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Unclemeaty 09-12-2010 07:02 PM

Wheel buttons - Getting the Axxess ASWC working - All buttons
 
Can this get a sticky please?

I finally got my Axxess ASWC module to work on my 2009 Base / Sport 6sp. All steering wheel buttons operate my head unit. With Auto-Programming I only getting the vol+ and vol- working, and nothing with the other buttons. The problem wasnt with the pioneer, but with the Axxess's inability to grab control of all the steering wheel wires/buttons. With some TLC and carful monitoring, I found on my car that auto-programming (volume + button) as instructed did not allow the Axxess to find one vehicle wires connected. What happens here is one of the two steering wheel wires is for the Volume controls, and the other wire is for seek and source buttons. I noticed this through monitoring the LED flashes after programming.


To get past this and get the Axxess fully working with my 370z, I had to manually assign each button; one at a time. I did not have to use resistors or anything, just carefull reading of about 20 steps.

First, you must wire the Axxess ASWC per instructions for Nissan 370z. Here are the 370z's instructions:

http://documents.victorytechnologies...icle/10973.pdf

Second, re-program all the wheel buttong manually following instructions starting on Page 8 where it says "*If the ASWC has been in a vehicle before"
through Page 10 of this pdf:

*Note - You need access to the unit's reset button to manually program.
http://www.axxessinterface.com/pdf/I...Web_number.pdf

That did it for me!!

370z wiring reference:
Resistance Type Control System YES
Reference Ground Wire Color LIGHT GREEN
Reference Ground Polarity (-)
Reference Ground Location RADIO HARNESS
Reference Ground Pin # 15
Control Wire 1 Wire Color PINK
Control Wire 1 Polarity (-)
Control Wire 1 Location RADIO HARNESS
Control Wire 1 Pin # 6
Control Wire 2 Wire Color BLUE
Control Wire 2 Polarity (-)
Control Wire 2 Location RADIO HARNESS
Control Wire 2 Pin # 16


Much thanks goes to Metra for their emailings (Useless) and members on this forum for being a bit more helpfull.

kenchan 09-12-2010 07:43 PM

Good job. Hope they make this an automatic programming device as advertised soon. I'm still not sold on it and will continue to use PAC.

DeEePiDDy 09-12-2010 08:31 PM

Nice job. I will be doing my install this weekend and the steering wheel unit was what had me the most worried.

TreeSemdyZee 09-12-2010 09:37 PM

Glad you got it working.

Oddly enough, when I installed my DNX8120, the auto-programming worked fine. When I switched to the DNX9960, I had to do some manual programming also. Never could figure out why, but the manual programming was relatively easy.

bigaudiofanat 10-03-2010 10:59 AM

Quick question I am working on a touring model 370z. I have done the manual on the metra before but it does not seem to work on the touring auto setup gets volume buy hats all. Triple checked the wiring still no luck. Any ideas touring owners?

I am thinking it could be a bad unit but not sure yet.

jayl 10-04-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 748527)
Quick question I am working on a touring model 370z. I have done the manual on the metra before but it does not seem to work on the touring auto setup gets volume buy hats all. Triple checked the wiring still no luck. Any ideas touring owners?

I am thinking it could be a bad unit but not sure yet.

same for me. If you figure it out please let me know what you end up doing.

bigaudiofanat 10-04-2010 04:58 PM

Will do

Unclemeaty 10-05-2010 07:49 AM

Big,

Did you try doing the procedure from pages 8 thru 10 of this document?

http://www.axxessinterface.com/pdf/I...Web_number.pdf

Falcor 10-21-2010 12:18 PM

This worked perfectly for me. Thanks for writing it. My volume buttons work but sometimes theres a delay or I have to push the button long for it to work.

BTW this shoulb be a sticky. If the PAC-SWI is why not this one?

jayl 11-17-2010 11:33 AM

I finally got this to work!! it was so easy... Every time i had tried i did not do the manual programming for the HU, only did the Car detection piece and tried the auto for the HU programming.

Last night did both manual programming and it was very easy to get working.

chops 12-04-2010 01:13 AM

question to those who got this working. with my pioneer x920bt i cannot get the up and down buttons to program preset up/down. when i use these buttons all i get is tuner up/down and seek up/down if i hold the buttons. is this a limitation of the axxess?

torpedo2k 01-09-2011 04:08 PM

Cant say enough good things about this product.
Auto detect only got the volume working. Did the manual program and it was up and running in only a couple of minutes.
:tup:

crash1369 01-09-2011 09:11 PM

has anybody gotten the phone buttons on the wheel to work though?

fonZie 03-17-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash1369 (Post 887951)
has anybody gotten the phone buttons on the wheel to work though?

Bump

crash1369 03-17-2011 09:49 AM

They told me that they should work, and since they don't I need to pull it all apart again and verify all the connections and check the resistance. Supposedly even the slightest bit of noise in the circuit could cause them not to work.

They didn't sound very confident in their answers though and I didn't want to be bothered pulling all that **** apart again so I left it alone. All the other buttons work, I'm not sure the phone buttons can work.

When I hooked up the radio I was having trouble with the blue tooth as well, turns out the phone was still connected connect to the OEM stuff. I'm not sure but it looks like Nissan used a separate blue tooth adapter rather then one integrated into the radio, that of course is based on the fact that it still showed up as available, and was connected, after the OEM radio was removed. Although it doesn't show up anymore, but my suspicion is phone buttons may go directly to that unit in which case I don't think the adapter would work. My guess is since the blue tooth is no longer hooked to anything now, and nothing is trying to connect to it that it doesn't get activated and that's why I don't see it anymore. I haven't tried pushing the buttons to see if I can get it to come up again, I was pretty fed up with the whole thing at the time and didn't really care.
Or I could be competently off base since most of this is just guessing anyway :bowrofl:

Spec Jay 06-07-2011 07:16 PM

Heres a quicktip, If you guys dont want to tap into the car side of the harness to wire it up you can peel back the wires twist tightly and shove them into the empty pin holes. theyre a tight fit so they wont come loose and if your like me and hate tapping into factory harnesses then you dont gotta do that either
oh yeah and you need your own wire for the black pin 15
ASWC - Car
blue/gray - blue
gray/red - pink
- black

mrwhipels 06-16-2011 07:26 PM

I hooked my aswc up to a pioneer avh-p4200. I have had the head unit working in my car for 3 months and I just decided to hook this steering wheel adapter up. I got through the install fine and hooked up the pink blue and black wire up to the car and grounded pin 15 to the same ground as the rest of my radio( I hope that is okay). I also hooked up the red wire from the aswc to the orange ignition wire. I programmed the unit manually and every thing worked fine. So I turn the car off put the dash back together. I go to turn the car back and the radio is going hay wire. I can't change sources and the radio will not stop on a station. My back up cam will not work. I tried resetting the radio and still nothing. I took the dash apart checked all my connections. I then took the aswc off and turned the radio back on everything works fine. So I hook the aswc up again everything works. Turn the car off and then back on same thing radio goes hay wire.

What do you guys think bad aswc? I was thinking of trying to hook up the red wire from the aswc to the red power wire on the radio. Thinking that it might need to be powered all the time so when I turn the radio off it doesn't loose power.

I am calling metra tomorrow to see if the can help.

Oh yea I have a base '10

MagnumPI 01-08-2012 02:13 AM

Weird setup. The instructions say to connect to pins #6 and #16. Pin #6 does not go to the HU if you are not wiring rear speakers. So I wired the rear speakers anyway. Too tired to fuss with it today after spending half a day ripping apart the interior and running amp and subwoofer wires. The Clarior CX 501 HU works along with the Sound Ordinance powered sub. I will see if it will work manually in the morning.....

MagnumPI 01-10-2012 04:00 AM

nope, gotta go back in and rewire. Pink and blue wires didn't seem to work...

RonRizz 01-15-2012 09:48 AM

Mine was a snap... except for the instructions provided by axxcess.......
2 wires plus power and ground....
It auto programmed itself, and is working perfectly since.
If I remember correctly, you have to press and hold the volume + on your wheel to get it to accept the unit...

MattP725 01-21-2012 09:16 PM

Anyone have success getting all functions working on a touring? Going to tackle this by weeks end.

370ZilverZ 03-21-2012 12:34 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Do not go by the wire colors to do this DIY unless you have the same stock HU. A base stereo does not use the same wire color to pin combo as a Bose system does. Follow the pin call outs and all should work just fine. On a bose system pin 6 is white, pin 15 is black and 16 is gray. No pink wire to splice to here. Make sure when you look at a connector illustration, that you know if it is the pin (terminal) side or the wire (harness) side you are refering to also.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1332351159
This post should get the phone controls working http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...rol-phone.html

AUtigers370z 04-27-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec Jay (Post 1157217)
oh yeah and you need your own wire for the black pin 15
ASWC - Car
blue/gray - blue
gray/red - pink
- black

These were the same colors for me as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370ZilverZ (Post 1612723)
Do not go by the wire colors to do this DIY unless you have the same stock HU. A base stereo does not use the same wire color to pin combo as a Bose system does. Follow the pin call outs and all should work just fine. On a bose system pin 6 is white, pin 15 is black and 16 is gray. No pink wire to splice to here. Make sure when you look at a connector illustration, that you know if it is the pin (terminal) side or the wire (harness) side you are refering to also.

The blue/pink/black wires were my 6/15/16 pins and I have a 2009 Touring w/ Bose. Overall, the ASWC was pretty easy to install. After reading through the instructions in the second link of the first post, I was able to manually set everything up. The diagnostic only had a long flash on the blue/gray wire and not the red/gray wire.. but everything works fine.

Huckleberry 04-30-2012 04:31 AM

good read.

JAYNO20 05-13-2012 04:46 PM

For step 5 connect pin 15 of vehicles harness to ground, does that mean cut the wire and ground it? Shouldn't it already be grounded since it IS a ground wire?

bigaudiofanat 05-13-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAYNO20 (Post 1718588)
For step 5 connect pin 15 of vehicles harness to ground, does that mean cut the wire and ground it? Shouldn't it already be grounded since it IS a ground wire?

Yes cut the wire and ground it. Through the stock head unit it was grounded however with the new head unit that pin does not go to anything.

adamant0203 05-13-2012 04:57 PM

Na you have to ground it. I just finished an install and had to get help to figure out why it wasn't recognizing controls. That wire does have to be grounded for the steering wheel controls to work.

11Thumper 05-20-2012 02:59 PM

I can't get this to work other than the volume +/- buttons. I got a Kenwood DVD HU and I verified the wire harness pin to pin. I tried the manual setup also. Any tips?

370ZilverZ 05-20-2012 04:23 PM

One problem of the ACCESS ASWC, is that if you have an old version that needs to be upgraded to work in your application, you either have to send it back to ACCESS and have them update the firmware or buy a $40 cable to be able to do it yourself.
I have a Kenwood DDX-719 and all steering functions work except for the phone pick-up and disconnect. Kenwood said that it will not work and there are no known plans to update the HU firmware to allow that function to work in the near future.

eastwest2300 06-13-2012 01:45 AM

This install sounds like its gonna be fun.

tjlazer 06-17-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1718608)
Yes cut the wire and ground it. Through the stock head unit it was grounded however with the new head unit that pin does not go to anything.

So you have to ground this wire on the vehicle side of the harness? Or can you ground it on the aftermarket harness? I noticed mine has two ground leads off the black ground wire.

bigaudiofanat 06-17-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1776171)
So you have to ground this wire on the vehicle side of the harness? Or can you ground it on the aftermarket harness? I noticed mine has two ground leads off the black ground wire.

It can be grounded at the same place your head unit is being grounded to.

The black wire in your metra harness is only for Subaru vehicles, in a nissan you have to make your own ground location.

tjlazer 06-17-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1776379)
It can be grounded at the same place your head unit is being grounded to.

The black wire in your metra harness is only for Subaru vehicles, in a nissan you have to make your own ground location.

Thanks, also do just tap into the red wire on my new harness from the Axxess harness?

nurseryboy 08-15-2012 05:47 PM

I'm only able to get the volume buttons working with my new KW-NT800HDT. I posted the full details in this post. Anyone have any suggestions?

11Thumper 08-16-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nurseryboy (Post 1870745)
I'm only able to get the volume buttons working with my new KW-NT800HDT. I posted the full details in this post. Anyone have any suggestions?

Same here. Tried multiple times. Very frustrating.

Dustyboy 10-22-2012 03:02 AM

I did the auto program function and only the volume buttons worked. The instruction booklet outlines how to program manually. Its a couple pages of drole instructions but only takes about 5 mins (if that) to complete. All buttons functioning now.

Dustyboy 10-23-2012 07:31 AM

I programmed it after installing the new HU, but before I put all the dash panels back on, that way I could pull out the black box unit and see the red lights as well as reset the device. I had the ignition on, and the radio going so I could see/hear the volume going up/down etc.

tjlazer 10-23-2012 02:45 PM

If you guys get random button pushes you will need to update the firmware of the black box. I just did that and all is working 100% now!

djpheer 11-14-2012 08:18 AM

Just an update for anyone intimidated by this install. Once it is all wired, the "manual programming" takes all of about 2 minutes. Just follow the step by step instructions that you can get from axxess the website. Don't worry, there are no specific instructions for 370zs. Just start by holding down the reset button for 10 seconds and follow the steps under manual programming. It's very simple.

Gizsmo0 11-28-2012 11:57 PM

Just to clarify the Car side plug number 15 has to be grounded since it doesn't go to anything on the metra plug grounding just on the aftermarket plug will not work the oem plug 15 also has to be grounded. This drove me crazy:icon14:


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