MDF spare encl- woofer upgrade

[reunited]

Yesterday I replaced the Pioneer shallow mount (SW-251) with an Alpine SWR-T10 in my MDF ring/spare tire enclosure.

I simply cannot believe the difference!

I know almost all of us who went the MDF ring way initially used the Pioneer so I thought you might be interested in what a difference the upgrade made. Be aware that the Alpine is an eighth inch deeper than the Pioneer.

The Alpine can be had for $250 from Sonic Electronix. Well worth the shekels.

Bill

[Wicked CAS]

Now imagine what the difference would be with a proper enclosure and a 13" slim JL sub.

[reunited]

JMHO, but a proper stealth (meaning undetectable) enclosure wouldn't have its butt sticking straight up in the air. (JK, I think...) I prefer not having a car that advertizes there is decent equipment inside ...

Also, given that the Z cabin volume is ONLY 51.6 cubic feet, or 48.6 cubic feet with driver, 45.6 with driver and passenger, don't you think that a 13" sub, even a shallow mount, might just be a tad too much output for someone that wants a bass level pretty much at the same level as the artist and/or sound engineer intended? Just how much do you want to overload the space given cabin gain? Oh, I forgot ...everbody rides around in NH in the winter with the windows down...

BTW, I used to live in Atkinson.

Bill

[Wicked CAS]

Originally Posted by reunited

JMHO, but a proper stealth (meaning undetectable) enclosure wouldn't have its butt sticking straight up in the air. (JK, I think...) I prefer not having a car that advertizes there is decent equipment inside ...

Also, given that the Z cabin volume is ONLY 51.6 cubic feet, or 48.6 cubic feet with driver, 45.6 with driver and passenger, don't you think that a 13" sub, even a shallow mount, might just be a tad too much output for someone that wants a bass level pretty much at the same level as the artist and/or sound engineer intended? Just how much do you want to overload the space given cabin gain? Oh, I forgot ...everbody rides around in NH in the winter with the windows down...

BTW, I used to live in Atkinson.

Bill

All depends on what you listen to. Having a 13" sub does not necessarily mean you are tryong to drone out the rest of the system, ot overpowering the sound with bass, that is why you have a or should have a Sub level control to be able to turn it down... You are trying to match the artusts recording, but it would depend on who the artist is as well... You definitely will get it pretty close with the 13TW5... 13Tw5 was designed to give you the responce of a 12" Sound quality Subwoofer... Not intended to sound like a 13" sub. Until you listen to one you can not make a judgement...

13TW5 is not made to sound like a 13" sub necessarily. Design is so you can get a slim sub without sacrificing sound quality. But it does take advantage of the surface area to push the air... It is a very fast moving motor structure and it will and can hit as hard as a 10" sub. It can produca a snappy hard hitting bass, the main characteristics of the sub is best descriibed as a cross between a 12w3v3 and an all mighty 12w6v2.