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Jeffblue 10-21-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123 (Post 776175)
here is the assy for the altima I would imagine connections are the same. Price acciording to here is like 419 usd

280 Audio & Visual :: Body Electrical :: Genuine Nissan Parts :: Altima Coupe Parts (CL32) 2008-2010 :: Nissan Parts, NISMO and Nissan Accessories - Courtesyparts.com
Frank

price seems to be the same for all of them, just a slightly different part number. they all start with 28442, they may all be the same. so look slike the parts themselves will cost about the 419, then its the software thats the other variable and how to implement it into the older nav versions or update our nav versions to the 2011. rep for finding that toner:tup:

so i'm thinking once these become available, maybe we could get a group buy price and save some money on the parts if we get them all from a dealer on here.

spryor 10-22-2010 09:17 AM

Hi Jeffblue,

I have a 2010 roadster and is interested in the 2011 rear view camera.

Thanks,

spryor

Jeffblue 10-22-2010 10:19 AM

who will get to 10 first, '09s or '10s ?

wheee! 10-22-2010 12:14 PM

Keep in mind the wiring harness for the 2010 and 2011 should be the same and that the harness for the 2009 is different and will therefore need another mod before this system will "plug and play". The screens are different resolutions and the pinouts are different.

Jeffblue 10-22-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 777041)
Keep in mind the wiring harness for the 2010 and 2011 should be the same and that the harness for the 2009 is different and will therefore need another mod before this system will "plug and play". The screens are different resolutions and the pinouts are different.

well actually, the 09's have a plug and play solution already. the NAVTOOL works for the 2009's as a plug and play unit. a few people on here have it already and its only like $300 something. however, it is not plug and play for the 2010, and it costs 500, and thats not including a camera or anyhting.

wheee! 10-22-2010 04:13 PM

I meant that the 2011 camera system will plug and play with the 2010 harness, not the 2009. Exactly for your reason, that the 2009 works with the third party developers system but not the 2010.

Jeffblue 10-23-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 777444)
I meant that the 2011 camera system will plug and play with the 2010 harness, not the 2009. Exactly for your reason, that the 2009 works with the third party developers system but not the 2010.

good to know. maybe this will turn out to be 2 group buys. one would before the navtool for the '09 guys and one would be for the 2010 unit from nissan.

nissan ned 10-23-2010 02:58 PM

Nissan Ned 2009, for sure I'm in.

pensfan3 10-23-2010 08:26 PM

I'm in on a 2009!

First post!!! Just bought the car yesterday. Drove over three hours from VA to PA just to get it.

youknow17 10-23-2010 08:32 PM

2010
 
Based on pricing, count me in on a 2010 compatible cam.

DeLRo 10-24-2010 05:48 PM

delro - 2010

Lemers 10-24-2010 06:07 PM

Based on price i'm in with 2010

djpathfinder 10-24-2010 06:20 PM

Interested. 2010.

N8GTOL 10-24-2010 08:39 PM

+1 for a 2010

Jeffblue 10-24-2010 09:24 PM

Updated.

Based on what DeLRo has shown in the other backup cam thread, it looks like this install might not even be too difficult.

tsolin01 10-24-2010 11:05 PM

+1 2010!

DeLRo 10-25-2010 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 779725)
Updated.

Based on what DeLRo has shown in the other backup cam thread, it looks like this install might not even be too difficult.

If everything goes well with my install next week I can go about seeing how difficult it is in getting a higher quantity of the correct plugs to make this work. Then it's just a matter of wiring up an adapter, install camera, etc...

If everyone agrees on something like this and if the cost/time to produce is reasonable I'll talk it over with the guy I'm working with and do what I can to help make this available to the forum. I'll also shoot AK a PM to see if I'd have to become a sponsor or not if everything were to work out.

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeLRo (Post 780068)
If everything goes well with my install next week I can go about seeing how difficult it is in getting a higher quantity of the correct plugs to make this work. Then it's just a matter of wiring up an adapter, install camera, etc...

If everyone agrees on something like this and if the cost/time to produce is reasonable I'll talk it over with the guy I'm working with and do what I can to help make this available to the forum. I'll also shoot AK a PM to see if I'd have to become a sponsor or not if everything were to work out.

awesome, so if the part your friend is making works, what would we actually need to buy from the dealer?

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 10:01 AM

the sooner we figure out what parts we need for each application (09 vs 10) , the sooner we can get moving on this :tup: Thanks much to DeLRo for taking an initiative on the install and fabrication of the new piece.

phelan 10-25-2010 11:01 AM

2009 interested here.

FuszNissan 10-25-2010 11:25 AM

I am still looking into a OEM accessory kit. A national tech should be getting back to me soon.

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 780319)
I am still looking into a OEM accessory kit. A national tech should be getting back to me soon.

thanks so much Lou, i got your PM and responded.

Juruki 10-25-2010 11:52 AM

add me on the 09 list plz!

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 11:59 AM

could someone with an '09 confirm whether or not this works with the '09 nav?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLRo (Post 780060)
Sorry for the late response Jeffblue. I didn't see the first time you asked. PontualZ is correct for the most part. Although I think you can do it with the starter in the ON position or with the engine running. Turn off your radio, hold down setting button and turn volume control counter-clockwise about 3-4 full turns until the screen changes. You will be taken to a diagnostics screen where you can access numerous features.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...-38-56_462.jpg

Here are the camera adjustments....
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...-39-11_885.jpg

Once you make changes just turn your radio back on and the system will reboot with the new settings.
If you turned the camera settings to on, then after you reboot and shift into reverse you will see this screen.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...-24-07_333.jpg

I'm currently working with someone who is assisting me in creating a harness to plug in without any mods to the current wiring. As soon as I test it I will get a DIY going and talk to the guy to see if he's interested in producing a few kits to make it easier on everyone. From the work I've seen it'll be as good as OEM with no additional drilling, wiring, or soldering. Just plug-n-play and quite possibly for 1/2 the $$$ from the factory. :excited:


DeLRo 10-25-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 780319)
I am still looking into a OEM accessory kit. A national tech should be getting back to me soon.

Lou, if it's easier to locate also check to see if you can just get the male female plugs/sockets for the M93: 24-way connector on the Nav screen and M202: 40 way on the A/V unit. That is the main item needed to make this work without cutting into the factory wiring.

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 04:03 PM

DeLRo, this vendor at the GTR forum seems to have fabricated something similar to what we need. i'm not sure if it would work for our cars but i commented on his thread. you seem to know a lot about this, maybe you could chime in over there.

Adrey@SpecializedPerf - Viewing Profile
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Rear View Camera Kits - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

bdl99 10-25-2010 05:28 PM

Hi Guys,

I made the discovery about the 2011 GT-R and posted the details on the GT-R forum HERE

I then made the kits available HERE and offered both a complete kit (with camera) and one with just the harness.

I've been contacted by a couple of 370Z owners (including DeLRo) and working with them we've established that the 370Z with Satnav is the same as the GT-R. There are some minor differences in the wiring but the same harness approach will work.

Let me know if you want some help either in creating a 370Z harness or just sharing how to do it.

Cheers,
Brian

UTpunkX 10-25-2010 06:10 PM

Definitely interested for my 2010.

bdl99 10-25-2010 06:29 PM

Perhaps someone with a 2009 model can help establish something.

With the GT-R (at least on the NA models) the NAV system was upgraded with higher resolution screen and switched to digital RGB rather than analog RGB on the 2011 model. It appears from researched to date that the 2010 370z with SatNav has the newer AV and Screen also and my harness approach will work.

Can someone with a 2009 model try the hidden menu (detailed above) and see if the camera option is present and if it is when the camera is enabled that the screen goes blue when the car is placed in reverse.

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdl99 (Post 781154)
Perhaps someone with a 2009 model can help establish something.

With the GT-R (at least on the NA models) the NAV system was upgraded with higher resolution screen and switched to digital RGB rather than analog RGB on the 2011 model. It appears from researched to date that the 2010 370z with SatNav has the newer AV and Screen also and my harness approach will work.

Can someone with a 2009 model try the hidden menu (detailed above) and see if the camera option is present and if it is when the camera is enabled that the screen goes blue when the car is placed in reverse.

hey Bdl, as far as i know, the '09s require an external device to trigger the screen switch when reverse is activated.

bdl99 10-25-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 781268)
hey Bdl, as far as i know, the '09s require an external device to trigger the screen switch when reverse is activated.

OK, thanks. So it sounds like the 370z '09s are like the GT-R '10s. I've been comparing wiring diagrams and I'm now 99.9% certain that I can create a harness for the 370z '10s with SatNav that will work like the kit I created for the 2011 GT-R with factory like install with moving guidelines etc etc.

Mize 10-25-2010 08:00 PM

Please add me for 2010 list.

LMBmikeZ 10-25-2010 08:25 PM

add me to the 2010 list! I have been wanting this from day one:driving:

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 09:30 PM

ok, so i have sent a PM to AK in order to figure out the logistics of doing this, but as it stands i have found a solution for our NAV backup camera's for both years.

Adrey, At Specialized Performance (a vendor at NAGTROC) sells a camera that works for the 2009 and 2010 370z, but they are two different units because of the udpated nav in 2010. Essentially the difference between the two units is that the '09 unit requires an additional part/switch in order to initialize the camera when the car goes into the reverse. as you can see baed on DeLRo's instructions, the 2010's do this by themselves once activated via the diagnostic mode. Anyways that leaves the '09s camera fix more expensive than the 2010's.

2010 unit is 495 normally, group buy price: $350

2009 unit is 825 normally, group buy price: $665

10 total committed would allow us to get the lowered pricing. (ie if 8 2010's and 2 2009's commit, everyone can get group buy pricing.)

committed=50%deposit.

As i understand the units are sold with a 1 year warranty

it may turn out that the NAVTOOL for the '09s might prove to be a less expensive option, in which case i will try and setup a group buy for you '09 guys.

I've been a member here for a while, and i want to get it out of the way right now. i am in no way trying to profit from this and i'm not trying to sell anything. i'm aware of the requirements for selling things on the forum and i'm aware that at the moment, I, nor Adrey@Specialize Performance are vendors. i'm just trying my best to arrange a way for all of us to get camera's like our cars should have come with in the first place. I have sent AK a message in order to go over how we can implement this group buy and who needs to become a vendor and whatnot in order to set it in motion. but anyways, that is the pricing, and these units will work.

anyways, that is where we stand right now. tomorrow i will call navtool to see the logistics of a group buy and see if it might be a cheaper alternative for the 2009 guys.

Mize 10-25-2010 09:34 PM

Any ideas on installation procedure?
(In either way)

djpathfinder 10-25-2010 09:36 PM

The group buy price for the 2010 is reasonable especially if it's plug and play, but holy smokes, look at the price for the 2009!

Red__Zed 10-25-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 781450)
ok, so i have sent a PM to AK in order to figure out the logistics of doing this, but as it stands i have found a solution for our NAV backup camera's for both years.

Adrey, At Specialized Performance (a vendor at NAGTROC) sells a camera that works for the 2009 and 2010 370z, but they are two different units because of the udpated nav in 2010. Essentially the difference between the two units is that the '09 unit requires an additional part/switch in order to initialize the camera when the car goes into the reverse. as you can see baed on DeLRo's instructions, the 2010's do this by themselves once activated via the diagnostic mode. Anyways that leaves the '09s camera fix more expensive than the 2010's.

2010 unit is 495 normally, group buy price: $350

2009 unit is 825 normally, group buy price: $665

10 total committed would allow us to get the lowered pricing. (ie if 8 2010's and 2 2009's commit, everyone can get group buy pricing.)

committed=50%deposit.

As i understand the units are sold with a 1 year warranty

it may turn out that the NAVTOOL for the '09s might prove to be a less expensive option, in which case i will try and setup a group buy for you '09 guys.

I've been a member here for a while, and i want to get it out of the way right now. i am in no way trying to profit from this and i'm not trying to sell anything. i'm aware of the requirements for selling things on the forum and i'm aware that at the moment, I, nor Adrey@Specialize Performance are vendors. i'm just trying my best to arrange a way for all of us to get camera's like our cars should have come with in the first place. I have sent AK a message in order to go over how we can implement this group buy and who needs to become a vendor and whatnot in order to set it in motion. but anyways, that is the pricing, and these units will work.

anyways, that is where we stand right now. tomorrow i will call navtool to see the logistics of a group buy and see if it might be a cheaper alternative for the 2009 guys.

I'd be interested if there was a cheaper option for the 09's

Jeffblue 10-25-2010 09:45 PM

This looks like a cheaper alternative for the '09 guys.
http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...amera-dvd.html
it involves the navtool, and there are a few DIY's on it. Since we have such a large number of people from each model year, we have enough for two group buys from two different sources, depending on what people want to go with. However, the only feasible solution for the 2010's is the GTR camera rig in this group buy. the '09s can use either this or the navtool. i will call navtool tomorrow to see what we can work out.

Specialized 10-25-2010 09:45 PM

Guys, I have just become a member and are a authorized vendor. We have been selling these rear camera kits for GTRS over 2+ years, and also have sold some for the 370z customers. We unlike others trying to sell, are a legitimate company that will provide full customer service 24/7 and provide a full 1 yr full warranty on all our products with a no questions asked replacement policy. We offer and have in stock both kits. One for the 2009, and the other for the 2010+. Below are a few pictures that one of out customers with a 2009 model 370z sent to us.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/...7cf3fd4ed9.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1152/...b9f0ae54_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/...c71006db_z.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1418/...5b7cd79b_z.jpg

N8GTOL 10-25-2010 10:39 PM

Specialized - are your kits for the 2010 plug-n-play? any pictures of the 2010 system with guidelines working? If not perhaps you can post or email a pdf instruction manual.


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