Group Buy/Interest - 2011 Rear View Camera

wheee! · 11-30-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bdl99

The camera kit will be ready before the bypass kit for a number of reasons, one being the availability of connectors. I have a small number of the 32pin connectors required for the bypass kit and there are long lead times (I have ordered more but will take at least 2-3 weeks to come from Japan). I already have all the 24pin connectors for camera kits.

Adding the bypass kit later will be very easy and they do plug in to different places so not then end of the world to do separately. I agree there is interest in the bypass kits but also some are very keen to get their hands on the camera kits.

I also want to get some input on what you guys want. On the GT-R I used a remote because I didn't really have anywhere to put the 3 or 4 switches (or didn't want to). I would really like to work with a few of you on the best solution. I see a few potential offerings
1) For those happy to cut and splice wires then I can just write-up a free DIY guide
2) A plug and play harness so no cutting of original wires is required and you use you own switches
3) A plug and play harness with switches
4) A plug and play solution using the remote

I am wondering if we can't get a solution in 3A, where we use only one switch to bypass the NAV in motion and leave the DVD wire grounded all the time. If the DVD wire has no other effect other than to disable the DVD feature in motion it should be irrelevant to being grounded all the time. That would mean a single switch that could be placed in the console centre position. Centre position for the people with touring model or base as that spot is open on both. A factory style push button switch would be awesome and even better if it had an amber light to acknowledge the bypass mode...
thoughts?

bdl99 · 11-30-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

I am wondering if we can't get a solution in 3A, where we use only one switch to bypass the NAV in motion and leave the DVD wire grounded all the time. If the DVD wire has no other effect other than to disable the DVD feature in motion it should be irrelevant to being grounded all the time. That would mean a single switch that could be placed in the console centre position. Centre position for the people with touring model or base as that spot is open on both. A factory style push button switch would be awesome and even better if it had an amber light to acknowledge the bypass mode...
thoughts?

That is a good idea. Would you not be interested in the backup camera bypass? I quickly put the following together for anyone wanting to take the complete DIY approach.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...dJDtKoKnP54Qfs

Based on what I'm hearing what I could provide is a plug and play harness to achieve the same results but with NO cutting or tampering with any original wiring. The dilemma is that although the parts aren't that expensive the harnesses are very time consuming to make. I therefore need to to think about the price and get a sense of if people would be interested.

wheee! · 11-30-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99

That is a good idea. Would you not be interested in the backup camera bypass? I quickly put the following together for anyone wanting to take the complete DIY approach.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...dJDtKoKnP54Qfs

Based on what I'm hearing what I could provide is a plug and play harness to achieve the same results but with NO cutting or tampering with any original wiring. The dilemma is that although the parts aren't that expensive the harnesses are very time consuming to make. I therefore need to to think about the price and get a sense of if people would be interested.

I like your thinking and, yes, a switch that worked like the seat heaters that allowed a forward position to bypass NAV lock and a backwards position to engage rearview camera would be a perfect solution. If we could use a similar switch as the seat heaters I would definitely be in for that solution!

bdl99 · 11-30-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

I like your thinking and, yes, a switch that worked like the seat heaters that allowed a forward position to bypass NAV lock and a backwards position to engage rearview camera would be a perfect solution. If we could use a similar switch as the seat heaters I would definitely be in for that solution!

To do it with a single switch it would need to be a three position switch with up, down and neutral, it would also need to be two pole. Any other switches in the car that might meet that requirement and fit the hole? Can someone send me a picture of the back of any switches that might do the trick?

wheee! · 11-30-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99

That is a good idea. Would you not be interested in the backup camera bypass? I quickly put the following together for anyone wanting to take the complete DIY approach.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...dJDtKoKnP54Qfs

Based on what I'm hearing what I could provide is a plug and play harness to achieve the same results but with NO cutting or tampering with any original wiring. The dilemma is that although the parts aren't that expensive the harnesses are very time consuming to make. I therefore need to to think about the price and get a sense of if people would be interested.

Your image links are broken in your google doc by the way

PW370z · 11-30-2010, 07:34 PM

As far as the bypass kit is concerned....I think the remote is the best option. You can just store it in the glove box or center console, and then you or your passenger can control the settings. It would be like a movable switch console and you don't have to change the interior.

I would be down for a kit using a remote (like the one you made for the GTR). I don't want to add any switches to the interior, and already have the foglight switch in the center console between the seat heaters.

dixon cider · 11-30-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PW370z

As far as the bypass kit is concerned....I think the remote is the best option. You can just store it in the glove box or center console, and then you or your passenger can control the settings. It would be like a movable switch console and you don't have to change the interior.

I would be down for a kit using a remote (like the one you made for the GTR). I don't want to add any switches to the interior, and already have the foglight switch in the center console between the seat heaters.

Having a convertible, and heated/cooled seats, I don't have any blank spots.

wheee! · 11-30-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PW370z

As far as the bypass kit is concerned....I think the remote is the best option. You can just store it in the glove box or center console, and then you or your passenger can control the settings. It would be like a movable switch console and you don't have to change the interior.

I would be down for a kit using a remote (like the one you made for the GTR). I don't want to add any switches to the interior, and already have the foglight switch in the center console between the seat heaters.

The downside to this is the cost of the remote transmitter and receiver units. I see your point on this if you already filled the centre position on your console or have a convertible.

Perhaps there could be two options? One system with a switch and one with a remote! I personally do not like the idea of having to look for a remote to engage the NAV bypass or turn on the camera. Switch is better for me...

bdl99 · 11-30-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

The downside to this is the cost of the remote transmitter and receiver units. I see your point on this if you already filled the centre position on your console or have a convertible.

Perhaps there could be two options? One system with a switch and one with a remote! I personally do not like the idea of having to look for a remote to engage the NAV bypass or turn on the camera. Switch is better for me...

Actually the remote option wont add as much as you might think. But I can see both sides from a choice point of view. I will price out a kit with and without remote.

Osiris · 11-30-2010, 09:36 PM

I know the NAV bypass allows you to enter destinations while driving...is the NAV bypass also what allows you to play dvds while driving? Or is that something else? If so, than a 3rd button would be required.

PW370z · 12-01-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dixon cider

remote for me.

+1

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Originally Posted by bdl99

Actually the remote option wont add as much as you might think. But I can see both sides from a choice point of view. I will price out a kit with and without remote.

Just for clarification: the bypass for the camera is just to keep the camera on at all times (use like a rearview mirror), but when put in reverse, the back-up camera will always come on automatically still. Is this correct?

bdl99 · 11-30-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

Your image links are broken in your google doc by the way

Are the image links broken for anyone else? I've tried from several machines and it appears to be working.

Jeffblue · 11-30-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bdl99

Are the image links broken for anyone else? I've tried from several machines and it appears to be working.

yea they seem to be broken

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PW370z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 213 Drives: '12 6MT/Spt/Trng/Nav Rep Power: 16	As far as the bypass kit is concerned....I think the remote is the best option. You can just store it in the glove box or center console, and then you or your passenger can control the settings. It would be like a movable switch console and you don't have to change the interior. I would be down for a kit using a remote (like the one you made for the GTR). I don't want to add any switches to the interior, and already have the foglight switch in the center console between the seat heaters.