I'll post confirmation that it works with a 2011 Nav with factory camera. However, since the wiring is no different than the numerous 2010 posts with the 2011 camera, I don't anticipate any problems. Thanks Brian!

Your kit will ship in the morning. There has been a couple of people already install the kits on 2011s with factory cameras. The only difference is you need to earth it because I include an extra power/earth connector with my camera kit that you will not have.

Meric1837 08-15-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1257656)
Your kit will ship in the morning. There has been a couple of people already install the kits on 2011s with factory cameras. The only difference is you need to earth it because I include an extra power/earth connector with my camera kit that you will not have.

And the included instruction show how to do that right? I'm asking becuase I don't know what 'it' needs to be earthed. I'm sure I'll understand better when I see the kit. Does this mean I'm cutting factory wires? Part of the appeal of this kit was it being reversable for warranty work.

Meric1837 08-15-2011 09:35 PM

Done! Got it installed in less than an hour. Brian was even nice enough to provide a ground for the rear-video wire. Incidentally Brian, if you make another one like that you might want to make the ground wire at least as long as the wire leading to the toggle switch. I grounded it to one of the 4 bolts in the transmission boot area, but barely on the end of the fork. It was hard to get the bolt tightened with that grounding fork on there and there was a great place to ground next to the toggle switch but the cable just wasn't long enough. Just a small suggestion, I really appreciate you providing that extra piece.

The install wasn't too difficult. My only notes:

1. There's a black box on the kit which I'm guessing is a relay. It's not that big but finding a place for it behind the head unit can be tricky. There's a place behind the start button wire or the airbag wire it can easily fit. This really helped getting the head unit back in place properly.

2. GET SOME TOWELS. This is a biggie if you don't want to scratch your plastic pieces. If you have the manual transmission there are metal clips that hold the cover on. Unless you plan on taking the shift knob off, I recommend using a towel to cover the area just above the heating switches as that piece will move back and forth a lot as you remove the rest of the center dash, scratching the plastic. I discovered this about half-way through the install and took some damage. Nothing major, but it could have been easily avoided.

3. As long as you have the center piece off you might as well clean your LCD screen. It can be hard to get to the screen edges with the console in place.

That's about it. The kit works as advertised. Once you flip the switch back from VSS-bypass to normal mode the GPS only takes about 50-70 yards before it queries the satellite and gets your position correct again. Piece of cake. Buy this kit. Can't recommend it highly enough. Brian is the man!

bdl99 08-16-2011 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Meric1837 (Post 1263528)
Brian was even nice enough to provide a ground for the rear-video wire. Incidentally Brian, if you make another one like that you might want to make the ground wire at least as long as the wire leading to the toggle switch. I grounded it to one of the 4 bolts in the transmission boot area, but barely on the end of the fork. It was hard to get the bolt tightened with that grounding fork on there and there was a great place to ground next to the toggle switch but the cable just wasn't long enough. Just a small suggestion, I really appreciate you providing that extra piece.

I was thinking that it could be grounded to one of the screen screens or the AV casing (that is where I did it on a Murano). I need to add a way for people ordering to let me know this is being used with a factory camera so I can include the extra ground wire for simplicity.

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Originally Posted by Meric1837 (Post 1263528)
The install wasn't too difficult. My only notes:

1. There's a black box on the kit which I'm guessing is a relay. It's not that big but finding a place for it behind the head unit can be tricky. There's a place behind the start button wire or the airbag wire it can easily fit. This really helped getting the head unit back in place properly.

Yes, that is a relay. I'm pretty sure with Jeff's install the relay was under the AV unit basically on the floor/carpet.

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Originally Posted by Meric1837 (Post 1263528)
2. GET SOME TOWELS. This is a biggie if you don't want to scratch your plastic pieces.

I've added this to the instructions, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Meric1837 (Post 1263528)
That's about it. The kit works as advertised. Once you flip the switch back from VSS-bypass to normal mode the GPS only takes about 50-70 yards before it queries the satellite and gets your position correct again. Piece of cake. Buy this kit. Can't recommend it highly enough. Brian is the man!

Thanks and glad you are pleased.

xTIMMYxCOREx 08-25-2011 01:12 PM

Just making sure, but the bypass kit will work fine with the reverse camera kit I bought from you last year and installed?

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1255947)
Sorry, I thought I had already answered this; there are two version of the bypass kit: 1) Switch based and 2) Remote. The Roaster owners seem to prefer the the remote version because it doesn't require a blank switch plate (the one between the existing heated seat switches for most owners). Both kits are available and several have already purchased. With the switch based kits there is a waiting list because demand is slightly greater than supply



Do you mean add the side cameras? The bypass kit basically makes the car think it is in reverse, so what ever you get when you put the car in reverse is what you will get when you enable the cameras via the bypass switch.

I do have it on the list to see if I could "Add" side cameras, but it is low down the list because:
1) I have already established that none of the wiring is present, meaning this would be a major undertaking if even possible.
2) I think the demand would be low given the complexity of install and the cost.


bdl99 08-25-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xTIMMYxCOREx (Post 1280645)
Just making sure, but the bypass kit will work fine with the reverse camera kit I bought from you last year and installed?

Absolutely, it was designed to do so. It will also work with cars with factory cameras.

N8GTOL 08-25-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 1202296)
I have had one other person (I think it was a GT-R) who reported something similar. I would check the Kenwood connector that is at the rear (or where ever you positioned it), that connector is probably more likely to have oxidized and I would try re-seating it. Let me know how you get on.

You were right, Brian. The Kenwood connector in the rear was the issue. I re-seated the connector and re-adjusted the wiring storage. Since then I have had no more issues due to bumpy roads.

So for anyone still following this I will reiterate...Brian's product (camera kit/bypass harness) was in no way related to my intermittent video feed. The Kenwood harness was the culprit.

Thanks again Brian for the great products and the product support!

gurneyeagle 09-01-2011 09:39 PM

For the terminally OCD
 
Installed my by-pass harness last weekend and it works great. Thanks Brian!

While the console was disassembled, I also installed my GTR red start button. The metallic red really pops in the black interior.

While I love the functionality and fit of the third toggle switch, the fact that it's got a seat symbol on it kind of bothered my inner-OCD nerdness. Since the symbol is engraved in the switch, painting it isn't a solution. I looked for a decal that might work, but nothing is small enough that makes sense in the interior, plus a decal is not thick enough to cover the engraving.

Then it hit me. I just received my set of Z valve stem caps from the Z Store. The Z cap is simply a vinyl button glued to a generic chrome stem. The button is black with a chrome Z symbol.

It looked like a possible fit, so I took an exacto knife and carefully pried one of the buttons off the valve stem cap. Most of the adhesive seemed to come off with the cap.

I then carefully centered it on the switch and it almost completely covered the seat symbol. Just the very corner of the seat top (practically a dot) remained exposed. Unless you are staring down at the button looking for it, you would never see it. If you didn't know to look for it, you would never notice it.

So you end up with three switches - the outboard seat toggles, and the center toggle with a small chrome Z on it. It actually blends in well with the silver trim and the black interior.

If anyone is interested, I'll post some pictures this weekend.

marrim 09-02-2011 02:30 AM

pics???

gurneyeagle 09-02-2011 09:10 PM

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Here's a crappy cell phone pic at night. I'll try and take a picture during the day tomorrow.

bdl99 09-03-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1295907)
Here's a crappy cell phone pic at night. I'll try and take a picture during the day tomorrow.

Looks good and looking forward to seeing a better picture.

For those who are on the fence regarding the bypass switch kits, I have just received the parts for another 6 kits and I'm seriously considering putting the price up for the next batch as the harnesses are so time consuming to make.

xck2034 09-07-2011 06:30 AM

Hi,

just want to say "many thanks" to Brian, I installed the rear view Camera Kit and the DVD in Motion with remote last week.
It works perfect. Just got a little trouble with the config of the camera, the positioning lines didn't appear. After a reinit and the introduction of the exact values it works perfect.

best regards
Pascal

Billarf 09-08-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xck2034 (Post 1301159)
Hi,

just want to say "many thanks" to Brian, I installed the rear view Camera Kit and the DVD in Motion with remote last week.
It works perfect. Just got a little trouble with the config of the camera, the positioning lines didn't appear. After a reinit and the introduction of the exact values it works perfect.

best regards
Pascal

Indeed, if you enter the wrong numbers in settings during set-up/install then things don't work right. Correcting the numbers and all works well from then on as you found out. The numbers entered have to be exact. Brian's kits are terrific to say the least...


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